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Wal Mart's Exploitive Practices Attacked By Website
Wake Up Wal-Mart ^

Posted on 05/26/2005 6:27:37 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued

Because of Wal-Mart's inadequate wages and benefits, Wal-Mart employees are eligible for $2.5 billion in Federal assistance, which comes from your tax dollars.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: dujerks; gowalmart; ihateamerika; marxistidiots; nutjobs; populistmorons; rejoiceinwalmart; socialistcons; wallyhaters; walmart; walmartsucks; youshoptheretoo
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To: Aliska
Like Ed Dames? I won't hold that against you :-). Most of it is things that make you go crazy in the night to me.

Ed Dames, so far, his prophecies have proven to be wrong. Everytime he comes on, I roll my eyes. MK Ultra, I don't deny that it exists but it seems there has been a lot of side stories spun about it to where it does sound rediculous. It's like a lot of "New World Order" stories where the stories are concocted in a Rube Goldberg fashion to where everything is entertwined and appears to work and fall into place until you change one small part of the equation and it falls apart. I do believe there is a New World Order that does exist, heck, most of the free traders buy into the ideals behind it but I see them more as a consensus of the movers and shakers in world finance, government and think tanks. So collusion of the world's ultra rich and powerful, yes, I believe that, but where it does go overboard are the stories of black helicopters, The Free Masons (my grandfather was one and I'm certainly not in the loop) and so on. Put it another way, it is like a gaggle of people who want to go back to the divine rights of kings without the titles of nobility and just ride the backs of us "untermenschen." Boil it down even further, it is just a power and/or preservation by these elites and nothing more and free trade and things like NAFTA and CAFTA play into that. As to UFO's and weird technology, I generally believe there are something there, there are powers in this universe that we are just beginning to understand so there your mileage may vary. I know there can be exaggerations there too but I'll file them in the "things that make you go 'hmmmm' file."

Getting back to Earth again, all I can say is that it is easier to look down on others not as fortunate as they and just say, "live with it" or "go watch Oprah." I can't stand Oprah and Jerry Springer is worse.

Maybe I ought to do a photo essay and perhaps talk to people on how the decline of industry has affected them here in Pittsburgh, maybe I could be the next Jack London, David Graham Phillips or Upton Sinclair, (noted muckrakers) it's worth a shot. B-)
751 posted on 05/31/2005 12:31:11 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Lutheran, Conservative, Neo-Victorian/Edwardian, Michael Savage in '08! - DeCAFTA-nate CAFTA!)
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To: Mrs.Nooseman

read post 744!!


752 posted on 05/31/2005 12:32:28 PM PDT by bfree (PC is BS)
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To: Mrs.Nooseman

You got it! That site was just a union thing. They will do anything to try to get into a business. They put our biggest employer out of business in our community with all of their demands.


753 posted on 05/31/2005 12:32:34 PM PDT by Goodgirlinred ( GoodGirlInRed Four More Years!!!!!)
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To: Aliska
The gubmint cooks their figures just like everybody else who can get away with it.

It's like my 90 year old grandmother says, "they put out what they want you to hear and spin the figures the way they want to."
754 posted on 05/31/2005 12:34:31 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Lutheran, Conservative, Neo-Victorian/Edwardian, Michael Savage in '08! - DeCAFTA-nate CAFTA!)
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To: jb6

What are the Mexicans producing that they can trade with us? What money is going into Mexico besides the money that legal and illegal immigrants are sending home?


755 posted on 05/31/2005 12:34:59 PM PDT by Goodgirlinred ( GoodGirlInRed Four More Years!!!!!)
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To: Goodgirlinred

The Mexican economy got hit hard by China. They lost a on of jobs.


756 posted on 05/31/2005 12:35:49 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: Goodgirlinred
Thanks!

I agree with you on everything you said!

We all have our own choices to make on where we want to work and where we want to shop!

I would not be working for WALMART if I wasn't treated right and I certainly wouldn't shop there if I had a bad experience with the store!

I had bad experiences in both of our two Super centers and I have never gone back!

If I can't find what I need at the store I am working at,I'll buy it somewhere else.

