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To: Condor51; tahiti
With all due respect, the basic flaw in your premise is that driving is not a Constitutional Right, but a privilege

Driving is neither a privilege nor a Constitutional right...

It is my natural, inalienable right to take my private property (car) where I choose and in any manner I choose down any public thoroughfare (road) since roads are public property and I AM a member of the 'public'.

Any attempt to deny or impede this right to travel is ILLEGAL since it is a *deprivation of rights under color of law* US Code Title 18, section 242.

Tickets for speeding, lack of seat belts, etc are nothing more than for generating revenue for the state in the guise of 'public safety'

Without the benefit of a jury trial, tickets are nothing more that *bills of attainer* which are prohibited by the Constitution:

(vote-smart.org)
Bill of Attainer -
A legislative act that declares the guilt of an individual and doles out punishment without a judicial trial. The state legislatures and Congress are forbidden by Article 1, sections 9 and 10 of the Constitution to pass such acts. This is an important ingredient of the separation of powers.

15 posted on 05/24/2005 6:40:25 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am NOT a *legal entity* ..... nor am I a 'person' as defined and/or created by law!)
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To: MamaTexan
***Driving is neither a privilege nor a Constitutional right...It is my natural, inalienable right to take my private property (car) where I choose and in any manner I choose down any public thoroughfare (road) since roads are public property and I AM a member of the 'public'.****

Mama (may I call you mama?), an "inalienable right"? That's absurd and you know it (or you're pulling my chain). Under your argument there's no reason to deny an Illegal alien a DL. In fact, under your argument, you or they don't even need one.

As to the roads being 'public property', uh not exactly. All Interstates 'belong' to the Federal gubmint, along with all 'US' highways and the state routes belong to the state and the county roads to the county, etc, etc, etc. Your logic here treats roads like public parks, which by the way ALSO have regulations as in; This Park Closes At Dusk. And you can't get more 'public' than a Park. Libraries are also 'public' and they have rules and regulations too (I think?).

Bottom line - again - Driving is a privilege GRANTED to those who qualify, by the laws of the various states. And for that matter so is the purchase of a car/truck/van/suv/motorcycle/scooter i.e.; anything with an engine or motor. It's that Commerce Clause thingy in the U.S. Constitution.

33 posted on 05/24/2005 12:59:35 PM PDT by Condor51 (Leftists are moral and intellectual parasites - Standing Wolf)
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