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Kerry allows Navy release of military, medical records (Navy provided them to Boston Globe)
boston Globe ^ | June 7, 2005 | Michael Kranish

Posted on 06/06/2005 11:05:28 PM PDT by FairOpinion

Senator John F. Kerry, ending at least two years of refusal, has waived privacy restrictions and authorized the release of his full military and medical records.

The records, which the Navy Personnel Command provided to the Globe, are mostly a duplication of what Kerry released during his 2004 campaign for president, including numerous commendations from commanding officers who later criticized Kerry's Vietnam service.

The lack of any substantive new material about Kerry's military career in the documents raises the question of why Kerry refused for so long to waive privacy restrictions.

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


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To: Auntie Dem

well after all isn't that what Burkett was accusing Bush of doing, LOL..

but at least W has a honourable discharge and he can prove it too

and W served way more hours than he was supposed to, even with his campaign hiatus....

the other possibility is that under the Carter amnesty, the military records were expunged of certain documents

however it doesn't explain for example why Kerry lied and said he was honourably discharged in 1970 when he was campaigning in his first shot at office when his own records show he wasn't discharged until 1978

and it doesn't explain the NY Sun story about what a Harvard Admissions Committee member said about why Kerry didn't get into Harvard Law School

it also doesn't explain why all of Kerry's citations were amended on the day he got into the Senate or shortly thereafter...

the third citation of the one medal doesn't make sense it is practically unheard of and the ranking officer who allegedly signed it said he never signed that citation....
must have been a rubber stamp, literally....


21 posted on 06/06/2005 11:24:31 PM PDT by llama hunter
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To: llama hunter

Until everything is posted for full viewing, and he answers for what is missing,
Kerry has not signed the 180. This is an attempt to whitewash the issue when no one is looking.


22 posted on 06/06/2005 11:28:11 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: FairOpinion

I was just thinking the same thing. People in high places have all kinds of goons to do dirty work like changing documents and deleting things Lurch doesn't want anyone to know!


23 posted on 06/06/2005 11:30:13 PM PDT by Bush gal in LA
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To: Seaplaner

I was too lazy to register to read the story, otherwise I would have emailed Kranish and said what about the 100 documents the Navy said it couldn't release without Kerry's consent you got those too did you Mikey boy?


24 posted on 06/06/2005 11:30:37 PM PDT by llama hunter
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To: Kathy in Alaska; Fawnn; bentfeather; HiJinx; tomkow6; Radix; Spotsy; doug from upland
Swifties ping
25 posted on 06/06/2005 11:31:32 PM PDT by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants_"Where there is life, there is hope"..Terri Schindler)
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To: FairOpinion

They aren't looking close enough. He sent it to the Globe, are they really going to look closely??


26 posted on 06/06/2005 11:33:28 PM PDT by dila813
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To: FairOpinion

Translation: "Secure in the knowldge that his Navy records have been scrubbed and doctored to satisfaction..."


27 posted on 06/06/2005 11:33:33 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: llama hunter; Nathan Zachary
Note that he allowed to have his records released ONLY TO THE BOSTON GLOBE, NOT the general public.

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On May 20, Kerry signed a document called Standard Form 180, authorizing the Navy to send an ''undeleted" copy of his ''complete military service record and medical record" to the Globe.

28 posted on 06/06/2005 11:33:35 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion

"The file includes a previously reported reference to Kerry being treated for the wound and that he was awarded the Purple Heart, but it does not address the details of the combat that night. No after-action report for the incident has been found."

Let's tighten that baby up a bit:

"The file includes a...reference to Kerry being treated... t...o...the Purple Heart...but...no...combat...action...has been found."

There, that's better.

I'll buy that this is his 'complete file' right after he issues a 'complete explanation' of why it took him months to sign the 180. This is more redacted horse manure.


29 posted on 06/06/2005 11:35:18 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (<-- sick of faux-conservatives who want federal government intervention for 'conservative things.')
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To: llama hunter

the theory works for me, that Kerry was less than honourably discharged for his actions, going to Paris and negotiating with the enemy when he was still a commissioned officer and of course without authorization from the US government

he deserved greater punishment, his behaviour was arguably treasonous, but Nixon likely didn't want to make Kerry a martyr

there was some speculation too that a LHD precludes one from holding office as well....

