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To: Mrs.Nooseman
If you are happy working at Wal Mart, I don't have a particular quarrel with you other than you keep harping on what it does for you and not how it affects other human beings, some halfway around the planet.

I have a hard time believing that Wal Mart is your sole-source of income for your entire family. You must have something else going for you on the side.

It is not my intention to put you down; I'm looking at the bigger picture and seeing what your company is doing to other American jobs and Chinese slave labor and how they broke their pledge and how they treat their American suppliers because of their hegemony in the retail market. They don't ask their suppliers for a quote. They tell them what they are going to pay them. That's bully tactics in my book.

OK, now granted that Wal Mart employees contribute to the tax revenues. A lot more would be contributed to the tax revenues were it not for higher-paying American jobs that are gone forever because manufacturing is declining and going overseas. Do you ever think about things like that?

Do you ever think that a lot of our industrial base has gone overseas and our national defense and troops are threatened because we have to order a lot of the spare parts from China?

Ah yes, unions again. I didn't read every word on their website, but I did read they want a living wage for workers and a minimum wage of $7.15. I certainly don't agree with all of their agenda, especially it's all Bush's fault, but I do not hate unions across the board and never have had anything much to do with them. My ex husband belonged to one . I never paid much attention one way or another. He certainly got good pay and regular wage increases. His new wife works at Wal Mart as a greeter. Even THAT is not the reason I don't like Wal Mart.

I don't like it that Wal Mart is open 24/7. That means some people have to work on their sabbath and at night when the store is practically empty. For the life of me, I don't see why Wal Mart is so greedy to work people like that.

I don't like Wal Mart. Period. I don't like the atmosphere being in that huge place. It has no aesthetic merits whatsoever, strictly utilitarian and functional. I'm not talking marble floors. The place is row after row of ugly. I don't know how people can stand being trapped in there for a full shift.

If I find any people that work at Wal Mart and can ask without being too nosy, I'll do exactly that.

I don't feel sorry for you if you are happy. I feel sorry for people who are not making it working for Wal Mart and other places like them. I feel sorry for the jobs Wal Mart took by driving local businesses out of business when they come to town because they can't compete.

Now please direct your Wal Mart rah rah to another poster. If you can think outside of your box long enough to comment on how other people are affected, I would have more respect for you, even if I might disagree with you.

You do get some credit for not calling me the worst kind of epithets short of profanity you will find on this forum. It must be your Wal Mart training to be nice to the customers or you were brought up to be more polite. In any case, you do seem a little steamed up about it all.

I hope your CEO's are starting to wake up to the fact that not everybody loves them. I would even accuse you of being a Wal Mart shill, but I see you signed up in February, and I don't think we had talked about Wal Mart to this extent, just in passing, before this thread.

695 posted on 05/31/2005 10:57:09 AM PDT by Aliska
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To: Aliska
A lot more would be contributed to the tax revenues were it not for higher-paying American jobs that are gone forever because manufacturing is declining and going overseas.

If higher paying jobs were being replaced by lower paying jobs how do you explain this graph?


699 posted on 05/31/2005 11:02:39 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Everything should be made simple, because otherwise we'll confuse Paul.)
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To: Aliska
If you can think outside of your box long enough to comment on how other people are affected, I would have more respect for you, even if I might disagree with you.

Not everyone is as miserable as you seem to be. BTW, some people like working the nightshifts, is that bad in your eyes also. It really is simple, if you don't like Walmart-don't go there. Some people like Walmart and I truly don't understand why you think only your opinion of how things should work is the only one that counts.

703 posted on 05/31/2005 11:09:21 AM PDT by bfree (Liberals are evil)
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To: Aliska
I don't like it that Wal Mart is open 24/7. That means some people have to work on their sabbath and at night when the store is practically empty. For the life of me, I don't see why Wal Mart is so greedy to work people like that.

It might just have to do with the fact that some people actually find it helpful to be able to shop then. I don't believe that Wal Mart is being "greedy" because if it wasn't cost-effective to stay open, they wouldn't!!!! I have a friend who works the night shift at a Wal Mart - she actually asked for that shift - it fits into her lifestyle - imagine that!

704 posted on 05/31/2005 11:15:06 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org • Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: Aliska
Actually it is not my WALMART training to be nice to people it is the way I was raised!

Since you don't know me I resent the remark that I must have something else going for me on the side!What exactly are you trying to imply?

I am the sole supporter for my family and We are making it just fine.I don't buy fancy things,my kids don't have every new gadget or the most expensive clothes!

The Mom and Pop stores in my area still exist and as a matter of fact, they come to WALMART to buy the Merchandise they sell at their stores!

I haven't seen any businesses closing when WALMART moved in, in our area ,in fact they have learned to adapt and become more competitive in the market place!

How can you possibly blame WALMART for all the ills in the world?

There are a lot more things and companies that contribute to the outsourcing of jobs and slave labor in China then WALMART!

BTW, the people in China and other places have to work too,to make a living!

How do we in the Western world know that Chinese consider working for a manufacturer as slavery!

If that is the case we are all slaves no matter where we work!

You are completely blinded by your hatred for WALMART and
it doesn't matter what I or anyone else says about some of the things you say,even if it proofs you wrong!

BTW, the thread has to do with how WALMART treats their employees,so I felt compelled to give everyone my side of the story!
712 posted on 05/31/2005 11:29:36 AM PDT by Mrs.Nooseman
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To: Mrs.Nooseman
You are so right on! My Wal-Mart is, I guess, a Super Center because it has a grocery store, hair salon, optician, and car service center. However, it has not lost that small town atmosphere. I see lots of people I know there and we stop to talk. I recently was helped in the toy department by an employee who just moved here in September from PA. She had family here and she loved our community. She used to work for Babies'R Us up in PA. She is very happy at Wal-Mart and was going to be a cashier starting the next week. She and I talked for quite a while during the time we tried to find the toy I was looking for.

I love that Wal-Mart. So do most of the folks that I know. People from every walk of life shop there.

And, no, they have not run any small businesses out of business as far as I know. We have plenty of small shops in town and 3 groceries stores and 4 pharmacies. Oh, yes, our Wal-Mart also has a pharmacy. Subway just moved into Wal-Mart, but we have another on the other side of town and a pizza place is in the same little plaza with Wal-Mart as well as 4 other fast food places. There is plenty of business for everyone.

As for people working on the Sabbath and 24 hours a day, other people have to work those shifts, too. Hospital workers, restaurants, retail stores, etc. That is what consumers demand now days.

I am glad you are standing up for your employer. So few people seem to want to do that these days.

The way I look at it, if you don't like where you work, find a job somewhere else. If you don't like a certain shopping place, find somewhere else to shop.
745 posted on 05/31/2005 12:24:35 PM PDT by Goodgirlinred ( GoodGirlInRed Four More Years!!!!!)
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To: Aliska

"I don't like it that Wal Mart is open 24/7. That means some people have to work on their sabbath and at night when the store is practically empty. For the life of me, I don't see why Wal Mart is so greedy to work people like that."

What about 7/11 or Denny's? Do you consider all 24 hour businesses equally evil?

"I don't like Wal Mart. Period. I don't like the atmosphere being in that huge place. It has no aesthetic merits whatsoever, strictly utilitarian and functional. I'm not talking marble floors. The place is row after row of ugly. I don't know how people can stand being trapped in there for a full shift."

So the crux of your position is that you can't handle it so now one else can. Nice.


991 posted on 06/03/2005 11:06:56 AM PDT by CSM ( If the government has taken your money, it has fulfilled its Social Security promises. (dufekin))
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