The way I look at it is ,that WALMART employees contribute to the local economy by buying things in other stores that WALMART doesn't carry !And what is wrong with that?
757 posted on 05/31/2005 12:37:56 PM PDT by Mrs.Nooseman
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To: flada

ROFLMAO!!!


758 posted on 05/31/2005 12:39:54 PM PDT by Mrs.Nooseman
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To: Conservative til I die

you said "Feel free not to work there or shop there. Otherwise, it's none of your business how they operate their business, as long as it's legal."

I would normally agree with you. But they are using our tax money to supplement their low wages in order to keep their employees healthy and housed. When somebody is using my money (taxes) in order to get out of their obligations then I have a problem. I am very interested in how my tax money is spent. End the entitlement programs for both individuals AND businesses.


759 posted on 05/31/2005 12:40:40 PM PDT by arizonaconservative
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To: durasell
Well as long as it works!

No problem at all!

I think stores will be obsolete in the future anyway,since you can purchase just about anything over the Internet now a days!

Just a thought!
760 posted on 05/31/2005 12:42:25 PM PDT by Mrs.Nooseman
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To: arizonaconservative

If you did that many of the small towns would drain like bath tubs or sink into some new kind of ghetto chaos.


761 posted on 05/31/2005 12:43:41 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: Mrs.Nooseman

The Wal-Mart model can't last indefinitely. Sooner or later the suppliers -- particularly the Chinese suppliers -- are going to move to sell directly to the consumer.

Want an MP3 player for $25.00? Come and get it.


762 posted on 05/31/2005 12:45:42 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: bfree

Well that explains a lot!


763 posted on 05/31/2005 12:45:50 PM PDT by Mrs.Nooseman
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To: Goodgirlinred
They [unions] put our biggest employer out of business in our community with all of their demands.

I grew up in northern Minnesota iron mining country, and watched the unions drive the cost of US iron ore to astronomical amounts. I never could figure out why the janitor at the local highschool made about $8/hour while the union janitors at the iron range were making more than double that (this was back in the early '80s, btw).

My family was dirt poor, my father only making about $18K salary with the local phone company. We lived in a trailer out in the woods with no indoor plumbing, no electricity, and no running water. We had an outhouse and had to bring 10 gallon containers of water from a pump at a municipal park in town.

Fortunately for me, my father never asked for any government handouts and instilled in me a sense of self-responsibility so that I've been able to elevate from poorness. (See my post #400 for more details if interested)

Then I have liberal socialist wackos on this forum (Aliska) who tell me that I've always had everything given to me. That I haven't had to work the way she had to work. That I can't understand how it is for poor people. Apparently she has a capacity for compassion that the rest of us just can't comprehend. Well, I have plenty of compassion for those who earn it.

Anyway, I've gotten off on a rant...

764 posted on 05/31/2005 12:47:17 PM PDT by flada (Y2K? What are you selling, chicken or sex jelly?)
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To: Goodgirlinred

Yep.

Well it happened in Canada as well!

When the Employees at one WALMART there, decided to unionize and WALMART tried to work things out with the Union, they were forced to close that store,because after WALMART gave them the little finger they reached for the whole hand!

Don't the people that are pro unions realize that the prices are going up when the unions move in?


765 posted on 05/31/2005 12:50:10 PM PDT by Mrs.Nooseman
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To: flada

Before I got into my rant, my point was supposed to be that not only have unions driven companies out of business; but entire industries.


766 posted on 05/31/2005 12:51:08 PM PDT by flada (Y2K? What are you selling, chicken or sex jelly?)
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To: durasell

I don't know. There are a lot of costs associated with direct-to-consumer sales that could dissuade them from doing things like that. Another major hurdle is that I think most consumers are willing to trade cost for convenience--I think most consumers are willing to pay an extra fee--5 or 10% or what have you--in order to do all of their shopping in one place. Who wants to sit on the Internet all day ordering 50 different items from 50 different websites and wait a week (or longer, from overseas) pay shipping costs associated with 50 different stores (because remember, I'm not buying in one place if I'm buying direct from the manufacturer) when I can drive down the street to Wal-Mart and buy all the stuff I need today and in an hour?

