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To: churchillbuff
Often sons and daughters join for the fringe benefits afterwards. Richer kids perhaps don't feel they need the military to help them get a start on life. In a way the military is a good thing for poorer people or those with limited opportunities. Most kids are probably too busy worrying about their sex life or God knows what. I don't know. I've never had the urge to join the military myself. Not one for conforming. That's just me.
14 posted on 06/03/2005 12:03:15 AM PDT by Lord Nelson
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To: Lord Nelson; All

Have been reading through this thread and the responses amaze me - hence my directing this present remark to all.

Let's get a grip here, freepers. Remember...

(A) this is the ny SLIMES reporting this.

(B) the above bird-cage liner sophisticatedly (is that even a word???) leaves the impression that no-one in Congress has familial representation in the war. That is simply Not True, and - as in a previous response I wrote to ChurchillBuff - their familial representation is proportionally larger than is that of the total US Population / current Military force correlation.

(C) As for the "rich kids don't fight; the poor have to" canard???? Again, another lie; with roots in the leftist media propaganda Big Lie born in Vietnam. 58000 dead in that war, 8,000 of them were officers (14%).

And this b/s about the poor joining up for the money? Does anyone here (who's not military...) know how much money a buck private makes? Trust me, it's not for the money.

More Lies...Blacks and Hispanics doing the dying, LBJ doing the lying??? That was as false 35 years ago as it is today. Most of our military in Vietnam were volunteers; ALL of our military today is volunteer. Ck out the below link for Vietnam casualties:

http://www.archives.gov/research_room/research_topics/vietnam_war_casualty_lists/statistics.html#race

The above even has a statistic showing selective service (ie: draftees) deaths as part of the total - 17,000 out of 58,000 total deaths, or 29 percent. Blacks? 7,000 deaths, or 12 percent. Total Negro representation was 14 percent, at a time when their proportion in our population was 11 percent. Caucasian (amongst which Hispanics were counted...) - 50,000 deaths, or 86 percent.

I could go on, but please remember... We Freepers have to remember that anything coming from the media about anything will always have a slant. Sometimes the charges are so onerous that it rightly (and quickly) gets our Irish up... most times, though, the lies are fed and repeated to us in measured tones, whispered asides in our ears, imprinted with such an obviously reasonable delivery that we let our guard down to their seductiveness until we ourselves become repeaters of the diluted propaganda quip. Like babies having their tummies rubbed to go asleep... or frogs in a pot of water being slowly heated to boil...

This is all very simple, clear as Night & Day. Never trust the fourth estate, for they are become the Fifth Column. Never, Ever, Ever, EVER take the word of someone whose foundation stone in-whatever-passes-muster-as-their relativistic Truth-of-the-moment is universally anchored in the belief that America is Always Wrong.


48 posted on 06/03/2005 1:54:34 AM PDT by CGVet58 (God has granted us Liberty, and we owe Him Courage in return)
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