Kerry got lucky with the Carter amnesty


30 posted on 06/06/2005 11:35:20 PM PDT by llama hunter
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To: FairOpinion
Isn't the whole nature of this, denying the public the truth of
the medals he bragged about during the 2004 campaign?

If he was truthful, then what's the problem?

31 posted on 06/06/2005 11:35:26 PM PDT by MaxMax (GOD BLESS AMERICA)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

"....are mostly a duplication"

Look close my friends, I am sure they don't want you to look because the election is over. But it is there in front of our faces, we just need to realize it.


32 posted on 06/06/2005 11:37:41 PM PDT by dila813
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To: llama hunter

I also remember right before the election that someone who worked with or under Kerry in the Navy was going to spill the beans on Kerry on Free Republic, the suggestion was this person either knew personally or worked under a Navy commander who knew that Kerry was less than honourably discharged but couldn't say anything unless Kerry consented or he would be breaking the law, and the Swift Boat Vets told him to stand down anyway

the lefties wouldn't have gotten the significance anyway


33 posted on 06/06/2005 11:38:37 PM PDT by llama hunter
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To: Chieftain; oldglory; MinuteGal; gonzo; JulieRNR21; sheikdetailfeather; moonman; uncleshag
ping
34 posted on 06/06/2005 11:42:02 PM PDT by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants_"Where there is life, there is hope"..Terri Schindler)
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To: llama hunter

You don't need to register to read the Boston Globe.
I never registered and it comes up fine.

Try it.


35 posted on 06/06/2005 11:46:36 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: MJY1288
''The call for me to sign a 180 form came from the same partisan operatives who were lying about my record on a daily basis on the Web and in the right-wing media. Even though the media was discrediting them, they continued to lie. I felt strongly that we shouldn't kowtow to them and their attempts to drag their lies out."

Is that a "I didn't want to give them what they wanted before I did give them what they wanted" answer?

36 posted on 06/06/2005 11:49:16 PM PDT by Howlin (Up or down on Janice Brown!)
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To: dila813

sorry there were 100 documents the Navy acknowledged it couldn't release without Kerry's consent - the Navy otherwise told Judicial Watch that a big chunk of the record Kerry already had posted on his website [how many documents did Kerry post on his website, not 100, that's for sure] but there was another 10 or 20 documents Judicial Watch did obtain that was not on Kerry's website, at least some of those documents involved one of the medal incidents and the NY Sun reported that the documents seemed to proved that one of Kerry's band of brothers who claimed he was present during one of the events where Kerry got a medal, I can no longer recall which one, according to the documents it would have been improbable he was there, the man was apparently listed as being in the hospital or on leave or some such thing at the very time this incident took place, naturaly no one in the MSM hiccuped at the NY Sun story but try to flush a Koran down the tiolet and whoa!!!!


37 posted on 06/06/2005 11:49:58 PM PDT by llama hunter
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To: FairOpinion

For example, the documents quote Kerry's former commanding officers as saying he is ''one of the finest young officers with whom I have served;" is ''the acknowledged leader of his peer group;" and is ''highly recommended for promotion."


Sory folks, but anybody that took any stock in these statements needs to know that these are generic statements make on virtually all performance evaluations.
Promote at soonest, promote ahead of peers, fine young officer, et al.


38 posted on 06/06/2005 11:51:25 PM PDT by conshack ((Illegal immigration is the #1 threat to Homeland Security))
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To: llama hunter
Understanding the nature of the press today?,
I doubt that anybody would stand up against the leftist-media
for truth and justice, without a total biased dissemination of family genetics.

Not including every family member before 1776 "of course".

39 posted on 06/06/2005 11:53:07 PM PDT by MaxMax (GOD BLESS AMERICA)
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To: llama hunter
Yes, but to the newspaper they look like duplications. Because they weren't in the Military.

We all know what a service jacket looks like, they don't. Many of the pages appear to be duplicate information, but we know what they really mean.

If we see those pages, we will know.
40 posted on 06/06/2005 11:53:30 PM PDT by dila813
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