I'm not saying that it isn't possible, but I also think that it is by no means probable. There are a LOT of hurdles.


767 posted on 05/31/2005 12:51:08 PM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: durasell

I agree!

Nothing lasts for ever anyway,but as long as it lasts I intend to make the best of it!


768 posted on 05/31/2005 12:52:41 PM PDT by Mrs.Nooseman
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To: Publius Valerius

That's assuming that it'll be online. China is a communist gov't with a ton of U.S. greenbacks. They could open a warehouse store tomorrow that would blow wal-mart, target and costco out of the water.


769 posted on 05/31/2005 12:54:13 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: flada

Hey no need to apologize for your rant!

I know exactly where you are coming from!


770 posted on 05/31/2005 12:55:55 PM PDT by Mrs.Nooseman
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To: Mrs.Nooseman

Stores provide two things internet sales never will be able to:
Tactile testing, a lot of products you want to feel it before you buy it, we've all seen some really nice looking incredibly uncomfortable chairs in our time.
Instant gratification, when making fun purchases getting it home immediately just adds to the fun, and when making necessary purchases you frequently need it now not in a week or two.

Those two factors will make sure brick and mortar never become a sideline in retail. The internet will continue to take away from in store purchases for a while, but eventually it will level out, and I think brick and mortar will keep over 50% of retail.


771 posted on 05/31/2005 12:56:41 PM PDT by discostu (quis custodiet ipsos custodes)
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To: discostu

Well you have a point there!

Only time will tell what the future has in stock for us!


772 posted on 05/31/2005 12:58:16 PM PDT by Mrs.Nooseman
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To: discostu

Imagine three large warehouse stores situated up and down the California coast. I mean big suckers, like the structures where they assemble airplanes.

Now, imagine t-shirts for 50-cents, jeans for $10.00. MP3 players for $25.00 and complete dining room sets for a $150.00. Those kinds of prices.

How far would people drive to get to such a store?


773 posted on 05/31/2005 12:59:48 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: arizonaconservative
I would normally agree with you. But they are using our tax money to supplement their low wages in order to keep their employees healthy and housed.

Check out post #626. If only all government spending were this profitable!!

774 posted on 05/31/2005 12:59:57 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (If you agree with Karl Marx, the AFL-CIO and E.P.I. please stop calling yourself a conservative!!)
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To: durasell
I really don't think that they could, frankly, because they would have to have the expertise to match Wal-Mart's distribution system. Wal-Mart gets its low prices in part because it pressures suppliers, but its distribution system, especially in the beginning of the company, was a major reason for its low prices.

A manufacturer's expertise is in manufacturing, not distributing. Vertical integration isn't always better. If it were, we'd all be shopping at Johnson & Johnson stores or whatever by now.

Like I said, I'm not saying it's impossible, but I think that there are big league hurdles to its implementation. I certainly think it could not be done--profitably--"tomorrow."
775 posted on 05/31/2005 1:02:54 PM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: Publius Valerius

Just remember, we're not talking about a company like Johnson & Johnson, we're talking about a country that has people/cheap labor coming out of its ears.


776 posted on 05/31/2005 1:05:39 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: arizonaconservative; All

Like I said before,WALMART employees are taxpayers ,too!

What really gets me ,is that everyone is complaining that working,tax paying people qualify for government programs ,when we handout those same funds to illegal immigrants that don't contribute anything to those programs!

You can't have it both ways!


777 posted on 05/31/2005 1:08:36 PM PDT by Mrs.Nooseman
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To: durasell
That's fine, but it would have to have the expertise to match the distribution system of, say, Wal-Mart, which it doesn't if it's a manufacturer. And query as to why it would want to invest that kind of capital in such a risky venture when it can continue to make a lot of money simply by selling to Wal-Mart. The profits really wouldn't be that much better than what they would be by selling to a distributer, so why take the risk? How do you justify that to your shareholders? Or a government ownership group?
778 posted on 05/31/2005 1:09:36 PM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: Mrs.Nooseman

I think most people here would agree that they don't want it both ways, they want it one way.

