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To: stands2reason
Most people who start small businesses afford their employees some kind of group health insurance. In times past, they paid their male workers enough money to support their families in a lot of cases unless they were total scrooges. Today that is far more difficult, but if I owned a business and jetted off to Cancun while my employees were back home doing my slop work and never able to take a vacation eqivalent to mine, I would feel guilty. Some of these people do not have the money to go home when their aging parents are sick and dying. I would have a hard time as an employer watching that.

As to wanting it that way; i.e., socialist, liberalism, communism, fascism, I do not. I prefer not to have any government-assistance programs, inluding federal payments to schools. I told you what I wanted. Wal Marts who pay a living wage without unions and employees who get health plans and prompt compensation for non-faked injuries on the job.

As for myself, I do have mental health problems and get help paying for treatment which makes me feel shame but not crazy. I have to pay for all the medication myself except the portion my expensive medical insurance pays.

I qualify for SSI but have never taken it because I would have to spend down any assets I have first. I prefer to keep my assets as that makes me feel a little better about myself but not much. As to pulling myself up by the bootstraps, I am 63 years old, so it is a little late for that, but I'm still working on some ideas to make me feel more like a contributing member of society and not a useless eater.

533 posted on 05/28/2005 4:47:44 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: Aliska
As to pulling myself up by the bootstraps, I am 63 years old, so it is a little late for that, but I'm still working on some ideas to make me feel more like a contributing member of society and not a useless eater.

It is good that you speak up.

536 posted on 05/28/2005 4:54:55 PM PDT by A. Pole (Mandarin Meng-tzu: "The duty of the ruler is to ensure the prosperous livelihood of his subjects.")
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To: Aliska
but if I owned a business and jetted off to Cancun while my employees were back home doing my slop work and never able to take a vacation eqivalent to mine, I would feel guilty

This is totally absurd. It is hard to argue with twisted logic like this.

537 posted on 05/28/2005 4:55:25 PM PDT by bfree (Liberals are evil)
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To: Aliska
Most people who start small businesses afford their employees some kind of group health insurance.

When they can afford to employ people. After they have scrimped to get their business running. And what does that have to do with my post anyway?

if I owned a business and jetted off to Cancun while my employees were back home doing my slop work and never able to take a vacation eqivalent to mine, I would feel guilty.

BWhy should the employee, who didn't take those risks, get the same rewards as the employer who created the job?

Why would an employer bother to take those risks if he didn't get any reward?

Besides, you wouldn't own a business because you don't have the initiative to do so. You know it would be more trouble than complaining on the 'net. You want others to go out and take the trouble for you and create jobs for you to support yourself in the way you think you deserve, and they should be happy to do that with whatever profit you think is fair.

Now, that, my dear, is elitism.

547 posted on 05/28/2005 5:26:01 PM PDT by stands2reason (It's 2005, and two wrongs still don't make a right.)
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To: Aliska
Most people who start small businesses afford their employees some kind of group health insurance.

You are totally in left field if you believe this - and have obviously never been a small business owner.

568 posted on 05/28/2005 6:30:07 PM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: Aliska

" As for myself, I do have mental health problems"

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That explains a lot.

"Rick, I'm shocked, shocked, you hear me. Shocked to discover that gambling is going on here!"
-Claude Rains in "Casablanca"


614 posted on 05/29/2005 9:55:50 AM PDT by Chef Dajuan (Its a pork fat thing!)
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