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Saudi investigates Christ posters
UPI ^ | May 29, 2005, 15:14 GMT | UPI

Posted on 05/30/2005 1:09:16 PM PDT by nmh

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To: Mad Dawg
Word on the street is the posters were autographed, and the Saudis take forgery VERY seriously.

LOL! =]

81 posted on 05/30/2005 4:11:03 PM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Leapfrog

"Anyone else for outlawing islam in the United States of America?"

You've got my vote for sure, any platform, anywhere!


82 posted on 05/30/2005 4:20:32 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: Leapfrog
>" Anyone else for outlawing islam in the United States of America?"

No. Try worldwide. It's the only way to end mad man moe's rabid dogs of death cult.

83 posted on 05/30/2005 4:47:49 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Man, You should have seen them, kickin Edgar Allen Poe! Koo Koo Kachoo)
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To: austinTparty
Geez, didn't you ever hear of Brian?

Brian: "You are all individuals! You must learn to think for yourselves!"
Crowd: "We are all individuals! We must learn to think for ourselves!"
Lone Guy: "I'm not!"
Other Guy: "Shut up!"

84 posted on 05/30/2005 5:21:13 PM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: pbrown

This is my first posting on Free Republic.

I am a traditional Roman Catholic layman.

I must state that your assumption that "ISLAM IS THE ANTICHRIST" is truly false, as the Dupont (1975) document below will elaborate. Mr. Dupont was responding to a 1975 article by a (now deceased) Mr. Bergin who posited that "COMMUNISM IS THE ANTICHRIST"

I assure you that the ANTICHRIST, a living demonically-possessed (actually, perfectly possessed by Lucifer) flesh-and-blood human being will appear on the world stage in the early-to-mid 2030s and will lead ISRAEL in the annhilation of her blood-thirsty enemies ready to (supposedly) destroy her from the face of the earth.

The age we are about to enter is the Age of the Blessed Virgin Mary and we are on the cusp of it, this is the immediate future (2005-2015 roughly). The period we are in will become increasingly more and more brutal, as people take their final positions for good (Traditional Roman Catholic Christianity via the Most Holy Rosary of Our Lady) versus all the other belief systems (all non-Catholic others entirely false[allow me not to comment presently upon the complexities of the Novus Ordo]) now present in the world. However, the nation of ISRAEL will survive until the very end stage of the world which will make the present Muslim cruelties look like child's play.

[Comment on the sad reality of future Muslim beheadings within the borders of the US: Yes, this probably will happen. Yes, people will be seized with terror. Yes, possibly 90-95% will apostatize (if they were traditionally Roman Catholic to begin with). However, keep in mind that Purgatory does exist and is quite a lot more excruciatingly painful than the 15-20 minutes it will take to endure the pain of a beheading, from which a traditional Roman Catholic will gain the crown of true martyrdom. This is the true explanation of such gross and brutal barbarities by the enemies of God - nothing that can happen to a corporeal body on earth even comes CLOSE to the fierce purgative pain of purgatory that each human soul has (de)merited to itself through its sins. After death, you have left the realm of God's mercy (earth) and now stand in the real of God's justice. This is the true explanation, not heard much anymore or anywhere. Purgatory exists, and has a real purpose)

The beginning of the Age of the Blessed Virgin Mary will commence with the consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary by the present Pope, Benedict XVI. That this will happen is correctly hinted at in the Papal Coat of Arms (St Corbinian's Bear). What happened to the country of Portugal in 1931 with the Act of Consecration of that country to the Immaculate Heart of Mary will oneday (after innumerable bloodshedings and multiple terroristic Islamic atrocies throughout what remains of Europe [see Yves Dupont Catholic Prophecies/The Coming Chastisement] will also one day happen to the country of Russia. One day the Immaculate Heart of the Blessed Virgin Mary will TRIUMPH and the world will one day become ENTIRELY traditionally Roman Catholic. Then, the ANTICHRIST makes his appearance at the death of the Great Monarch in JERUSALEM, the capitol of what remains of the world.

All the foregoing has been in traditional Roman Catholic prophecies for centuries.

Also this is directly related(conversion of Russia) to the six appearances of the Blessed Virgin Mary at Fatima Portugal in 1917.

I do beg all reading this to 1)Pray the Most Holy Rosary of Our Lady and all truth (and more importantly the Most Holy Will of Our Merciful Lord Jesus Christ) shall be shown to those who pray.

This is the main problem with the world today - they do not pray and have forsaken the sole true religious Faith : TRADITIONAL ROMAN CATHOLICISM http://www.dici.org http://www.sspx.org

I BEG ALL READING THIS TO CONVERT TO THE SOLE TRUE RELIGIOUS FAITH WITHIN WHICH ONE IS CAPABLE OF SAVING ONE'S SOUL: TRADITIONAL ROMAN CATHOLICISM.

OK thanks for reading this. I hope you find this article sobering and therefore salutary in a clarifying sense.

ANTICHRIST
by
Yves Dupont
(September, 1975)

Printed Form to ASCII Conversion
by
jmcnally@fred.net

INTRODUCTION

ROBERT BERGIN AND THE ANTICHRIST

Robert Bergin is the Editor of "FATIMA INTERNATIONAL". He
is a dedicated servant of Our Lady. I know him, and I have the
greatest respect for him. This article, therefore, must not be
construed as an "attack" on Robert Bergin ("attack" is a very
fashionable word these days), but simply as yet another attempt
to dispel the misgivings and confusion which his erroneous ideas
about the Antichrist are causing to many readers. I say "yet
another attempt" because I have written several times to him in
the past about this important matter, but to no avail.
Basically, as shown in the issue of July 30, 1974, of
"FATIMA, INTERNATIONAL" (Australian Edition), Robert Bergin
believes that Communism is the Antichrist; he seems to believe
also in a Millennium which, in his opinion, would be the Age of
Mary, and which he visualises after the fall of Antichrist. As
he himself says, all this is based on the prophecies of St.
Louis-Marie Grignion de Montfort; but, I would prefer to say, on
his interpretation of the prophecies of St. Louis de Montfort.
In upholding and spreading his opinions, Robert Bergin
completely disregards the hundred or so Saints and other holy
souls who are far more explicit than St. Louis, and the
interpretation of whose prophecies leaves no room for fantasies.
Ven. B. Holzhauser is one of these, and I have quoted many more
in my book "CATHOLIC PROPHECY". It is quite clear, from all
these prophecies, that Antichrist will come after the Age of
Peace. The Age of Peace, which will also be the Age of Mary,
will coincide with the reign of the Great Monarch which is to
follow immediately after the collapse of Communism.
Further, the Millennium theory has been condemned by the
Church. Doesn't R. Bergin know this? There may be a certain
period of peace between the fall of Antichrist and the Second
Coming of Christ, but it will not be a long one and cannot be
called a "Millennium".
Finally, quite apart from the hundred or so prophecies which
I have just mentioned, we have the comments of the Fathers of the
Church to guide us. Patristic writings are among the most
authoritative in the Catholic Church. What they say completely
nullifies Bergin's theories. Indeed, whilst Communism is a
system, Antichrist will be a person. And, whereas Communism is
materialistic and atheistic, Antichrist will be spiritualistic
and a believer in God. Yes, Antichrist will believe in God.
But, like Lucifer, he will rebel against God and, worse still, he
will proclaim himself to be God; His spirituality will be that of
the devil.
Last, but not least, Antichrist will not be a Russian
leading Soviet troops: he will be a Jew leading the Jewish
nation. Israel may still be a negligible power on the world
scene today, but by the end of the reign of the Great Monarch, it
will be very powerful indeed.
Israel, then, will accept Antichrist as the Messiah and will
rule over the whole world (or nearly) for a short time. Thus
will be fulfilled the Talmudic dream of world domination and One-
Worldism. Robert Bergin does not mention this; he ignores the
writings of the Fathers of the Church in order to adhere to his
theory which, it is worth repeating, is based solely on his
interpretation of the writings of one Saint.
I myself do not believe that St. Louis de Montfort meant
what Bergin says. But should it be so, we would do well to
remember that even Saints can err in the understanding of the
revelations which they receive. At any rate, it would be
extravagant to claim that St. Louis alone is right, whilst all
the other Saints and the Fathers are wrong!
I cannot see how Robert Bergin could continue to adhere to
his error if he had read the Fathers. This would be evidence of
a singular lack of objectivity. I prefer to think that he has
not read the Fathers so sure is he that St. Louis de Montfort,
his idol, is right, and that he, alone, possesses the whole
truth.
Let no one think that I use the word "idol" disparagingly:
St. Louis was a great Saint indeed. But it takes more than one
Saint to make a Heavenly Court; Robert Bergin seems to dismiss
all the other Saints, and he displays here the same weakness as
he does concerning the Marian apparitions other than those of
Fatima - which he mentions only cursorily.
To sum up:
1 - Communism will overcome the world for a short time.
2 - God will work a tremendous cosmic miracle to destroy
Communism,
3 - The reign of the Great Monarch will follow. It will be the
Age of Mary, a period of peace, prosperity, massive
conversions, and a wonderful flowering of religious
vocations.
4 - Antichrist will come shortly after the death of the Great
Monarch, Under his rule, the Jewish nation will overcome the
world for a few months, and the Communist persecutions of our
time will pale into insignificance in comparison with what
Israel will inflict on the world.
5 - Christ Himself will smite down Antichrist, but will not come
visibly.
6 - The Jews will be converted and, after a short period,
probably a few years, Christ will come down again and judge
the nations.
All the rest is wishful thinking. If this is not true, we
may as well make a bonfire of all the writings of the Saints;
nothing is sure any more and, if the Patristic writings are all
wrong in this respect, they may also be wrong in their
interpretation of Catholic Doctrine. So a bonfire is the obvious
answer - with the exception (of course) of St. Louis-Marie
Grignion de Montfort!

