Posted on 05/27/2005 3:55:57 PM PDT by Hank Kerchief
As I said I have read it numerous times, I believe you have confused me with the person to whom I was responding.
LOL! That is one method I suppose. ;)
"Is there a brewery in Galt's Gulch?"
Yes, I'm running it.
"Atlas Shrugged" is all about how commies want to ruin civilization"
I'm willing to bet you've not read this book.
What, no cheap floozies???
The good part of the book is Rand's criticisms of the left. What she offers as an alternative is where she comes up short.
... and the Libertarians would allow Galt's Gulch to be overrun by an unlimited number of immigrants who would then vote in socialism.
Well, at least I'll give you an A for tenacity (to go along with your Fs in epistemology, logic and coherence).
"The good part of the book is Rand's criticisms of the left"
No, she treats the left and the right, as we know them, with equal disdain. Her main thrust in the book was about the evils of communism. What torques most conservatives about her work, is she went after the mystics, those who preach the word... the Jim Jones', the Tammy Fayes, and Jim Bakers.
Of course we all know Jim Jones was a good guy except for that little koolaid incident, and the Bakers were pretty good people if you over look a little corruption.
The other thing that seems to hit home is the laws issue, that there is no gain in ruling honest men, that the government must pass enough laws to make most of the population criminal in order to extort money from them.
"What she offers as an alternative is where she comes up short."
And just what does she offer as an alternative?
I still say YOU have not read this book.
Lurker
What torques most conservatives about her work, is she went after the mystics, those who preach the word... the Jim Jones', the Tammy Fayes, and Jim Bakers.
Being religious does not make one conservative, but then nor does being an atheist. Conservatives definitely have loyalty to things other than themselves. Their nations for example. Is loyalty to one's nation a quality appreciated by objectivists? It is by me.
And just what does she offer as an alternative?
Anarcho-syndicalism.
I do not think Ayn wanted to put industry under the control of labor, but I think she wanted to put the government under control and make the individual supreme in dealing with the government...wait where have I heard this before?
"Why do you think I haven't read it? Because I said it's about how commies want to ruin civilization?"
That's about it, I'm hard pressed to see how anyone could come to that conclusion after reading Atlas Shrugged.
"Conservatives definitely have loyalty to things other than themselves. Their nations for example."
Loyalty to their nation...how do you choose, is it the nation that was given to us, or the nation we have now, or the nation it will be in the future? It would seem that your loyalty at some point along this path would be considered betrayal.
So commies don't want to ruin civilization?
The commies had already ruined civilization so badly by the time that John Galt et. al. came on the scene that the current one was unrecoverable. The members of Galt's Gulch were destroying the old one to create a new one. The old one was inevitably going to destroy itself no matter what they did. The only question was "Should people hang on in a futile effort to preserve it, or take the best of the old and reboot the system?"
That's called defeatism. I'm not interested in such a pessimistic philosophy. I want conservatives to take this country back and undo the damage socialism has done to it. I do not expect them to join the communist cause of destroying it. Commies also believe in the "inevitability" of their predictions and that the old rotten civilization must be torn down before the new utopia can be created. That's just anarchist nonsense.
My guess is that technologically gifted supermen would find a way.
The closest answer is probably "Who was Eddie Willers?".
There where children in Galts Gulch.
Read the book (again).
Regards,
Rand's point was that John Galt and his fellows were well-rounded individuals who had the ability to handle any challenge.
Good humor is based in truth.
If you had read the book you know that Dagny not only CAN cook (and clean, etc.) but considered it a high honor - for thosed she loved.
Thus, no humor in the cartoon (IMHO).
Regards,
The only reason things break down quickly during garbage strikes is because the union thugs prevent, through sabotage, intimidation, and threats, anyone from doing the work that they are refusing to do.
They were all subjected to Galt's two hour long soliloquy and died of boredom.
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