I'll go out on a limb and say that nobody really objects to emergency hand outs for citizens. Nobody wants to see kids dying for lack of medical care, etc. etc.

On the other hand, the hand outs shouldn't be an on-going lifestyle thing.


779 posted on 05/31/2005 1:11:28 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: Publius Valerius

Can't answer your questions, but it would seem the next logical stop for China Inc.


780 posted on 05/31/2005 1:13:08 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: Publius Valerius

Moreover, convenience is still an issue for consumers. Unless these companies model themselves in a Japanese-style where a company like Mitsubishi makes everything from airplanes to television sets, which may or may not be the best idea right now, you STILL have a problem with one-stop shopping--and when you are trying to compete on price, not brand, that's tough.

Why do I want to stop at 6 warehouses when I can stop at one store to do all of my shopping?


781 posted on 05/31/2005 1:14:23 PM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: ReadyNow

My Wal-Mart is clean and the clerks seem courteous and happy. It's not Neiman Marcus, but probably pays about the same.

Gov't regs are the main reason they have so many part-time workers.

Also, a lot of small companies keep their staff below 50, even though they need and could afford more workers, because if you employ over 50, you get into a whole differant ball park re gov't regs.


782 posted on 05/31/2005 1:14:39 PM PDT by altura
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To: durasell

I agree!

I only would accept a helping hand ,if I really needed it and as soon as the need disappeared ,I would refuse any further help!

Maybe that is just me and I hope the need will never arise!


783 posted on 05/31/2005 1:21:12 PM PDT by Mrs.Nooseman
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To: Toddsterpatriot

So I take it that you accept everything the Fed states as God's honest truth? If you think the Fed is telling you the truth on inflation, well it is, after it takes out everything from the equation that is volitile or inflationary. Funny how all my bills have gone up an average of 5-10%, cable up $5 to $94, home phone up $3 to $35, insurance up $40 to almost $400. Heating, though that was nice: up 25% two years in a row. Gas, up but we all know that. Food, up about 10%. The best one is grad school, tuition this year (public university) went up a mild 90%. Sure inflation is nothing but 2%, sure.


784 posted on 05/31/2005 1:22:24 PM PDT by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: Mrs.Nooseman

I have to go to work.

But let me say, there are an increasing number of people addicted to that helping hand -- both employees and employers. And it's a situation that can't be sustained forever.


785 posted on 05/31/2005 1:23:35 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: durasell

Agreed!


786 posted on 05/31/2005 1:24:26 PM PDT by Mrs.Nooseman
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To: Aliska

Oh, bfree is all about the dictating. Note the bandwidth sheriff's badge he puts on. The other thing the Free Traitors love to do, is instantly scream socialist at anyone who questions the logic of giving it all away to a communist dictatoriship, never mind that they are the Chinese enablers. This way they've got you on the defensive and do not have to deal with your issues. The Free Traitor version of yelling "racist".


787 posted on 05/31/2005 1:25:35 PM PDT by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: bfree
To: Aliska

I'm beginning to se why your son doesn't talk to you very much.

737 posted on 05/31/2005 12:05:13 PM PDT by bfree (PC is BS)

You cross a lot of lines there buddy and you don't live up to your name, at least not when it comes to others, to whom you seem to enjoy dictating.

788 posted on 05/31/2005 1:27:14 PM PDT by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: jb6

I see public education is still wasting taxpayers money.


789 posted on 05/31/2005 1:29:54 PM PDT by bfree (PC is BS)
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To: bfree
I see public education is still wasting taxpayers money.

Been looking in mirrors for epiphanies again?

790 posted on 05/31/2005 1:30:42 PM PDT by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: Goodgirlinred

Mexico was the center for outsourcing until China drained them. Even now, a lot of US companies still go there: that's the sucking sound of NAFTA.


791 posted on 05/31/2005 1:32:22 PM PDT by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: jb6

Nope. just reading your views.