"Fatima indicates clearly that the Empire of the Antichrist
is world Communism."
(Robert Bergin, in `Fatima International', Feb. 25th, 1975)

A FEW QUESTIONS TO ROBERT BERGIN
(See also the "Postscript" at the end of this booklet.)

1. Does Communism teach that there is a God? (See par. 50 in
this booklet.)
2. Is Communism a `Preacher of religion'? (See par. 59.)
3. Has any Soviet leader said that he was the Son of God -
the Messiah sent by God? (Par. 3, 7, 8, 22, 28, 33, 50, 52,
54, 55, 59, 60.)
4. Does Communism `seek to gather together' the dispersed Jewish
nation? (See par. 7, 27, 50, 55, 59.)
5. Do you think it likely that a Communist leader will rebuild
the Jewish Temple in order to be adored as God? (See
paragraphs 2, 3, 4, 8, 22, 27, 30, 33, 52.)
6. When Communists rule the world, do you think they will shift
their capital city from Moscow to Jerusalem? (See paragraphs
12, 29, 38.)
7. Do you still think now that Communism is Antichrist?

INDEX
(The numbers refer to paragraphs, not pages)

1. Antichrist will be a man, not just a system or regime. (7,
50)
2. He will be a Jew. (1, 3)
3. He will come from the Tribe of Dan. (29, 39, 25, 26, 50, 55,
57)
4. He will be born in the Middle East. (2, 3, 24, 55, 59)
5. His mother will be a harlot possessed by the devil. (3, 37,
50, 57, 59)
6. He will be conceived by a man, not by the devil. (51)
7. He will be possessed by the devil like his mother. (23, 31,
33, 37, 51, 52, 55, 60)
8. He will be familiar with all the magical arts. (60)
9. He will be a wonder child, endowed with great intelligence
and memory. (60)
10. He will be assisted by the devil throughout his life. (3)
11. He will be utterly wicked. (31)
12. He will claim to be the true Son of God the Messiah. (3, 7,
8, 12, 22, 28, 33, 50, 52, 54, 55, 59, 60)
13. The Jews will accept him as such. (7, 27, 50, 55, 59)
14. He will be made King of the Jewish Nation. (7)
15. He will re-build Jerusalem and make it a magnificent city.
(12)
16. Jerusalem will be the capital of the world. (12, 29, 38)

17. He will not be an atheist; he will believe in God. (50)
18. He will re-build the Temple of Jerusalem. (1, 3, 12, 38)
19. He will sit in the Temple to be adored as God. (2, 3, 4, 8,
22, 27, 30, 33, 52)
20. He will conquer the whole world. (3, 8, 12, 29, 50)
21. Those who accept him will bear his mark, or sign. (3, 8, 31,
32, 50, 55)
22. One-third of the conquered peoples will refuse to obey him.
(8, 31)
23. He will persecute and he will torture them with every
refinement of cruelty, and he will make sure that they do not
die so that the tortures may be prolonged. (28, 31, 53)
24. But God will not forsake the Faithful. (8, 9, 32)
25. Ireland will be spared the persecution of Antichrist. (40,
41, 42, 43)
16. He will rule the world for three and a half years. (3, 31,
32, 34)
17. He will work great wonders and deceive many. (2, 3, 8, 28,
38, 50, 51, 53, 55, 57)
28. He will be opposed by Henoch and Elias. (34, 35, 50, 51, 53,
55, 58)
29. He will put to death Henoch and Elias. (3, 53, 58, 60)
30. Henoch and Elias will come to life again on the third day,
and ascend into Heaven. (53, 58, 60)
31. He will say that they are sorcerers and that he can bring
them back to earth. (58, 59, 60)
32. He will rise in the air by his magical powers, but will be
almost immediately struck down by Saint Michael, and killed.
(39, 50, 52, 55, 58, 59, 60)
33. The Jews will finally accept Christ as the Messiah. (34, 60)
31. Some time will be given to the human race to do Penance
before the Last Judgment. (50, 51, 55)


ANTICHRIST

Antichrist will be a human being, a particular man, not a
system, a regime or an ideology. We know this for certain from
Scripture, from Patristic writings and also from private
revelations, although the latter, alone, would not constitute a
definite proof.

1. "Christ arose from among the Hebrews, and he (Antichrist)
will spring from among the Jews. Christ showed His flesh as a
Temple, and raised it up on the third day; and he, too, will
raise up again the Temple of stone in Jerusalem." (St.
Hippolytus)

2. "Antichrist, the son of perdition will be born in Corozain,
will be brought up in Bethsaida and shall begin to reign in
Capharnaum, according to what Our Lord Jesus said in the Gospel:
"Woe to thee Corozain ... woe to thee Bethsaida ... and thou
Capharnaum that art exalted up to heaven, thou shalt be thrust
down to hell. (Luke, 10:13) Antichrist shall work a thousand
prodigies on earth. He will make the blind see, the deaf hear,
the lame walk, the dead rise, so that even the Elect, if
possible, shall be deceived by his magical arts. Puffed up with
pride, Antichrist shall enter in triumph the city of Jerusalem
and will sit on a throne in the Temple to be adored as if he were
the Son of God. His heart being intoxicated with arrogance, he
will forget his being a mere man, and the son of a woman of the
tribe of Dan." (St. Zenobius)

3. "Antichrist will be born of Jewish parents, of the tribe of
Dan, but his mother will not be a virgin, as many believe. As
the Holy Ghost came into the heart of Mary, so will the devil
enter into the mother of Antichrist, and his diabolical power
will always support him. Babylon will be his birthplace, but he
will be reared and instructed in Bethsaida and Corozain. After
his education at the hands of malignant spirits he will go to
Jerusalem and place his seat in the Temple which he will have
restored. He will submit to the rite of circumcision, claiming
that he is the Son of the Omnipotent God. His first converts
will kings and princes. His influence will extend from sea to
sea, largely through force and persuasive eloquence. He will
perform many signs and great miracles. Those who believe in him
will be marked on the forehead with a sign. For three and a half
years he will hold sway and, at the end of that period, he will
put to death Henoch and Elias, who will have previously opposed
him by preaching the true faith. Shortly afterwards, Christ will
appear, and Antichrist will be killed by Michael the Archangel.
(Adso the Monk, 10th Century)

4. "And we beseech you, Brethren, by the coming of Our Lord
Jesus Christ and of our gathering together unto Him: that you may
not be easily moved from your sense, nor be terrified, neither by
spirit, nor by, word, nor by epistle as sent from us as if the
day of the Lord were at hand. Let no man deceive you by any
means, for unless there come a revolt first and the man of sin be
revealed, the son of perdition, who opposeth and is lifted above
all that is called God, or that is worshipped, so that he sitteth
in the Temple of God, shewing himself as if he were God." (2
Thess., 2:1-4)

5. These few passages suffice to show that Antichrist will be
indeed a man. They show also by way of implication that he will
not be an atheist for his claim of being God and the Son of God
is in itself an acknowledgment that God is not a mythical being
as the Communists assert. Further, he will gather together the
Jewish people - hardly what the Communists are endeavouring to
achieve. That anyone should say, write, and write again in spite
of all remonstrances, that Communism is Antichrist leaves one
baffled.

6. I now propose to present further evidence to show the
absurdity of such a contention. In each case I invite the
Reader to pause and ask himself if these passages fit Communism.

7. "In every respect that Deceiver seeks to make himself appear
like the Son of God. Christ is king of things celestial and
terrestrial, and Antichrist will be king upon earth. The Saviour
sent the Apostles unto all the nations, and he, in like manner
will send false apostles. Christ gathered together the dispersed
sheep, and he in like manner will gather together the dispersed
people of the Hebrews. Christ appeared in the form of man, and
he in like manner will come forth in the form of man."
(Hippolytus)

8. "This impious man ... will give orders that he himself shall
be worshipped as God. For he will say he is Christ, though he
will be His enemy. That he may be believed he will receive the
power of doing wonders, so that fire may descend from heaven, the
sun retire from its course and the image which he shall have set
up may speak. And by such prodigies he shall entice many to
worship him, and to receive his sign on their hands or foreheads.
And he who shall not worship him and receive his sign will die
with refined tortures. Thus he will destroy nearly two parts,
the third will flee into desolate solitudes. But he, frantic and
raging with implacable anger, will lead an army and besiege the
mountains to which the righteous shall have fled. And when they
shall see themselves besieged, they will implore the help of God
with a loud voices and God shall hear them, and shall send to
them a Deliverer ..." (Lactantius)

9. "But many who are hearers of Holy Scripture and have it in
their hands, and keep it in mind with understanding, will escape
his imposture. For they will see clearly through his insidious
appearance and his deceitful imposture, and will flee from his
hands and betake themselves to the mountains, and hide in the
caves of the earth; and they will seek after the Friend of man
with tears and a contrite heart: and He will deliver them out of
his toils, and with His right hand He will save those from his
snares who make their supplication to Him in a worthy and
righteous manner." (St. Hippolytus)

10. "Antichrist will teach that Christ was an impostor, and not
the real Son of God. (St. Hilary)

11. "Nero will again reappear on earth as a messenger and
forerunner of the Evil One who is coming for the devastation of
the earth and the overturning of the human race." (Lactantius)

12. "One day we asked St. Martin of Tours about the End of the
World, and he said that Nero and the Antichrist would come first.
Nero would subdue ten kings and rule in the countries of the
West. A persecution he was to impose would go so far as to
require the worship of heathen idols. Antichrist would first
seize the empires of the East; he would have Jerusalem as his
seat and imperial Capital. Both the city and its temple were to
be rebuilt by him. His persecution would require the denial of
Christ's divinity (he himself pretending to be Christ) and would
by law impose circumcision on all. Finally, Nero himself was to
perish at the hands of Antichrist. In this way, the whole
world and its peoples would be brought under his yoke, until, at
Christ's coming, the impious imposter would be overcome."
(Sulpicius Severus)

13. (Note 1). The reappearance of Nero does not mean the
resurrection of the actual Nero, but the rise of a man as wicked
as he or, perhaps, a man having the same name.

