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Schieffer: To Save America's Honor, Guantanamo Must Be Closed("the anti-Statue of Liberty")
MRC ^ | Tuesday May 31, 2005 | BrentBaker

Posted on 05/31/2005 9:23:48 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay

Recalling how John McCain's "code of honor" is what "separated him from his captors" in communist North Vietnam, on Sunday's Face the Nation host Bob Schieffer casually referred to how he "thought about that as yet another tale of torture and abuse came out about the POW camp we are running at Guantanamo Bay." Schieffer then proceeded to endorse New York Times columnist Tom Friedman's recommendation that "the prison ought to be shut down because the stories about it are so inflaming the Arab world." Schieffer presumed the worst about the uncorroborated charges related to detainee treatment, most of which fall far short of qualifying as "torture." Schieffer asked: "I wondered if the greater danger is the impact Guantanamo is having on us. Do we want our children to believe this is how we are?" Characterizing the U.S. as no better than our enemies, Schieffer concluded: "As we reflect on the meaning of Memorial Day, let us remember first what it is that separates us from those who would take away our freedom," the code "John McCain's dad taught his kid."

In his Friday column, "Just Shut It Down," Friedman, from London, framed the anti-U.S. media in Britain and Germany as the best guide to U.S. policy:

"If you want to appreciate how corrosive Guantanamo has become for America's standing abroad, don't read the Arab press. Don't read the Pakistani press. Don't read the Afghan press. Hop over here to London or go online and just read the British press! See what our closest allies are saying about Gitmo. And when you get done with that, read the Australian press and the Canadian press and the German press."

Friedman insisted that stories of abuse at Guantanamo are "inflaming sentiments against the U.S. all over the world and providing recruitment energy on the Internet for those who would do us ill." He charged: "Guantanamo Bay is becoming the anti-Statue of Liberty."

Maybe we should shut down the media instead which spread such anti-American hatred.

And how would closing Guantanamo achieve anything? Wouldn't the America-hating media -- at home and abroad -- simply publicize prisoner-complaints at whatever facility replaces Guantanamo?

For Friedman's May 27 column in full: www.nytimes.com

In the last segment of the May 29 Face the Nation, Schieffer, who also anchors the CBS Evening News, delivered this commentary:

"Finally today, the other night I went to a screening of Faith of Our Fathers, the new movie about John McCain's five-year ordeal in a North Vietnamese prison that airs on A&E tomorrow night. It flashes back to McCain's high school days, when the principal reported bad grades to McCain's father, whose only question was not about grades but whether his son had violated the school honor code. Had he lied or cheated? When told that he had not, his father said, 'Well, call me if he does that.'

"McCain says that code of honor drilled into him by his father and the Naval Academy is why he was able to survive the torture and the inhumanity of his prison captors. He couldn't let his father down. That code of honor was the center of his life and it gave him strength -- what separated him from his captors.

"I thought about that as yet another tale of torture and abuse came out about the POW camp we are running at Guantanamo Bay. Columnist Tom Friedman said the prison ought to be shut down because the stories about it are so inflaming the Arab world they're making the war on terrorism more dangerous for our American soldiers to fight. But as I watched the McCain movie, I wondered if the greater danger is the impact Guantanamo is having on us. Do we want our children to believe this is how we are? Is this the code of honor we are passing on to the next generation?

"As we reflect on the meaning of Memorial Day, let us remember first what it is that separates us from those who would take away our freedom: What John McCain's dad taught his kid, what we should be teaching ours."


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Canada; Crime/Corruption; Cuba; Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Germany; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bobschieffer; cbs; facethenation; guantanamo; johnmccain; justshutitdown; leftistimbecile; poorratings; tomfriedman
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Tom Friedman is right about one thing.." the stories about it [Guantanamo] are so inflaming the Arab world". He, Schieffer and the biased liberal media should know as they are the "inflamers". Their ilk are the ones who carelessly add fuel to the flames of terrorism as EVERY day passes. Their "holy media scriptures" are replayed by the Germans, the Pakistani, the French, the Canadians etc.,press.

To "inflame" the enemy with "uncorroborated charges" means MORE of our brave and honorable men and women fighting this war on terror will be killed. It means the longer this war in Iraq and Afghanistan will play on, perhaps even moving to other hotbeds of terror in the Middle East.

To question the Code of Honor of those serving in Guantanamo, even though adorned with white gloves to respectfully carry the Qur'an to imprisoned terrorists, questions the Code of Honor of not just a few; but ALL our honorable brave men and women in the Armed Forces. As long as Friedman, Schieffer continue to challenge the Code of Honor of your brothers and sisters, your friends and other family members; no matter what rank they may hold, the terrorists will find it easier to recruit more and more terrorists. Friedman and Schieffer and their Liberal thinking media buddies are the best poster children for Terrorist Recruitment, Incorporated.

Friedman and his own media mimic, Schieffer, need to question their own "Code of Honor".

Just my opinion.

