Skip to comments.Wal Mart's Exploitive Practices Attacked By Website
Posted on 05/26/2005 6:27:37 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued
Because of Wal-Mart's inadequate wages and benefits, Wal-Mart employees are eligible for $2.5 billion in Federal assistance, which comes from your tax dollars.
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You got it! That site was just a union thing. They will do anything to try to get into a business. They put our biggest employer out of business in our community with all of their demands.
What are the Mexicans producing that they can trade with us? What money is going into Mexico besides the money that legal and illegal immigrants are sending home?
The Mexican economy got hit hard by China. They lost a on of jobs.
you said "Feel free not to work there or shop there. Otherwise, it's none of your business how they operate their business, as long as it's legal."
I would normally agree with you. But they are using our tax money to supplement their low wages in order to keep their employees healthy and housed. When somebody is using my money (taxes) in order to get out of their obligations then I have a problem. I am very interested in how my tax money is spent. End the entitlement programs for both individuals AND businesses.
If you did that many of the small towns would drain like bath tubs or sink into some new kind of ghetto chaos.
The Wal-Mart model can't last indefinitely. Sooner or later the suppliers -- particularly the Chinese suppliers -- are going to move to sell directly to the consumer.
Want an MP3 player for $25.00? Come and get it.
Well that explains a lot!
I grew up in northern Minnesota iron mining country, and watched the unions drive the cost of US iron ore to astronomical amounts. I never could figure out why the janitor at the local highschool made about $8/hour while the union janitors at the iron range were making more than double that (this was back in the early '80s, btw).
My family was dirt poor, my father only making about $18K salary with the local phone company. We lived in a trailer out in the woods with no indoor plumbing, no electricity, and no running water. We had an outhouse and had to bring 10 gallon containers of water from a pump at a municipal park in town.
Fortunately for me, my father never asked for any government handouts and instilled in me a sense of self-responsibility so that I've been able to elevate from poorness. (See my post #400 for more details if interested)
Then I have liberal socialist wackos on this forum (Aliska) who tell me that I've always had everything given to me. That I haven't had to work the way she had to work. That I can't understand how it is for poor people. Apparently she has a capacity for compassion that the rest of us just can't comprehend. Well, I have plenty of compassion for those who earn it.
Anyway, I've gotten off on a rant...
Well it happened in Canada as well!
When the Employees at one WALMART there, decided to unionize and WALMART tried to work things out with the Union, they were forced to close that store,because after WALMART gave them the little finger they reached for the whole hand!
Don't the people that are pro unions realize that the prices are going up when the unions move in?
Before I got into my rant, my point was supposed to be that not only have unions driven companies out of business; but entire industries.
I don't know. There are a lot of costs associated with direct-to-consumer sales that could dissuade them from doing things like that. Another major hurdle is that I think most consumers are willing to trade cost for convenience--I think most consumers are willing to pay an extra fee--5 or 10% or what have you--in order to do all of their shopping in one place. Who wants to sit on the Internet all day ordering 50 different items from 50 different websites and wait a week (or longer, from overseas) pay shipping costs associated with 50 different stores (because remember, I'm not buying in one place if I'm buying direct from the manufacturer) when I can drive down the street to Wal-Mart and buy all the stuff I need today and in an hour?
I'm not saying that it isn't possible, but I also think that it is by no means probable. There are a LOT of hurdles.
Nothing lasts for ever anyway,but as long as it lasts I intend to make the best of it!
That's assuming that it'll be online. China is a communist gov't with a ton of U.S. greenbacks. They could open a warehouse store tomorrow that would blow wal-mart, target and costco out of the water.
Hey no need to apologize for your rant!
I know exactly where you are coming from!
Stores provide two things internet sales never will be able to:
Tactile testing, a lot of products you want to feel it before you buy it, we've all seen some really nice looking incredibly uncomfortable chairs in our time.
Instant gratification, when making fun purchases getting it home immediately just adds to the fun, and when making necessary purchases you frequently need it now not in a week or two.
Those two factors will make sure brick and mortar never become a sideline in retail. The internet will continue to take away from in store purchases for a while, but eventually it will level out, and I think brick and mortar will keep over 50% of retail.
Well you have a point there!
Only time will tell what the future has in stock for us!
Imagine three large warehouse stores situated up and down the California coast. I mean big suckers, like the structures where they assemble airplanes.
Now, imagine t-shirts for 50-cents, jeans for $10.00. MP3 players for $25.00 and complete dining room sets for a $150.00. Those kinds of prices.
How far would people drive to get to such a store?
Check out post #626. If only all government spending were this profitable!!
Just remember, we're not talking about a company like Johnson & Johnson, we're talking about a country that has people/cheap labor coming out of its ears.
Like I said before,WALMART employees are taxpayers ,too!
What really gets me ,is that everyone is complaining that working,tax paying people qualify for government programs ,when we handout those same funds to illegal immigrants that don't contribute anything to those programs!
You can't have it both ways!
I think most people here would agree that they don't want it both ways, they want it one way.