14. (Note 2). Antichrist's rule is to last until the Second
Coming of Christ. This cannot be Communism, but Communism, to be
sure, is in itself an attempt by the devil to destroy the Kingdom
of God. It may be useful to recall here the various "plans" (and
their partial failure) used by the devil to destroy Christianity,
which, every time, led him to try a new "plan".

15. Thus we first had the Reformation in the 16th Century at the
close of the 1000 years of peace within the Church. In a world
of believers such as it was then, the preaching of an atheistic
philosophy was unthinkable. The purpose of the devil was to
weaken and, possibly destroy the Catholic Church by substituting
a watered-down form of Christianity. He failed, for the Catholic
Church is still alive; but he did succeed in sowing seeds of
discord and division, and in promoting the philosophy of
Liberalism that came with Protestantism and gradually passed from
the religious field into the economic and political areas.

16. Liberalism was condemned by the Church; liberal Catholics
were warned and condemned by Gregory XVI and Pius IX in the 19th
century. Leo XIII re-affirmed the judgment of his predecessors
and specifically condemned the concept of a so-called "Christian
Democracy" (because Democracy is the political expression of
Liberalism, whilst Capitalism is its economic expression). But
the Modernists took up the torch of subversion and error, and St.
Pius X condemned them in the beginning of the 20th century.
Their ideas, however, continued to spread underground for about
5O years until their presence prompted Pius XII to issue his
Encyclical "Humani Generis". But when Pius XII died in 1958,
the new heretics, then known as "Progressives", succeeded in
infiltrating the Church at the highest levels. That is where we
stand in 1975. "Progressivism" is in fact, the religious
expression of Liberalism.

17. In the political area, Liberalism gave birth to Democracy.
This, I discussed in my little book "The Popes and Democracy".
In the economic field, we had Capitalism. Capitalism is based on
profit alone, not on the needs of man. True, no company or
corporation can be expected to work at a loss and, for that
reason, the profit motive is quite legitimate, nay, it is the
necessary incentive which Socialism destroys wherever it rises to
power, thus bringing about complete economic chaos. But, whilst
being an indispensable condition, the profit motive must not
override other considerations and, although quite justified to
increase the production of consumers' goods, it cannot condone
speculation on non-existing money created solely by book entries.
And this, I am afraid is the essence of Capitalism, as distinct
from Private enterprise. To be sure, when you destroy Private
Enterprise you destroy also private Capitalism but, contrary to
the simplistic solution of the Socialists, it is possible to
control Capitalism without destroying Private Enterprise.
This will be achieved when the Banks are denied the right to
issue non-existing money.

18. What are the other evils of Liberalism? In what manner did
the devil succeed in undermining our Christian civilisation when
he gave birth to the Reformation in the 16th century? A complete
answer would take many pages; let me just mention one example: by
virtue of the superiority of our Christian culture, it was just
and desirable that the peoples of the West should bring to
non-Christians the benefits of their knowledge. This is called
colonisation. However, since colonization had hardly begun when
the peoples of the West forsook their Christian philosophy,
colonisation, in many cases, became a sordid affair better known
as Colonialism. The coloured peoples were never won over to our
way of thinking because in their eyes, we were exploiters. Yet
we did give them employment, order, and a measure of prosperity.
At the same time, however, we fed them our deadly Liberal
concepts, and their elites, educated in our godless universities,
had only one aim in mind: to shake off the western yoke as
quickly as possible - and we taught them how. Such is the
inconsistency of Liberalism: it exploits out of sheer greed, but
it tells the exploited why they should shake off the yoke, and
how to do it! So decolonisation took place after World War II at
a quickening pace. But this did not assuage our former slaves;
it only encouraged them to become more demanding and more
militant since our Liberal philosophy is now their philosophy
too. Today, they do not hesitate to blackmail us and threaten
the very life of the Western Nations by denying them the petrol
which they need. And that is what our Liberalism has achieved.
Had we taught them Christianity instead of Philosophism, they
might have been our best and most grateful friends.

19. Such are, in a few short paragraphs, the evil consequences
of Liberalism in Religion, Economics, and politics. It is quite
clear, therefore, that the devil did achieve a measure of success
when he gave rise to the Reformation in the 16th century. He did
not destroy the Catholic there and then, but the seeds have grown
and are bearing their poisoned fruits today.

20. The devil went a stage further with the French Revolution in
1789; this time, the Catholic Church was to swear allegiance to
the State, two popes were removed by force from the Vatican and
imprisoned, thousands of priests and nuns were killed. But the
Revolutionaries still thought it unwise to deny the existence of
God whom they called the "Supreme Being". Atheism was to be left
for the next stage. The Church rallied in the 19th century, but
the devil had unleashed fresh forces of destruction in the
nascent philosophy of Communism, for this comes straight from the
French Revolution.

21. The latest attempt was the Russian Revolution in 1917. This
time the stage was set for an open denial of the existence of
God, for wholesale persecutions, and for the carefully planned
murder by starvation of literally millions of peasants hostile to
the new regime. The devil was not slow to realise, however, that
even this could not destroy the religious feelings of the people.
Accordingly, Communists embarked upon a policy of infiltration
and dialectical argument (dialogue). Communist agents were hand-
picked and trained for the priesthood in Crimea and elsewhere;
Catholic papers and journals were taken over and the Communists
assumed an air of respectability in their relationships with
Christians. This is the stage reached in 1975, and its success
appears obvious. However, appearances are deceptive, and this
also will fail, and the Communists will revert to a policy of
bloody destructions. This will be the fourth great attempt by
the devil; it will not be confined to Russia as in 1917, it will
be world-wide. But it will fail also. That is why, having
realised that atheistic Materialism was still powerless to
destroy the Kingdom of Christ, the devil shall try yet a
different scheme: he will raise Antichrist, not in order to deny
the existence of God, but in order to be adored as God Himself.
For if the hearts of men cannot do without the notion of God, let
us tell them that I am God. Such will be the purpose of the
devil through Antichrist, and the Fathers of the Church tell us
that it is so.

22. "He shall sit in the Temple of God as if he were Christ, and
leading astray those who worship him." (St. Irenaeus)

23. "This accursed one is sent by the devil in order to lead men
into error." (St. Hildegard) - private prophecy.

24. "Antichrist will be born near Babylon. He will win the
support of many with gifts and money. He will sell himself to
the devil and thereafter will have no guardian angel or
conscience." (St. Jerome)

25. "Dan, Moses said, is a lion's whelp; and in naming the
tribe of Dan he declared clearly the tribe from which Antichrist
is destined to spring." (St. Hippolytus)

26. "Dan shall Judge his people like another tribe in Israel.
Let Dan be a snake in the way, a serpent in the path, that biteth
the horse's heels that the rider may fall backwards." (Genesis,
49:17,18)

27. "He will call together the whole people to himself, out of
every country of the Dispersion, making them his own, as though
they were his own children, and promising to restore their
country and establish again their kingdom and nation, in order
that he may be worshipped by them as God." (St. Hippolytus)

28. The Last Judgment will be preceded by the imposter
Antichrist, who will try to deceive men in four ways:

a) By a false exposition of Scripture, wherein he will try to
prove that he is the Messiah promised by the Law.
b) By working miracles. (i.e. false miracles)
c) By handing out gifts.
d) By inflicting punishments. (St. Anselm)

29. "Antichrist will rule the world from Jerusalem, which
he will make into a magnificent city. (St. Anselm)

30. "For when he is come, and of his own accord concentrates in
his own person the apostasy, and accomplishes whatever he shall
do according to his own will and choice, sitting also in the
Temple of God so that his dupes may adore him as the Christ..."
(St. Irenaeus)

31. "Antichrist will exceed in malice, perversity, lust,
wickedness, impiety, and ruthlessness and barbarity all men that
have ever disgraced human nature. Hence St. Paul emphatically
calls him `the man of sin the son of perdition, the wicked one,
whose birth and coming is through the operation of Satan, in all
manner of seduction and iniquity.' (2 Thess., 2). Through his
great power, deceit and malice he shall succeed in decoying or
forcing to his worship two thirds of mankind; the remaining third
part of men will continue true to the faith and worship of Jesus
Christ most steadfastly. But in his satanic rage and fury,
Antichrist will persecute these brave and devout Christians
during three years and a half, and torture them with such an
extremity of barbarity, with all the old and newly invented
instruments of pain, as to exceed all past persecutors of the
Church combined. He will oblige all his followers to bear
impressed upon their foreheads or right hands the mark of the
Beast and will starve to death all those who refuse to receive
it." (St. Cyril of Jerusalem)