792 posted on 05/31/2005 1:33:40 PM PDT by bfree (PC is BS)
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To: durasell

But those aren't internet stores, those are brick and mortar, which entails a lot of costs. And those kind of super discount warehouses exist everywhere, they're often called "dirtmalls" and people do drive from all over for them, of course most of the stuff is complete junk that will break when you toss it in your trunk for the drive home, but the people come anyway.


793 posted on 05/31/2005 1:45:02 PM PDT by discostu (quis custodiet ipsos custodes)
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To: arizonaconservative
do you have figures on what all the other employees at all other retail places that pay minimum wage are being subsidized in government money? Probably not due to the fact that only walmart is under scrutiny. Take a look at any mall. Do you think the employees at the Gap or at Borders or at Bath and Body works working the registers make that much more than minimum wage? What about Target? Don't hear much about that, now do you? Why don't all of you who are throwing rocks at Walmart for their horrible wages go take a poll at other retail stores and find out what their starting pay is. Maybe...just maybe you might then see the light.
794 posted on 05/31/2005 2:03:57 PM PDT by Rushgrrl (~brought to you from the illegal-rich state of California~)
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To: jb6
So I take it that you accept everything the Fed states as God's honest truth?

You'll have to remind me, where did I say that? Post # please.

If you think the Fed is telling you the truth on inflation, well it is, after it takes out everything from the equation that is volitile or inflationary. Funny how all my bills have gone up an average of 5-10%, cable up $5 to $94, home phone up $3 to $35, insurance up $40 to almost $400.

What I find funny is that protectionists who often don't know how to add or multiply believe that their personal experience is a more accurate indicator of inflation than a room full of computers and PhDs in Washington can come up with.

Heating, though that was nice: up 25% two years in a row.

That's terrible, how much of your income did you spend on heating? You think it had the same impact on my friends in California and Florida that it did on you?

Gas, up but we all know that. Food, up about 10%.

How much did you spend on gas and food? And what orifice did you pull that 10% increase out of, or could you have a real link?

The best one is grad school, tuition this year (public university) went up a mild 90%. Sure inflation is nothing but 2%, sure.

Wow, a few public school students paid more for tuition, that must mean inflation for the entire country is 90%?

Your cute little stories are very interesting, now how about some facts? Feel free to get private sector info, it exists you know. Wouldn't want those government numbers to screw you up.

Still waiting for your salary link. Wouldn't want everyone to think you're making stuff up.

795 posted on 05/31/2005 2:04:25 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (If you agree with Karl Marx, the AFL-CIO and E.P.I. please stop calling yourself a conservative!!)
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To: Betaille
'People resent the capitalist system because it leads to inequality, but they don't realize that it's the capitalist system that allows us to live on what we deem a "living wage" in the first place.'

Is it not amazing how the word "poor" is bandied about on these anti-Walmar-t threads?

The Term "Poor" brings up such horrid images of scarecrow-like waifs begging for food.

Poor in Bangladesh means their is a better than average chance you will die of starvation.

Poor in the USA means you can only afford to buy an old secondhand Xbox instead of the new Xbox 360.

796 posted on 05/31/2005 2:04:55 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg ("`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.' `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'")
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To: Mad Dawgg

You are absolutely correct!

I don't consider myself poor and neither do my kids!

The value everything they have and don't ask for much!


797 posted on 05/31/2005 2:09:07 PM PDT by Mrs.Nooseman
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To: Toddsterpatriot

I was wondering when the olde Free Traitor mantra of protectionist was going to come out. Demanding fair and equal trade is not protectionism, but it will cut into the profits of certain Free Traitors.


798 posted on 05/31/2005 2:13:06 PM PDT by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: jb6
Looked all thru post #795 and don't see the word protectionist. So, what the hell are you talking about?

Perhaps a remedial reading class is in your future?

799 posted on 05/31/2005 2:21:37 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (If you agree with Karl Marx, the AFL-CIO and E.P.I. please stop calling yourself a conservative!!)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

He's in college, so he must know. LOL!!! Getting his head filled by leftwing professors. My favorite phrase of his is calling people traitors who disagree with his nonsense.


800 posted on 05/31/2005 2:28:55 PM PDT by bfree (PC is BS)
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