[kabar]

I go by Hatch's voting record and his ratings by respected conservative groups. Hatch is no RINO by any accepted measure. He is one of the more conservative members of Congress. That said, I agree he talks to much and is too civil to the Democrats.

[Bahbah]

he talks to much and is too civil to the Democrats.

Those really are his only failings, but he is a good man. I think the dems pushed him way too far this time. He has done so much to be accomodating, and this is how they treat him. He can't be happy.

[Mo1]

Oh I'm not calling Orin a RINO .. just taking a guess as to why some would

Like I said .. I like Orin .. but there are times he needs to just shut up

[mowkeka]

I go by Hatch's voting record and his ratings by respected conservative groups. Hatch is no RINO by any accepted measure. He is one of the more conservative members of Congress. That said, I agree he talks to much and is too civil to the Democrats. Civility is a virtue. There is a time to be civil and a time to kick butt. Now is the time to kick butt. Besides, I think we can all agree that Hatch is a million times better than that the other Mormon Senator.