32. "And the churches, too will wail with a mighty lamentation,
because neither oblation nor incense is attended to, nor a
service acceptable to God; but the sanctuaries of the churches
will become like a garden-watcher's hut, and the Holy Body and
Blood of Christ will not be shown in those days. The public
service of God shall be extinguished, psalmody shall cease, the
reading of Scripture shall not be heard; but for men there shall
be darkness and lamentation on lamentation, and woe on woe. At
that time silver and gold shall be cast out in the streets, and
none shall gather them; but all things shall be held an offence.
For all shall be eager to escape and to hide and they shall not
be able anywhere to find shelter from the woes of the Enemy; but
as they carry his mark about them, they shall be readily
recognised and declared to be his. There shall be fear outside,
and trembling inside both by night and by day. In the streets
and in the houses there the dead shall lie; in the streets and in
the houses there shall hunger and thirst be; in the streets there
shall be tumults, and in the houses lamentations. And beauty of
countenance shall be withered, for their forms shall be like
those of the dead; and the beauty of women shall fade, and the
desire of all men shall vanish. But in spite of all this, not
even then will the merciful and benignant God leave the race of
men without some comfort; He will shorten even those days to the
period of three years and a half, and He will curtail those times
on account of the remnant of those who hide in the mountains and
caves, that the phalanx of all those saints fail not utterly.
But these days shall run their course rapidly; and the kingdom
of the Deceiver and Antichrist shall be promptly removed. And
then, finally, in the twinkling of an eye shall the fashion of
this world pass away, and the power of men shall be brought to
naught, and all visible things shall be destroyed." (St.
Hippolytus)

33. "By means of the events which shall occur in the time of
Antichrist it is shown that he, being an apostate and a robber,
is anxious to be adored as God; and that although a mere slave.
he wishes to be proclaimed as a king. For he being endued with
all the power of the devil, shall come, not as a righteous king,
not as a legitimate king obedient to God but as an impious,
unjust, and lawless one; as an iniquitous and murderous apostate;
as a robber, concentrating in himself a satanic apostasy, and
setting aside idols to persuade men that he himself is God."
(St. Irenaeus)

34. "But he who reads this passage, even half asleep, cannot
fail to see that the kingdom of the Antichrist shall fiercely,
though for a short time, assail the Church before the Last
Judgment of God has introduced the eternal reign of saints. For
it is patent from the context that the time, times, and half a
time, means a year, and two years, and half a year, that is to
say, three years and a half. Sometimes in Scripture the same
thing is indicated by months. For though the word times seems to
be used here in Latin in an indefinite manner, that is so only
because the Latins have no dual, as the Greeks have, and as the
Hebrews also are said to have. Times, therefore, is used for two
times. It is a familiar theme in the conversations and hearts of
the faithful, that in the last days before the Judgment, the Jews
shall believe in the true Christ, that is, our Christ, thanks to
this great and admirable prophet Elias who shall expound the Law
to them. For not without reason do we hope that before the
coming of our Judge and Saviour Elias shall come, because we have
good reason to believe that he is now alive; for as Scripture
most distinctly informs us, he was taken up from this earth in a
chariot of fire. When therefore, he is come, he shall give a
spiritual explanation of the Law which the Jews at present
understand carnally ... " (St. Augustine)

35. "During the three and a half years of Antichrist's reign God
will send Henoch and Elias to help the Christians." (St.
Benedict)

36. (Note). Unlike Nero, mentioned in paragraphs 11, 12 & 13,
Henoch and Elias will come back on earth in person. But this is
not a resurrection, for their bodies were changed and taken to
heaven without going through death.

37. "Antichrist will be possessed by Satan and be the
illegitimate son of a Jewish woman from the East." (St. John
Chrysostom)

38. "Antichrist will heal the sick, raise the dead, restore
sight to the blind, hearing to the deaf, speech to the dumb,
raises storms and calms them, re-names mountains, make trees
blossom and wither at a word, re-build the temple of Jerusalem,
and make Jerusalem the capital city of the world with the vast
wealth of hidden treasures. (Rabanus Maurus, private)

39. (Note). Antichrist cannot work genuine miracles; he cannot
give life back to the dead. But he can raise again those who
appear to be dead according to human knowledge and experience,
but are yet not really dead. He can also re-animate dead bodies
by the power of Satan so as to make them appear alive. As for
his healing powers and his dominion over the elements and plants,
this is not at all impossible for there is much more in the way
of psychic powers of the natural order than is generally
accepted. He will possess all these thanks to his master, the
devil. To us, of course such wonders appear to be miraculous but
they are not so in the strict theological sense. Note that R.
Maurus did not say "resurrect the dead", but "raise the dead",
which is vastly different since the word resurrect, despite its
etymological limitations, is generally understood as meaning
"bring to life again", whilst the word raise need not imply this.
(See also par. 3, 52 & 55)

40. "The ocean shall inundate Ireland seven years before the End
so that the devil may not rule over that people." (St. Patrick)

41. "Seven years before the Last Day the sea shall submerge
Ireland in one inundation." (St. Columbkille)

42. "The sea will come over Ireland seven years before the
day of judgment." (St. Nennius)

43. "The sea shall overwhelm Ireland seven years before the
judgment." (Leabhar Breac)

44. "In the latter ages destitution will fall upon many people,
and whenever the English will commit great evils against the
children of Eire, then the English will be expelled and Eire
become the property of her rightful owners." (St. Maeltamhlacht,
7th century)

45. (Note). This prophecy, which was made five centuries before
the English began to subdue Ireland, is given here merely to
confirm that ours are the Last Times, for Ireland is now an
independent nation even though the Northern part is still under
English control.

46. "Ireland will undergo English oppression for a week of
centuries but will preserve her fidelity to God and His Church.
At the end of this time Ireland will be delivered and the English
in turn must suffer severe chastisements. Ireland, however will
be instrumental in bringing back the English to the unity of the
Faith." (St. Patrick, 12th century)

47. (Note). This prophecy was made four centuries before
the Anglican Church was founded.

48. "The English will betray each other, as a result of which
their sovereignty will be broken, and they will stain their
swords and battle-axes with blood ... The English and the Irish
of Ireland will unite in one confederation against the forces of
the Saxons ... One monarch will rule in Ireland, over the English
and the pure Irish. From the reign of that man, the people shall
suffer no destitution." (St. Senanus, 6th century)

49. (Note). Reference is made here to the coming English
revolution and invasion from forces based in Germany; but this
need not be during the persecutions of Antichrist.

