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Terrorist: Bin Laden to set up caliphate state (with Zarqawi)
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Posted on 05/23/2005 10:24:15 AM PDT by jmc1969

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To: Zack Nguyen
As I understand Muslim theology, once a caliphate is set up, these leaders can declare a jihad to gain new geographical territory for Islam. Perhaps someone else more well-schooled could comment.

If he was acknowledged caliph then yes he could. If he could claim decent from Muhammad (not a requirement to be caliph from the Sunni perspective) then he could also be a legitimate Imam which would go along way in making him unquestionable throughout the Muslim world.

21 posted on 05/23/2005 11:28:21 AM PDT by Pelayo ("If there is hope... it lies in the quixotics." - Me)
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To: jmc1969

Sounds like a target rich environment.


22 posted on 05/23/2005 11:29:45 AM PDT by sportutegrl (Huh?)
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To: COBOL2Java
Could Congress now declare war on this caliphate?

That would literally be declaring war on Islam

23 posted on 05/23/2005 11:30:12 AM PDT by Pelayo ("If there is hope... it lies in the quixotics." - Me)
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To: jmc1969
"Although they accuse them of being terrorists, the heroes Osama bin Laden and Abu Musab Zarqawi will come back to the scene soon to set up an Islamic caliphate state,"

Otherwise known as Cave World.

24 posted on 05/23/2005 11:30:33 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: jmc1969

Good. Now all we need are the coordinates.


25 posted on 05/23/2005 11:37:13 AM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Pelayo

Yes, and how is this a bad thing? They have already declared war on us, we should just reciprocate...


26 posted on 05/23/2005 11:42:23 AM PDT by jonascord (What is better than the wind at 6 O'clock on the 600 yard line?)
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I am excited to see such a trial ballon run up by this arm of jihadic islam.

I beieve that islamic divisions of mainline Sunni and Shi'a arms will see this as the radical power grab that it is and start a turf war if such occurs.

27 posted on 05/23/2005 11:44:00 AM PDT by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free....)
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To: jmc1969
I wonder if they are going to Massachusetts to create their new state,

They can have Assachusettes as far as I'm concerned. In fact, I'll donate it.

28 posted on 05/23/2005 11:45:55 AM PDT by steve86
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To: jmc1969

Caliphornia ?


29 posted on 05/23/2005 11:46:38 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (Excrementum Occurum)
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Osama bin Laden and Abu Musab al-Zarqawi would soon set up a Muslim caliphate state.

ROTFLMAO

They better pick another planet, especially if it's while GWB is still in office.

They were only able to do this under Clintoon, he was too busy feeding his ego.

30 posted on 05/23/2005 12:21:00 PM PDT by Mister Baredog ((Minuteman at heart, couch potato in reality))
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To: jonascord

Did I say it was a bad thing?


31 posted on 05/23/2005 12:28:04 PM PDT by Pelayo ("If there is hope... it lies in the quixotics." - Me)
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To: Pelayo
it's well past due to declare war on Islam.

they've already declared war on Christianity and Judaism. let's follow their fine example.
32 posted on 05/23/2005 12:29:04 PM PDT by inn8
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To: jmc1969
Okay, I'll wait for a more reliable source (if there is such a thing).

At the present only the JP and News 24 is going with this story.

33 posted on 05/23/2005 12:54:19 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Right Angler

yay! they'll be close enough for me to gain my reward for capture/ death of them.


34 posted on 05/23/2005 12:56:42 PM PDT by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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To: BearWash

Isn't it enought that we Asses already virtually gave them the property to build the biggest mosque in the US of A?
Can we at least get an exemption for The Cape? They can have Hyanusport, Eggheadtown, and Nanshmuket!


35 posted on 05/23/2005 1:00:38 PM PDT by acapesket (never had a vote count in all my years here)
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To: Pelayo

Not quite.

A Caliphate would be illegitimate in the eyes of all Shi'ites (possibly pushing Iran into alliance with us, particularly if Sistani continues to get a good deal from us and the 'caliph' continues the traditional Sunni animus against Shi'ites), and any Sunni whose local imam issued a fatwa declaring the purported caliph to be illegitimate would likewise be pushed to our side by the declaration.

It would, however, be prudent to have all our ducks in a row with a lot of Islamic scholarly opinion weighing in that OBL isn't really Caliph before declaring war on him, since any Muslim who regarded him as Caliph would regard such a declaration as a declaration of war on Islam.


36 posted on 05/23/2005 2:59:07 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (Christ is Risen! Christos Anesti! Khristos Voskrese! Al-Masih Qam! Hristos a Inviat!)
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To: jmc1969

I bet they think it will be in Jerusalem.


37 posted on 05/23/2005 3:06:58 PM PDT by kalee
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To: jmc1969

Step one: Get the terrorists all together.

Step two: Drop the big 'un on 'em.

Step three: Fight Kerry, Kennedy and Schumer's Caliphate foreign aid package.


38 posted on 05/23/2005 3:11:13 PM PDT by righttackle44 (The most dangerous weapon in the world is a Marine with his rifle and the American people behind him)
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An alleged terrorist on trial for a conspiracy targeting the U.S. and Israeli embassies claimed Monday that terror masterminds Osama bin Laden and Abu Musab al-Zarqawi would soon set up a Muslim caliphate state

First, a statement...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

OBL and Abu are too busy running to sit still, much less set up any kind of whatever the heck these raggoons worship....

39 posted on 05/23/2005 5:23:24 PM PDT by dirtbiker (Solution for Terrorism: Nuke 'em 'till they glow, then shoot 'em in the dark!)
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