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To: Claud
No non-military personnel, no women save those acompanying relatives, no prelates or laymen without permission. Again, emphatically NOT the language of a call for mass migration, but rather of pilgrimage and religious duty. Again, just to be clear, I really would have to read White's argument rather than responding half blind here. But the idea here (all too typically for modern historians), seems to miss the mark in a fundamental way by overemphasizing economic explanations in places where very different forces were at work (in this case, piety). It's clear to me at least that for Urban, the "overpopulation" argument was not a fundamental aspect of the Crusades but an attempt to head off the Franks' very natural objections to leaving their estates.

Thanks. That's what I was asking for. This is a lot clearer now. I'm sorry you had to make a trip all the way to France to get it. /sarcasm
64 posted on 05/31/2005 6:44:14 AM PDT by Antoninus (Benedictus qui venit in nomine Domini, Hosanna in excelsis!)
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Hey no problem. While there, I got everyone to surrender and vote against the EU Constitution. :)


67 posted on 05/31/2005 9:36:51 AM PDT by Claud
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