50. "Henoch and Elias are being instructed by God in a
mysterious manner in paradise. God shows them the works of men
as though they could see these with natural eyes. The two men
are therefore, much wiser than all wise men put together. The
same force which removed Henoch and Elias from the earth will
bring them back in a storm wind at the time when the Antichrist
will spread his false doctrine. As long as they will dwell
amongst men they will always be refreshed after 4O days. They
have the mission from God to resist the Antichrist and lead the
erring back to the road of salvation. Both men, distinguished by
age and stature, will speak to men: `This accursed one is sent
by the devil in order to lead men into error. We have been
preserved by God at a secreted place, where we did not experience
the suffering of men. We are now sent by God in order to oppose
the heresy of this destroyer. Look, if we resemble you in
stature and age.' And because the testimony of both shall agree
they will be believed. All will follow these two aged men and
renounce heresy. They will visit all cities and towns where
previously the Antichrist had sown his heresy, and through the
power of the Holy Ghost will work genuine miracles. All the
people will be greatly astonished at them. Henoch and Elias will
confuse the followers of Satan with thunder strokes, and destroy
them and fortify the Christians in faith. Therefore, the
Christians will hurry to martyrdom, which the son of evil will
prepare for them like to a banquet, so that the murderers will
grow tired of counting the dead on account of their great
numbers; for their blood will run like rivers.
Henoch and Elias have been taught much wisdom and knowledge
in Paradise while awaiting their return to earth. God will
instruct them every forty days while they are on earth. They
will receive exceptional graces and powers from God to use
against Antichrist.
When the fear of God has been disregarded everywhere,
violent and furious wars will take place. A multitude of people
will be slaughtered and many cities will be transformed into
heaps of rubbish.
The Son of Corruption and Ruin will appear and reign for
only a short time, towards the end of the days of the world's
duration; the period which corresponds to the moment when the sun
has disappeared beyond the horizon; that is to say he shall come
at the last days of the world. He will not be Satan himself, but
a human being equalling and resembling him in atrocious
hideousness. His mother, a depraved woman possessed by the
devil, will live as a prostitute in the desert. She will declare
that she is ignorant as to the identity of his father, and will
maintain that her son was presented to her by God in a
supernatural manner, as was the Child of the Blessed Virgin. She
will then be venerated as a saint by deceived people.
Antichrist will come from a land that lies between two seas,
and will practise his tyranny in the East. After his birth false
teachers and doctrines will appear, followed by wars, famines,
and pestilence.
His mother will seldom let any one see him, and yet by magic
art, she will manage to gain the love of the people for him. He
will be raised at different secret places and will be kept in
seclusion until full grown. When he has grown to full manhood he
will publicly announce a hostile doctrine on religion. He will
lure and attract the people to himself by granting them complete
exemption from the observance of all divine and ecclesiastical
commandments, by forgiving them their sins and requiring of them
only their belief in his divinity. He will spurn and reject
baptism and the gospel. He will open his mouth to preach
contradiction. He will say, `Jesus of Nazareth is not the son of
God, only a deceiver who gave himself out as God; and the Church
instituted by him is only superstition'. The true Christ has
come in his person. He will say, `I am the Saviour of the
world'. Especially will he try to convince the Jews that he is
the Messiah sent by God, and the Jews will accept him as such.
His doctrine of faith will be taken from the Jewish religion and
seemingly will not differ much from the fundamental doctrine of
Christianity, for he will teach that there is one God who created
the world, who is omniscient and knows the thoughts of man and is
just, who rewards the obeyers of his commands and the trespassers
he chastises, who raises all from the dead in due time. This God
has spoken through Moses and the Prophets, therefore the precepts
of the Mosaic laws are to be kept, especially circumcision and
keeping the Sabbath, yet by his moral laws he will try to reverse
all order on earth. Therefore he is called in Holy Writ the
`Lawless One'. He will think that he can change time and laws.
He will discard all laws, morals and religious principles, to
draw the world to himself. He will grant entire freedom from the
commandments of God and the Church and permit everyone to live as
his passions dictate. By doing so he hopes to be acknowledged by
the people as deliverer from the yoke, and as the cause of
prosperity in the world. Religion he will endeavour to make
convenient. He will say that you need not fast and embitter your
life by renunciation, as the people of former times did when they
had no sense of God's goodness. It will suffice to love God. He
will let the people feast to their heart's content so that they
will pity the unfortunate people of former centuries. He will
preach free love and tear asunder family ties. He will scorn
everything holy, and he will ridicule all graces of the Church
with devilish mockery. He will condemn humility and foster proud
and gruesome dogmas. He will tear down that which God has taught
in the Old and New Testament and maintain sin and vice are not
sin and vice. Briefly he will declare the road to Hell is the
way to Heaven.
When the great ruler (the Great Monarch who is to rule
Europe after the collapse of Communism) exterminates the Turks
almost entirely, one of the remaining Mohammadans will be
converted, become a priest bishop and cardinal, and when the new
pope is elected (immediately before Antichrist) this cardinal
will kill the pope before he is crowned, through jealousy,
wishing to be pope himself; then when the other cardinals elect
the next pope this cardinal will proclaim himself Anti-pope, and
two-thirds of the Christians will go with him. He, as well as
Anti-christ, are descendants of the tribe of Dan.
The mark (of Antichrist) will be a hellish symbol of
Baptism, because thereby a person will be stamped as an adherent
of Antichrist and also of the Devil in that he thereby gives
himself over to the influence of Satan. Whoever will not have
this mark of Antichrist can neither buy nor sell anything and
will be beheaded.
He will win over to himself the rulers, the mighty and
the wealthy, will bring about the destruction of those who do not
accept his faith and, finally, will subjugate the entire earth.
The streets of Jerusalem, will then shine in the bright-
est gold with the blood of Christians which will flow like water.
Simultaneously Antichrist will try to increase his wonders. His
executioners will work such miracles when they torment the
Christians that the people will think Antichrist is the true God.
The executioners will not permit the Christians to win the
martyrs' crown easily for they will endeavour to prolong their
pain until they renounce their faith. Yet some will receive a
special grace from God to die during the torments.
Antichrist will make the earth move, level mountains, dry up
rivers, produce thunder and lightning and hail, remove the leaves
from the trees and return them again to the trees, make men sick
and cure them, exorcise devils, raise the dead to life. He will
appear to be crucified and rise from the dead. All in all,
Christians will be astounded and in grievous doubts while the
followers of Antichrist will be confirmed in their false faith.
Finally, when he shall have converted all his plans into
action, he will gather his worshippers about him and tell
them that he will presently ascend toward Heaven. However,
at the moment of the ascension a bolt of lightning will
overwhelm and annihilate him. The planned ascent into heaven
will have been prepared by the artful employment of ingenious
devices, and the moment at which the event was to have taken
place, leading to his destruction, will produce a cloud that will
spread an unbearable odour. Through this many people will again
come to their senses and to understanding.
Then the people should prepare for the last judgment, the
day of which is indeed veiled in secrecy and obscurity, but not
far distant." (St. Hildegard)

51. "As in Christ dwells the fullness of the Godhead so in
Antichrist the fullness of all wickedness. Not indeed in the
sense that his humanity is to be assumed by the devil into unity
of person ..., but that the devil by suggestion infuses his
wickedness more copiously into him than into all others. In this
way all the wicked that have gone before are signs of
Antichrist." (Summa III:8:8)
"(His miracles may be) said to be real just as Pharaoh's
magicians made real frogs, but they will not be real miracles
because they will be done by the power of natural causes." (Summa
II-II:178:1)
"Although men be terrified by the signs appearing about the
judgment day, yet before those signs begin to appear the wicked
will think themselves to be in peace and security after the death
of Antichrist and before the coming of Christ, seeing that the
world is not at once destroyed as they thought hitherto." (Summa,
Sup. 73:1) (St. Thomas Aquinas)
"Elias was taken up into the atmospheric but not the
empyrean heaven ... and likewise Enoch was translated into the
earthly paradise where he is believed to live with Elias until
the coming of Antichrist." (Sum. III:49:5)

52. "The crime of Antichrist is duplex: He is against God and he
puts himself before Christ. In opposing God, he puts himself
above the true God, in place of all false gods and even denies
the participation of humans in the Godhead. The pride of
Antichrist surpasses that of all his predecessors and like Caesar
and the King of Tyre he will say he is God and man and so
represented he will sit in the temple."
Antichrist will be destroyed by the spirit of the mouth
of Christ. That is, by the Holy Ghost or by Christ's command in
that Michael will kill him on Mt. Olivet whence Christ ascended
into Heaven just as Julian (the Apostate) was extinguished by the
divine hand.
"Antichrist will enjoy the use of free will on which the
devil will operate as it was said of Judas: `Satan entered into
him,' that is, by instigating him. He shall deceive both by
worldly power and the operation of miracles. In the matter of
worldly power, St. John (Apoc. XIII) says `He will control the
treasures of gold and silver and all the previous things of
Egypt.' The power of miracles will be simulated. `He will do
wondrous signs and even make fire come upon the earth' (Dan. XI)
and thus, he will lead many into error even, were it possible,
the elect' (Matt. 24).
"But his miracles will be lies. No one can perform a true
miracle against the faith, because God is not a witness of
falsity. Hence, no one preaching a false doctrine can work
miracles, whereas one leading a bad life could." (Comment in II
Thess. II, Lec. 1-III) (St. Thomas Aquinas)

53. "After the two prophets, (Henoch and Elias) are killed the
greatest power on earth will be given to Antichrist. Then they
will set up cauldrons on the streets with boiling contents, and
drive the men who are known as Christians, and their wives and
children, there, to choose either to profess in the Deity of
Antichrist and thereby to keep their family and be rewarded with
riches and a home, or to profess the Christian faith, and
thereby, death in the boiling cauldron. Thereupon the women and
their children, who will choose to die for love of Jesus, will be
thrown into a pit of fire covered with wood and straw and burnt.
Both men are in Paradises living in bliss and eating the
same foods which once Adam had eaten. They, too, must shun, in
obedience to God, the same tree from which Adam and Eve were not
to eat. This tree is not large; its fruit looks very nice and
lovely like a rose, in the interior, however, it is sour by
nature whereby is indicated the bitter evil of sin. God has
forbidden this fruit because it is very harmful to men and is
even now regarded as poison. An angel will accompany Henoch and
Elias from Paradise. The clearness and bliss which surrounded
their bodies will then disappear and they will receive again the
terrestrial appearance and will become mortal beings. As soon as
they will see the earth they will be frightened like people who
see the ocean and do not know how they can cross it. They
will eat honey and figs and drink water mixed with wine while
their spirit will be nourished by God. They will appear as
preachers in the last time of misery when most of the good men
have already died as martyrs, and they will console the people
for a long time yet. Henoch and Elias will close in on the
Antichrist; they will tell the people who he is, by whose power
he works miracles, in which way he came into the world and what
will be his end. Then many a man and woman will be converted.
Henoch and Elias will expose the devilish trickery of
Antichrist to the people. As a consequence he will put them to
death. For three and one-half days their bodies will be exposed
to insults and the followers of Antichrist will presume that all
danger is now past, but suddenly the bodies of the two prophets
will move, rise and gaze on the crowd and begin to praise God. A
great earthquake, similar to that at Christ's resurrection, will
take place: Jerusalem will be partially destroyed and thousands
killed. Then a voice from heaven will call out "Ascend,"
whereupon the prophets will ascend into heaven, resulting in the
conversion of many. Antichrist will reign thirty days after
their ascension." (St. Mechtilda)