I'll go out on a limb and say that nobody really objects to emergency hand outs for citizens. Nobody wants to see kids dying for lack of medical care, etc. etc.
On the other hand, the hand outs shouldn't be an on-going lifestyle thing.
Can't answer your questions, but it would seem the next logical stop for China Inc.
Moreover, convenience is still an issue for consumers. Unless these companies model themselves in a Japanese-style where a company like Mitsubishi makes everything from airplanes to television sets, which may or may not be the best idea right now, you STILL have a problem with one-stop shopping--and when you are trying to compete on price, not brand, that's tough.
Why do I want to stop at 6 warehouses when I can stop at one store to do all of my shopping?
My Wal-Mart is clean and the clerks seem courteous and happy. It's not Neiman Marcus, but probably pays about the same.
Gov't regs are the main reason they have so many part-time workers.
Also, a lot of small companies keep their staff below 50, even though they need and could afford more workers, because if you employ over 50, you get into a whole differant ball park re gov't regs.
I only would accept a helping hand ,if I really needed it and as soon as the need disappeared ,I would refuse any further help!
Maybe that is just me and I hope the need will never arise!
So I take it that you accept everything the Fed states as God's honest truth? If you think the Fed is telling you the truth on inflation, well it is, after it takes out everything from the equation that is volitile or inflationary. Funny how all my bills have gone up an average of 5-10%, cable up $5 to $94, home phone up $3 to $35, insurance up $40 to almost $400. Heating, though that was nice: up 25% two years in a row. Gas, up but we all know that. Food, up about 10%. The best one is grad school, tuition this year (public university) went up a mild 90%. Sure inflation is nothing but 2%, sure.
I have to go to work.
But let me say, there are an increasing number of people addicted to that helping hand -- both employees and employers. And it's a situation that can't be sustained forever.
Oh, bfree is all about the dictating. Note the bandwidth sheriff's badge he puts on. The other thing the Free Traitors love to do, is instantly scream socialist at anyone who questions the logic of giving it all away to a communist dictatoriship, never mind that they are the Chinese enablers. This way they've got you on the defensive and do not have to deal with your issues. The Free Traitor version of yelling "racist".
I'm beginning to se why your son doesn't talk to you very much.
737 posted on 05/31/2005 12:05:13 PM PDT by bfree (PC is BS)
You cross a lot of lines there buddy and you don't live up to your name, at least not when it comes to others, to whom you seem to enjoy dictating.
I see public education is still wasting taxpayers money.
Been looking in mirrors for epiphanies again?
Mexico was the center for outsourcing until China drained them. Even now, a lot of US companies still go there: that's the sucking sound of NAFTA.
Nope. just reading your views.
But those aren't internet stores, those are brick and mortar, which entails a lot of costs. And those kind of super discount warehouses exist everywhere, they're often called "dirtmalls" and people do drive from all over for them, of course most of the stuff is complete junk that will break when you toss it in your trunk for the drive home, but the people come anyway.
You'll have to remind me, where did I say that? Post # please.
If you think the Fed is telling you the truth on inflation, well it is, after it takes out everything from the equation that is volitile or inflationary. Funny how all my bills have gone up an average of 5-10%, cable up $5 to $94, home phone up $3 to $35, insurance up $40 to almost $400.
What I find funny is that protectionists who often don't know how to add or multiply believe that their personal experience is a more accurate indicator of inflation than a room full of computers and PhDs in Washington can come up with.
Heating, though that was nice: up 25% two years in a row.
That's terrible, how much of your income did you spend on heating? You think it had the same impact on my friends in California and Florida that it did on you?
Gas, up but we all know that. Food, up about 10%.
How much did you spend on gas and food? And what orifice did you pull that 10% increase out of, or could you have a real link?
The best one is grad school, tuition this year (public university) went up a mild 90%. Sure inflation is nothing but 2%, sure.
Wow, a few public school students paid more for tuition, that must mean inflation for the entire country is 90%?
Your cute little stories are very interesting, now how about some facts? Feel free to get private sector info, it exists you know. Wouldn't want those government numbers to screw you up.
Still waiting for your salary link. Wouldn't want everyone to think you're making stuff up.
Is it not amazing how the word "poor" is bandied about on these anti-Walmar-t threads?
The Term "Poor" brings up such horrid images of scarecrow-like waifs begging for food.
Poor in Bangladesh means their is a better than average chance you will die of starvation.
Poor in the USA means you can only afford to buy an old secondhand Xbox instead of the new Xbox 360.
You are absolutely correct!
I don't consider myself poor and neither do my kids!
The value everything they have and don't ask for much!
I was wondering when the olde Free Traitor mantra of protectionist was going to come out. Demanding fair and equal trade is not protectionism, but it will cut into the profits of certain Free Traitors.
Perhaps a remedial reading class is in your future?
He's in college, so he must know. LOL!!! Getting his head filled by leftwing professors. My favorite phrase of his is calling people traitors who disagree with his nonsense.