Here's how to get in touch with Face the Nation with Bob Schieffer courtesy of CBS:
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or go to the CBS page:
Scheiffers commentary: http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/opinion/schieffer/main500158.shtml

1 posted on 05/31/2005 9:23:49 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: fight_truth_decay

cBS wouldn't know honor if it hit them up side a the head.


2 posted on 05/31/2005 9:26:30 AM PDT by George Smiley (This tagline deliberately targeted journalists.)
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To: George Smiley

Do we allow photographers and journalists at any other prison in the US ? We should never have allowed a peep out of this place.


3 posted on 05/31/2005 9:28:14 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: fight_truth_decay

He's a sanctimonious buzzard.


4 posted on 05/31/2005 9:29:02 AM PDT by Mi-kha-el ((There is no Pravda in Izvestiya and no Izvestiya in Pravda.))
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To: Mi-kha-el

And flagitious old fart.


5 posted on 05/31/2005 9:31:12 AM PDT by Mi-kha-el ((There is no Pravda in Izvestiya and no Izvestiya in Pravda.))
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To: fight_truth_decay

I have a better idea.

To save America's honor, "Just Shut Down" CBS and the New York Times!


6 posted on 05/31/2005 9:31:36 AM PDT by texasmountainman (proud father of a U.S. Marine)
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To: fight_truth_decay
CBS is replacing "Joan Of Arcadia" with "Ghost Whisperers".

CBS head Les Moonves said "I think talking to ghosts may skew younger than talking to God".

Flush CBS!

7 posted on 05/31/2005 9:31:51 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: Mi-kha-el

I'm all for closing it and sending the lot of them to turkey or some other ally to undergo torture and eventual execution while they rot away in a windowless pit.


8 posted on 05/31/2005 9:32:36 AM PDT by Nyboe ( if rich democrats really want the rich to be taxed more ... then by all means TAX RICH DEMOCRATS)
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To: fight_truth_decay; All

Plus .. at the DOJ website, you can find translations of manuals found in the apartments of arrested TERRORISTS - manuals which instructed them on how to MAKE UP STORIES ABOUT TORTURE IF THEY WERE ARRESTED.

For my money - and just plain old common sense - the complaints of torture are ALL MADE UP - and I don't believe any of it.

Sheiffer just continues to do what we already know .. the liberals are a bunch of cowards and if somebody says something bad about the USA - they are only too willing to believe it - instead of defending America.


9 posted on 05/31/2005 9:32:45 AM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: fight_truth_decay

I really don't care what the Arab world things as they are the cause of their own misery and suffering.


10 posted on 05/31/2005 9:32:51 AM PDT by thebaron512
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Do we allow photographers and journalists at any other prison in the US ?

If they were never allowed on or near these detainment facilities, they would just make it up..oh guess that is the same as "uncorroborated charges"..no that means it's fact; but can't be proven.

I get tired trying to think like the NYTimes or Newsweek or cBS. Dangerous reporting is what it boils down to.

11 posted on 05/31/2005 9:33:10 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: fight_truth_decay

To save America's honor, the liberal media must be closed.


12 posted on 05/31/2005 9:33:32 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: fight_truth_decay

I thought it was Newsweak & Izzi's lies that inflamed the Arab world resulting in 15 deaths?


13 posted on 05/31/2005 9:33:43 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: fight_truth_decay
Who is Bob Schieffer, and what part of killer non combatants who, while at Guantanamo, continue to swear they will kill us given the opportunity does he not understand?

Dragging the statue of Liberty into the discussion betrays either insanity or the ability to coherently connect ideas and concepts.

14 posted on 05/31/2005 9:33:56 AM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen, ignorance and stupidity.)
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To: thebaron512
really don't care what the Arab world things as they are the cause of their own misery and suffering

You better care as this kind of reporting costs the lives of Americans every day.

15 posted on 05/31/2005 9:34:30 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: fight_truth_decay; Fruitbat

"Until someone can explain to me how someone leaves a Vietnamese prison weighing significantly more than they did going in, McCain can kiss my glutes."



WORTH REPEATING!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1413510/posts?page=7#7


16 posted on 05/31/2005 9:35:57 AM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (SAVE THE BRAINFOREST! Boycott the RED Dead Tree Media & NUKE the DNC Class Action Temper Tantrum!)
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To: fight_truth_decay

The NYTimes constantly inflames the Arab world. It should be shut down.


17 posted on 05/31/2005 9:35:57 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: George Smiley

"Recalling how John McCain's "code of honor" is what "separated him from his captors" in communist North Vietnam"

That is why so many of his prisoner brothers stand beside him when he campaigns. HOW MANY? maybe ONE.
They all hate him.


18 posted on 05/31/2005 9:36:31 AM PDT by Lowell (The voice from beyond the edge!)
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To: thebaron512

Sorry did not mean to take your head off; agree but tend to disagree. How's that for a compromise?


19 posted on 05/31/2005 9:37:36 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: fight_truth_decay

Bob Schieffer is a dope. I don't know anyone who pay any attention to him.


20 posted on 05/31/2005 9:37:36 AM PDT by Tempestuous
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