54. "This Prince of Liars will swear by the Bible and pose as
the arm of the Almighty, chastising a corrupt age.
In the beginning he will work by cunning and crime. His
spies will infest the whole world and he will become master of
the secrets of the mighty. He will pay theologians to show that
his mission is from God.
A war will give him the opportunity to assume his true role
- this war will not be the one he will wage against a French
sovereign but one which will within a fortnight involve the whole
world and will be easily recognised by his mark on his
followers."
(Note) Towards the end of his reign the Great Monarch will
have to wage a war against Antichrist. He will win it, but will
die shortly afterwards. It is likely that at this stage of his
rising power, Antichrist will not yet be known as such.
"The Angels will enlighten men and in the third week they
will wonder if this is truly the Antichrist, and realising that
it is they will either have to fight to overthrow him or become
his slaves.
Antichrist will be recognised by various tokens: in especial
he will massacre the priests, the monks, the women, the children,
and the aged. He will show no mercy, but will pass torch in
hand, like the barbarians, yet invoking Christ! His words of
imposture will resemble those of Christians, but his actions will
be those of Nero and of the Roman persecutors. He will have an
eagle in his coat of arms as also his lieutenant, the other
wicked ruler - this latter will be a Christian who will die when
cursed by the Pope, who will be elected at the beginning of the
reign of Antichrist.
Priests and monks will no longer be seen hearing confessions
and absolving the combatants: partly because they will be
fighting alongside other Christians and partly because the Pope,
having cursed Antichrist, will proclaim that all who fight
against him, if they die, will go to Heaven as martyrs. The
Bull, proclaiming these things will rekindle the courage of the
faint-hearted and will cause the death of the monarch allied with
Antichrist. Before Antichrist is overthrown however, more men
will have been killed than were ever within the walls of Rome.
(Note) This is the "Nero" referred to in paragraphs 11 and
12. Nero will rule the West after the death of the Great
Christian Monarch of French origin.
"Never will humanity have been faced with such a peril,
because the triumph of Antichrist would be that of the demon, who
will have taken possession of his personality. For it has been
said that, twenty centuries after the Incarnation of the Word the
Beast will be incarnate in his turn and will menace the earth
with as many evils as the Incarnation has brought it graces.
Towards the year 2000 Antichrist will be made manifest. His
army, will surpass in number anything that can be imagined.
There will be Christians among his cohorts, and there will be
Mohammedan and heathen soldiers among the defenders of the Lamb."
(John of the Cleft Rock)

55. "The greatest opposition to Antichrist will come from the
preaching of Henoch and Elias whom he will destroy after 1260
days. They will rise again after three and one half days. The
first fifteen days will be a reign of terror. At the age of
thirty-two and one-half years he will be slain on Mt. Olivet,
probably by St. Michael. The jubilation of his followers will be
suddenly cut short by a general slaughter. Forty-five days for
repentance will intervene before the Last Judgment.
After the destruction of Rome, Antichrist will appear and
exalt himself above pagan deities and the Trinity. His name
signifies one who is against Christ. Begotten, of a sinful man
and of a woman into whom the devil has entered, Antichrist will
be born of the tribe of Dan in the city of Corozain. The good
angel assigned to him at his birth will be obliged to leave him
as witches, necromancers and other disreputable characters take
charge of his education in Bethsaida. Coming to Jerusalem, he
will proclaim himself Christ and at first feign to be holy. He
will succeed through false preaching, miracles, gifts, terror,
aided throughout by the devil. An evil spirit will come out of
the air and descend upon his followers. He shall feign a
resurrection from the dead, cause rain to fall, stone images to
speak, and perform other wonders, all through the power of the
devil. The recalling of the dead to life will be only apparent;
devils entering the dead bodies will cause the illusion.
Antichrist will be the greatest tyrant of all time. His
adherents will be marked with his sign. Devils shall be let
loose from hell. The Jews will welcome him. (Richard Rolle of
Hampole)

56. "God alone is great. Much good has been accomplished. The
saints are about to suffer. The man of sin arrives. He
(Antichrist) is born from two bloods. The white flower becomes
obscured during ten times six moons, and six times twenty moons
(during about one hundred and eighty months), and it disappears,
nevermore to be seen." (Prophecy of Orval)
(Note) Quite a number of interpretations are possible here
but none should be regarded as certain: Here are two:
a) 180 months = 15 years, i.e. the Great Monarch will die in
2015 and his reign will then begin between 1980 and 1990.
Antichrist will be born at that time too.
b) 180 months can also be 180 years in prophetic language. The
last legitimate French Monarch ceased to reign in 1830. 180
years later, in 2010, his successor also will cease to reign.
(Prophetic computations are always hazardous.)

57. "At the time when Antichrist is about twenty years old, most
of the world will have lost the faith.
Antichrist will be descended from the tribe of Dan. The
people at that time will be very corrupt. He will preach to the
people while flying through the air. Many fervent priests and
religious in the wilderness and desert will be miraculously
sustained by God. Some of them will travel about to encourage
the Christians to remain firm in the faith till death.
When a pious Christian is pleading to God for help before
a crucifix in his room, Satan will disturb him in his prayers and
confuse him. He will cause a voice to come from the crucifix
saying: `Why do you call on Me, as if I can help you? I am not
God nor the Saviour of the world, but a sorcerer, an instigator
and deceiver of the people, for I was a false prophet and as a
consequence I am damned to everlasting hell fire. Therefore,
call on me no more, lest by calling on me you increase the pain
that I must suffer in Hell. Through the power of Almighty God,
whose gospel is now preached throughout the world, I am urged and
compelled to tell you the truth and reveal to you that I am not
the son of God, but rather the greatest sorcerer the world has
ever had, and hence for all eternity I must suffer the severest
pains without hope of redemption.' Also the pictures of the
Mother of God at times will speak when someone will be praying
before them: `Cease your supplications. I am not the Mother of
God. I have no power with God. I am only a miserable creature.
You should take refuge with the true Brother of the Most High,
whose teachings are being taught to you today.' It will be the
same with the pictures of the Saints. That it is the devil who
speaks from the crucifixes and pictures but few will perceive, on
the contrary, many will run excitedly to the apostles of
Antichrist to accept the new religion. By order of these
apostles they will trample on the crucifix and holy pictures and
break them into pieces.
When a mother has her infant in her arms or puts it in the
cradle, in a clear and distinct voice it will begin to speak,
acknowledging the deity of Antichrist and urging the mother to
leave Christ and turn to Antichrist. The child will reproach the
parents, that they, in spite of the many miracles of Antichrist,
still persist in their wickedness and obstinacy. Oh how much
anguish will those parents have to bear! Yet many Christians
will remember that this was all foretold of Antichrist for
centuries past and perceive the fraud of Satan and refuse to be
deceived. They will stand firm and enlighten the faint-hearted
and console them." (Bernadine Von Busto)

58. "As Henoch and Elias will Preach against the Antichrist and
draw many away from him, he will, as soon as he perceives the
damage, march towards Jerusalem in order to prove there that he
be the true Messiah and God. He will kill both prophets in
Jerusalem. Their bodies will remain lying in the streets
unburied, but on the fourth day they will be resurrected by a
voice from heaven, `Henoch and Elias arise!' and ride to heaven
in a cloud. Then the followers of Antichrist will regret having
believed him and will repent their sins. Thereupon, Antichrist
will make it known that after fifteen days he will also ascend
into heaven, so that no one can doubt his divinity. On the
appointed day he will majestically seat himself on a beautiful
chair, on Mt. Olivet, in view of a large crowd and before all the
people will lift himself up towards heaven through the help of
evil. But, here at the command of God, the Archangel Michael
will cast him down to earth by a stroke of lightning."
(The Sibylle, Queen Michaula of Saba)

59. "Antichrist will come as the Messiah from a land between two
seas in the East.
He will be born in the desert; his mother being a prostitute
to the Jews and Hindus; he will be a lying and false prophet and
will try to ride to heaven like Elias. He will begin work in the
East, as a soldier and preacher of religion when thirty years
old.
Antichrist and his army will conquer Rome, kill the Pope and
take the throne.
He will restore the Turkish regime destroyed by the Great
Monarch. The Jews, knowing from the Bible that Jerusalem will be
the seat of the Messiah, will come from everywhere and accept
Antichrist as the Messiah.
He will be able to fly. His flight will take place from Mt.
Calvary. He will tell the crowd he is going after Henoch and
Elias (who has arisen from the dead) in order to kill them again.
(Ven B. Holzhauser)

60. "The conception of Antichrist will be like Christ's except
that it will be by the devil instead of the Holy Ghost. He will
have the devil's power like Christ had God's.
(Note) Antichrist will not be conceived by the devil in the
same way Our Lord was conceived by the Holy Ghost (see par. 51).
But, although of a human father, his conception will be inspired
and, so to speak, supervised by the devil himself.
"Antichrist will present himself to the Jews as the Messiah.
They will be his followers." (2 Thess. 2:9)
"Antichrist will have the powers of the devil from the
beginning. He will be so evil it would seem his father was the
devil. (See also par. 51 as note above). He will inherit his
evil tendencies from his mother, who will also train him in evil.

