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Volunteers Look for Missing Teen in Aruba
AP via UK Guardian ^ | Monday June 6, 2005 10:16 PM | MICHAEL NORTON

Posted on 06/06/2005 4:17:09 PM PDT by Lokibob

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To: injin
here's to all the nice American moms and dads that raise their children to be so 'color blind' to the point of not being able to exercise due caution when due caution is called for.

I agree. I posted on another thread about this idiocy. However, as I type, I recall that these guys are security guards at another hotel. Could they have used their position and maybe some official looking ID to get her to go with them?

Just a thought. My belief is it's either white slaving or she's dead. The fact that the security guards aren't quick to say they've got her stashed somewhere (in order to get a reduced sentence), but are not being cooperative, indicates to me that they are up to no good and are hoping (mistakenly) this all goes away if the police never find the body.

41 posted on 06/07/2005 9:22:32 AM PDT by radiohead (revote in washington state)
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To: injin

Very true. As one who has raised four daughters, I can say the years between 17 and 22 are the most dangerous. They feel they no longer need their mom's advice or their daddy's protection. Yet they are really very naive in the ways of the world.

I'm all for a return of the good old ways...they do not leave their father's house without permission, and then, only with a chaperone. Any man interested in them has to come to the father and ask permission to court his daughters.

The courtship is assumed to lead to a wedding within six months.

A marriage takes place only with the father's permission, after he has checked out the prospective fiance thoroughly
, and after the young man has proven his trustworthiness. The fiance must give documented proof that he can support the girl in the manner to which she is accustomed.

Ah, yes...dream on...those days are gone forever, much to the detriment of many a naive young girl.


42 posted on 06/07/2005 1:25:25 PM PDT by Palladin (God Bless America!)
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To: Palladin

I deeply respect these fine values you outline here sir, thank you for sharing them and good luck with your family. May only good things come to them .


43 posted on 06/07/2005 1:35:52 PM PDT by injin
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To: Lokibob; All
Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba

Monday Search Failed To Uncover Clues To Holloway's Disappearance

ORANJESTAD, Aruba -- Another family said they know exactly what the parents of Natalee Holloway, the Alabama teenager who has been missing in Aruba since last week, are going through. They've been dealing with the same nightmare for seven years.

The Bradleys, of Virginia, went on a cruise in 1998 and Aruba was one of the stops. That's where their daughter disappeared.

Iva Bradley said her 23-year-old daughter, Amy, befriended three men who worked on the cruise ship and they wanted to take her to a bar in Aruba.

"They said they wanted to take her to a bar on Aruba that was called Carlos and Charlie's," said Bradley. "She made a face and said 'I wouldn't get off the ship with any of those guys anyway. That's creepy.'"...

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Hmmmmmm....incident from seven years ago...and there is a tie-in with the same "Carlos and Charlie's" bar. Sounds like more than a coincidence to me.

44 posted on 06/07/2005 1:42:05 PM PDT by all4one (www.missingkids.com)
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To: all4one

Great catch! I hope a thorough investigation of Carlos and Charlie's will be done by our FBI.

Something stinks there.


45 posted on 06/07/2005 2:29:55 PM PDT by Palladin (God Bless America!)
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To: all4one

Carlos and Charlies is just THE PARTY PLACE, like Margaritaville is in other locations in the Caribbean.


46 posted on 06/07/2005 2:33:11 PM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: llama hunter
>hmmm, it is equally stupid going off with 3 white guys you just met at 2:00 am

In Michael Crichton's
non-fiction book "Travels," he
devotes a chapter

to people who do
bluntly self-destructive things
while on vacation.

(He gives examples
of smart, successful women
who've travelled with him.)

If I remember
correctly, Crichton didn't
come to conclusions

about why people
sometimes acted stupidly
on vacation, but

he advises folks
that it's such a common thing
you must be on guard.

47 posted on 06/07/2005 2:43:19 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: au eagle

My parents live in Alabama and my youngest sister had the unenviable experience of going through the Alabama public school system. Believe me, no matter what kind of income level you're in in Alabama, you don't know anything about the world outside the USA.

And shoes are for the cold weather.


48 posted on 06/07/2005 6:45:13 PM PDT by KateatRFM
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To: KateatRFM

I guess that's why a school in B'ham was named as the nation's best. There are many excellent schools in the state and many bad ones. I'm not defending the public school system in Alabama - I sent my children to private school (and no, it is not a "seg" academy). I was put off by your condescending attitude about us Alabamans having never been anywhere, certainly not out of the state. And, btw, your last post continues the trend. You paint with a very broad brush.


49 posted on 06/07/2005 8:42:32 PM PDT by au eagle
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To: all4one

Definately more than a coincidence! I have been doing some extensive research,(Investigating via internet) and this is my theory, The 5 subjects are obviously linked in the Holloway case, The bar "Carlos and Charli's' are linked in both the Bradley case in 1998, and the Holloway case now. Research proved that it is probable that their is an organized Sex slave network, which consists of "Luring or recruiting agents, Kidnappers, Brokers who buy girls, transit and shipping agents, which all play a part in human sex slave trafficking that is very popular in Venezuela, Brazil, Columbia, Trinidad, and many other places in close proximity of Aruba. After surfing - carribean sex slave trade, The evidence supporting my theory became very real.


50 posted on 06/07/2005 8:52:23 PM PDT by srhozey
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My thoughts are the same. We here in the U.S. are pretty sheltered with regard to the reality of the sex slave industry. Back in college and for a few years afterward, I would for a gov. alphabet agency. As a woman, it opened my eyes to a very dark underworld; which was unknown to me my family and friends in our sheltered suburban upbringing.

I think that our new ultra PC culture has further given naive Americans a distinct disadvantage with regard to their safety when travelling abroad. And there are enough predators who are looking to take advantage of our ability to disregard our personal safety. I also think that the "brokers" and kidnappers are working for those who are looking for a group of victims of a certain age and type....e.g. between 16 and 25....blonde.....American.

Sadly, tourists areas would rather chance a few "incidents" at their resorts, than give travellers warnings against this type of crime. After all, they wouldn't want to scare away the lucrative tourist industry.

51 posted on 06/08/2005 3:49:44 AM PDT by all4one (www.missingkids.com)
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To: au eagle
I was put off by your condescending attitude about us Alabamans having never been anywhere, certainly not out of the state.

I read the same thing about Georgia and Atlanta too. These threads bring out the biggest nuts.

Also, notice how many posts in these threads are in favor of "turning back the clock".

52 posted on 06/08/2005 10:11:21 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: llama hunter

Thinking you are right!
Many Columbian's in Aruba with easy excess back and forth to their country by boat or plane.
Check out the country highest on the list for American kidnapping.


54 posted on 06/21/2005 9:02:23 AM PDT by nohope4
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