His wife will be a Jewess but he will have many women,
especially the daughters of rulers. (Dan. 11:27).
Antichrist's life will be a mockery of Christ's. He will be
a convincing speaker, have great knowledge, the gift of tongues
(Apoc. 13:5) and be a child wonder at six or seven.
He will take the riches of the world to Jerusalem and appear
to have power over natural laws.
Elias will cause the rain, dew and snow to cease in those
countries where the inhabitants oppose the two prophets and
refuse to reject Antichrist. The first land to be so punished
will be Palestine in order to win over the Jews.
After Elias finds the `Ark of the Covenant' of the Jews,
(hidden until the recall of the Jews to God), he and Henoch will
place the Blessed Sacrament upon it. The Jews will then realise
the Jesus Christ and not Antichrist is the true Messiah. They
will desert Antichrist and make a pilgrimage to Mount Nebo
(where the Ark is found) bewailing the hardheartedness of their
ancestors. Thereafter they will accept the Christian faith.
The Antichrist will kill Henoch and Elias and leave them
unburied. These will, however, be resurrected after three and
one-half days and ascend into heaven in a cloud in the presence
of their enemy. This miraculous event will actually confuse
Antichrist. In order that the nations will not abandon him, he
will lift himself with great majesty into space on Mt. Olivet,
with the purported intention to cast down the prophets who have
ascended into heaven. But in this moment Christ will strike him
down. The earth will open and swallow him and his prophets
alive. Then a large part of Jerusalem will fall into ruins from
the earthquake." (Dionysius of Luxemburg)

61. "Then the Son of God, Our Lord Jesus Christ, shall come in
person. He shall appear on the clouds of heaven surrounded by
legions of angels; and, shining with glory, He will put to death
Antichrist, the Beast, the Enemy, the Seducer, and all his
followers. This shall be the end of time and the beginning of
the general judgment." (St. Zenobius)


POSTSCRIPT

I have just received the February 25th issue of "Fatima
International". Before going to press I should like to comment
on an article entitled "The Millennium" by R. Bergin in which he
develops his pet theory. (I quote):
"That message (i.e. Fatima) indicates clearly that the
empire of the Antichrist is world Communism, for Our Lady marked
this "error" as the specific enemy in her words at the Cova da
Iria on July 13th 1917." (End of quote)
The first remark, here, is that nowhere and at no time did
Our Lady use the phrase `Communism is the specific enemy'. Nor,
for that matter, did she use the word `Communism' at all.
However, she did speak specifically of Russia and the errors
which this country would spread. The inference is therefore
clear that she was indeed alluding to Communism. But this is a
vastly different thing from stating: `This is the Specific
Enemy'. But, even if Our Lady had done so, we would do well to
remember that the specific enemy of a given historical period in
no way points to the Antichrist himself. In 1800, the specific
enemy was Napoleon; in 1870, it was Bismarck, who was rabidly
anti-Christian; in 1914, there was no specific enemy, for the
Great liar was engineered by Freemasonry, and not at all the wish
of the German Kaiser; in 1939, the specific enemy was Hitler;
today, it is indeed Communism. But this does not allow the hasty
conclusion that Communism is the Antichrist.
R. Bergin further develops his attendant theory of the
Millennium. I willingly concede that there is a great deal of
presumptive evidence in favour of the Millennium theory, but it
is also a fact that the theory was condemned by the Church in no
uncertain terms. The presumptive evidence which we possess is,
therefore, nothing more than ... a presumption. In fact, the
Church ruled that the error of the Millenarists rested primarily
on a faulty interpretation of Apocalypse 20, - which is the very
argument put forward by R. Bergin who sees in the Apocalypse an
exact historical sequence, unmindful or unaware of the very
grounds on which the Church, who alone is qualified to interpret
Scripture based her ruling; unmindful and unaware also of the
work of the great Apocalyptic exegetes who, for their part, did
not see any rigorous historical sequence in the Book of St. John.
Obviously, R. Bergin has not read them anymore than he has read
the Fathers of the Church concerning Anti-Christ, and it is on
this ignorance that he gives free rein to his fancies.
Surprisingly, though, R. Bergin quotes II Thess. 2:8. In
this, St. Paul says that the Antichrist will be destroyed by the
brightness of the coming of Christ. Well, if a Millennium is to
be fitted between the punishing `Brightness' and the actual
arrival of Our Lord upon earth, it seems that it would take a
mighty long time for Our Lord to come down from heaven! Is this
the `twinkling of an eye' of Holy Writ? Can a twinkling of an
eye last 1000 years or, for that matter, even 100 years?
On the other hand, if we say that the Millennium is to come
after the coming of Christ, then we are simply spreading a
Protestant heresy.
If, in the economy of salvation, there is another 1000 years
to intervene after the coming of Christ, it will not be and
cannot be part of human history. It can only be a spiritual, or
physically glorified, New Earth and/or New Heavens, the exact
nature and the purpose of which is completely beyond human
knowledge. This question has been debated by the greatest
theologians and Doctors of the Church and, to my knowledge, none
has presented his particular findings as positive truth, whilst
many have taken pains to explain that no absolute certainty could
be reached in this field of research, except that Christ will not
reign visibly on earth, and that His Second Coming is indeed the
end. For all his devotion to Our Lady of Fatima, R. Bergin,
regrettably, is teaching positive heresy in this respect.
In another article of the same edition of "Fatima
International" entitled "The Protocols", the writer (probably R.
Bergin, though the article is unsigned) contends that "The
Protocols of Zion" is a forgery. According to the author of that
article the forgery has been "amply demonstrated" and, for good
measure, the forger is called a `degenerate'!
Let me say at this juncture that the authenticity of the
Protocols has not been incontrovertibly established, but to state
flatly that it is a forgery is quite another thing. A few years
ago, a lawsuit took place in Switzerland in this regard. The
plaintiff sought an injunction refraining the defendant from
presenting the Protocols as genuine Jewish document. But he lost
his suit: the Judge ruled that the forgery could not be proved
beyond any reasonable doubt. Apparently, R. Bergin, or whoever
wrote that article, knows better. Worse, the author goes on to
say (I quote) "It is on this flimsy evidence (i.e. the Protocols)
that some Catholics tell us today that the Antichrist must be a
Jew" (End of quote). Well, you have just read "Antichrist".
Nowhere did I mention the Protocols to support my case, yet I
think I have sufficiently shown that Antichrist will indeed be a
Jew.
That article, which is full of errors and gratuitous
interpretations says some extraordinary things, to wit, that the
Protocols were responsible for the Communist revolution in
Russia, and for the liquidation of six million Jews in Germany.
This is a lot of power and influence to ascribe to a `forgery'!
The most glaring error of fact here is the "six million Jews", a
lie promoted by some Zionists to serve their own aims and
slavishly repeated by the Western Press ever since. In point of
fact as shown by Leon de Poncias in his book "Judaism and the
Vatican" the correct figure is in the vicinity of one million, a
figure which was arrived at by a number of independent
researchers, including some Jews who had enough integrity to
admit the fact.
As for the error of interpretation, it lies in the
contention that the Protocols were responsible for the Jews
financing the Russian Revolution. The truth is that the Jews, by
reason of their having crucified Christ, are and have always been
anti-Christian. They have provided the financial backbone to
every Revolution, with or without the Protocols, because it is
their avowed aim to destroy the Empire of the Gentiles. For this
reason, Jewish interests financed Hitler's rise to power just as
they had financed Lenin 15 years earlier, but the author does not
mention this.
The article under scrutiny also dismisses the contention
according to which Jewish interests are responsible for the
world-wide collapse in morality. I hasten to say that the Jews
do not bear the full responsibility for this; other factors as
well should be taken into account, but it is an indisputable fact
that the most widely read newspapers and magazines, including
pornographic magazines, are owned or financed by Jews. (Mind
you, I do not say `the Jews' here; not every Jew by any means
ought to be implicated.)
As for the Protocols, which the author of the article
blames for so many evils, they are no worse, really, than the
Talmud itself. It matters little, therefore, whether they are a
`forgery': the Talmud is quite sufficient evidence to show that
the aim of the Zionists is no less than the destruction of the
Empire of the Gentiles. And this, they will achieve under
Antichrist, their King. As a last absurdity, the author of the
article says that Antichrist should be an apostate Christian, not
a Jew.
It is astounding how such a profusion of untruth, bias, and
error could be packed into a 700-word article. It would seem
that it has been drawn from one of those fashionable pro-Jewish
books which are currently disgracing the shelves of our erstwhile
Catholic bookshops ever since the French historian Isaac
prevailed upon Pope John to delete all adverse references to the
Jews in our liturgy.
Not that I myself approve of the game of Jew hunting and Jew
hating; nothing could be more despicable and less Christian than
this. We must indeed love all men including Jews. But to love a
man as Christ loved all men is one thing. To condone his
actions, to deny his evil aims, and to deliberately ignore his
claim over the rest of mankind because he belongs to the "Master
Race", is quite another thing. The fact is Jews were racialists
long before Hitler and, as far as I am concerned, the contents of
the Talmud, confirmed by the evidence of certain historical
events, is ample proof that the Jewish Nation as a whole will not
rest until the Empire of the Gentiles has been destroyed.

THE END


85 posted on 05/30/2005 5:29:57 PM PDT by AdMajoremDeiGloriam (We are on the cusp of the Age of Blessed Virgin Mary)
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To: nmh
Even if people don't believe in that crap, they'll be too horrified by seeing beheadings to do anything about it so you submit through terror.



Which was how Islam spread to begin with....
86 posted on 05/30/2005 5:40:05 PM PDT by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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To: LoudRepublicangirl

Yup!

I don't know this is the group behind this ... but we both know they LIKE beheadings ... and this verse comes to mind:

Rev.20:4

[4] And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.


87 posted on 05/30/2005 6:23:15 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: AdMajoremDeiGloriam

I replied to your posting. My computer scrambled and locked as I was using spell check. I will write it again. Sorry for the delay.


88 posted on 05/30/2005 6:29:57 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: AdMajoremDeiGloriam
You know what I always find so curious ... the relationship of Catholicism to Muslims. This kook, Fatima was Mohammad's DAUGHTER. Yes, the same Mohammad that Muslims follow. Nothing good could come from her. She is as evil as her father.
89 posted on 05/30/2005 6:34:43 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: AdMajoremDeiGloriam
A Theologian I am not. A protestant I am. I will not convert to Catholicism. It was a very interesting read until the last, where the ills of the world have been lain at the feet of Judaism. That you would include The Protocols of Zion in an debate about the anti-Christ is truly confusing. The book has been declared a fake. I believe it was written by a Soviet, a communist. A book I am told is from cover to cover anti-semetic. I do not now or ever will, believe that the Jews want to destroy the world.

n another article of the same edition of "Fatima International" entitled "The Protocols", the writer (probably R. Bergin, though the article is unsigned) contends that "The Protocols of Zion" is a forgery. According to the author of that article the forgery has been "amply demonstrated" and, for good measure, the forger is called a `degenerate'! Let me say at this juncture that the authenticity of the Protocols has not been incontrovertibly established, but to state flatly that it is a forgery is quite another thing. A few years ago, a lawsuit took place in Switzerland in this regard. The plaintiff sought an injunction refraining the defendant from presenting the Protocols as genuine Jewish document. But he lost his suit: the Judge ruled that the forgery could not be proved beyond any reasonable doubt. Apparently, R. Bergin, or whoever wrote that article, knows better. Worse, the author goes on to say (I quote) "It is on this flimsy evidence (i.e. the Protocols) that some Catholics tell us today that the Antichrist must be a Jew" (End of quote). Well, you have just read "Antichrist". Nowhere did I mention the Protocols to support my case, yet I think I have sufficiently shown that Antichrist will indeed be a Jew. That article, which is full of errors and gratuitous interpretations says some extraordinary things, to wit, that the Protocols were responsible for the Communist revolution in Russia, and for the liquidation of six million Jews in Germany. This is a lot of power and influence to ascribe to a `forgery'! The most glaring error of fact here is the "six million Jews", a lie promoted by some Zionists to serve their own aims and slavishly repeated by the Western Press ever since. In point of fact as shown by Leon de Poncias in his book "Judaism and the Vatican" the correct figure is in the vicinity of one million, a figure which was arrived at by a number of independent researchers, including some Jews who had enough integrity to admit the fact. As for the error of interpretation, it lies in the contention that the Protocols were responsible for the Jews financing the Russian Revolution. The truth is that the Jews, by reason of their having crucified Christ, are and have always been anti-Christian. They have provided the financial backbone to every Revolution, with or without the Protocols, because it is their avowed aim to destroy the Empire of the Gentiles. For this reason, Jewish interests financed Hitler's rise to power just as they had financed Lenin 15 years earlier, but the author does not mention this. The article under scrutiny also dismisses the contention according to which Jewish interests are responsible for the world-wide collapse in morality. I hasten to say that the Jews do not bear the full responsibility for this; other factors as well should be taken into account, but it is an indisputable fact that the most widely read newspapers and magazines, including pornographic magazines, are owned or financed by Jews. (Mind you, I do not say `the Jews' here; not every Jew by any means ought to be implicated.) As for the Protocols, which the author of the article blames for so many evils, they are no worse, really, than the Talmud itself. It matters little, therefore, whether they are a `forgery': the Talmud is quite sufficient evidence to show that the aim of the Zionists is no less than the destruction of the Empire of the Gentiles. And this, they will achieve under Antichrist, their King. As a last absurdity, the author of the article says that Antichrist should be an apostate Christian, not a Jew. It is astounding how such a profusion of untruth, bias, and error could be packed into a 700-word article. It would seem that it has been drawn from one of those fashionable pro-Jewish books which are currently disgracing the shelves of our erstwhile Catholic bookshops ever since the French historian Isaac prevailed upon Pope John to delete all adverse references to the Jews in our liturgy. Not that I myself approve of the game of Jew hunting and Jew hating; nothing could be more despicable and less Christian than this. We must indeed love all men including Jews. But to love a man as Christ loved all men is one thing. To condone his actions, to deny his evil aims, and to deliberately ignore his claim over the rest of mankind because he belongs to the "Master Race", is quite another thing. The fact is Jews were racialists long before Hitler and, as far as I am concerned, the contents of the Talmud, confirmed by the evidence of certain historical events, is ample proof that the Jewish Nation as a whole will not rest until the Empire of the Gentiles has been destroyed.

Sir, do you actually believe that? That the Jews are responsible for all past and future wars? That they want to destroy Christendom?

I do believe that Henoch and Elias will be murdered and left to lay where the world will witness two righteous men for three days. At no time in our history would the entire world been able to see at the same time such a thing. Only with the invent of world wide television is that possible in our time.

I am not a heretic. I believe in the Father, Son and Holy Ghost. For you to say that I am a heretic because I am not Catholic is wrong. I could say that you are the heretic for being Catholic, but I would not do that.

Islam, as an idea is as dangerous as a flesh and blood anti-Christ. Their teachings tells them to conquer and destroy or convert to islam, or be killed. That, is a dangerous idea as well.

I do not see the Jews as our enemies and never will. I see islam as the destroyer of worlds.

90 posted on 05/30/2005 6:58:34 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown

Sir

I have decided that this will be my last post.

[Why? I have to concentrate on other areas of my life, nothing to do with this website or you personally. It is just too time consuming to respond via the web in such a manner. Not the most efficient]

Also,I do not want to enter into a long,drawn-out discussion
of the 488-year-old (1517-2005) Protestant heresy with you, since I am a late-20th-century American white college-educated tradRC Christian male who is also woefully inadequate in theology and religious history/apologetics.

Sir, I truly seek the truth. I rely very heavily on the Holy Rosary of the Blessed Virgin Mary to show me the
exceedingly clever subterfuges of Hell in the world, and
it is truly amazing what has been shown to me.

Look, the essential grace that the Blessed Virgin Mary will
give any truth seeker is HUMILITY ("Be it done unto me according to Thy Word")...that is the queen of the virtues and can only be attained through the devout praying of the Rosary. Our Lady is dispensatrix of all virtues - and she will lead you to the gates of Heaven through the Rosary. Our Merciful Lord Jesus Christ opened those gates for us to once again enter, and, through the Holy Rosary...we are led there through the Blessed Virgin Mary.

Sir, this is the God's Honest Truth.

As for possibly becoming a true-Christian beheaded sometime within the next 25 years (by the demon-worshipping Islamist)...pray this prayer every night before going to bed:

RESIGNATION TO THE WILL OF GOD IN DEATH
(Pope St Pius The Tenth)
Lord, My God, whatever be the kind of death which it pleases thee to reserve for me, I from this moment on receive that death with all my heart and with all my soul. I accept that death from thy hands with all its anguish, pains and sorrows.

(Alternative version)
My Most Sweet Jesus, My Merciful Lord, I accept the death that Thou hast destined for me; with all the pains that may accompany it; I unite it to Thy death, I offer it to Thee, Thou hast died for love of me, I will die for love of Thee and to please Thee.

Godspeed to you, sir.


91 posted on 05/30/2005 7:33:10 PM PDT by AdMajoremDeiGloriam (Farewell-Pray the Most Holy Rosary of the Blessed Virgin Mary)
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To: AdMajoremDeiGloriam
I am a Madam, sir.

I think you would be a great asset to FR, sorry to hear that you will not be staying.

since I am a late-20th-century American white college-educated tradRC Christian male who is also woefully inadequate in theology and religious history/apologetics.

I am a middle 20 century white High School drop out, Christian female, who is also woefully inadequate in religious history. I depend on my childhood Sunday School teachings, and reading my Bible to carry me through life.

I took a Dante test on my place in the everafter, I can be found, according to Dante, on level 5.

I accept that death from thy hands with all its anguish, pains and sorrows.

On that point, you and I differ sir. I will not go quietly into the night when the islamist come for me and mine. I'm pretty sure I will take a few of the heathens with me when I make that sudden departure. I'll leave it in God's hands if I am worthy to enter his Kingdom.

Again, I'm sorry you are not staying at FR. It's a place for many ideas and discussions amongst a variety of peoples.

92 posted on 05/30/2005 7:50:27 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Oberon; Bommer; nmh
I got it the first time with no prompting! Here ya go Obie - for some you need one of these < /Sarcasm >
If I can find the recent article that outlines how people with damage to the frontal cortex suffer from the inability to recognize sarcasm I'll get back to you ... ;-)
93 posted on 05/30/2005 9:44:40 PM PDT by Tunehead54 (What's this for?)
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To: Tunehead54
"If I can find the recent article that outlines how people with damage to the frontal cortex suffer from the inability to recognize sarcasm I'll get back to you ... ;-)"

Cute.

Seen the early be headings or do you have something clever to say about that too?

Care to point out the brain shut down when an innocent Americana and others when beheaded too?

Aren't YOU hilarious!

Why, YOU'RE so funny, I forgot to laugh.

I don't find these people, Muslims, amusing nor your idiotic sarcasm.
94 posted on 05/30/2005 10:29:23 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: pbrown

Amen.


95 posted on 05/30/2005 11:31:54 PM PDT by hardworking (Seven wishy-washy Republican senators = America's soft underbelly that Osama B.L. mentioned)
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To: Tunehead54
If I can find the recent article that outlines how people with damage to the frontal cortex suffer from the inability to recognize sarcasm I'll get back to you ... ;-)

You're right, TH. It's just lost on some folks. Oh well. =]

96 posted on 05/31/2005 5:53:10 AM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: nmh
Islamic beliefs Jesus himself was not crucified, but rather someone else who resembled him.

Of course. This happens so often at executions.

The real one must have left in a flying saucer.

97 posted on 05/31/2005 6:08:08 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Oberon
How do they know the stickers and posters aren't portraying the guy who looked like Jesus being crucified?

LOL!

98 posted on 05/31/2005 6:08:58 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: nmh
"images" are prohibited by Christians as well as Jews.

Images of Christ go back to the earliest times. Even Jesus created an image of Himself.

99 posted on 05/31/2005 6:16:02 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: nmh
Our friends, the Saudis.
100 posted on 05/31/2005 6:18:40 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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