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2 Boys Injured In Brit Mishaps
Ynetnews ^ | June 8, 2005 | Raanan Ben-Zur

Posted on 06/08/2005 10:32:29 AM PDT by Cecily

PETAH TIKVA - Two children were rushed to Schneider Hospital Tuesday following complications from their brit milah (circumcision) ceremonies.

The first case took place Tuesday, when a mohel (ritual circumciser) apparently cut the child’s penis too deeply, causing blood to gush out. The mohel then tried for half an hour to stop the bleeding, without success. Finally, an ambulance was called.

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To: 68 grunt

But men are not really mutilated (defined as maimed beyond repair) and still function normally in all respects (sexual, urological) after circumcision. That is not the case for females, who truly are mutilated and maimed.


21 posted on 06/08/2005 11:25:45 AM PDT by Cecily
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To: Cecily

The woman is still functional after her clitoris and clitoral hood are removed. She simply receives less stimulation from the penetration. Same with men.


22 posted on 06/08/2005 11:27:22 AM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: Cecily

I heard of a mohel who used pinking shears. He said it kept the finished product from unraveling...


23 posted on 06/08/2005 11:27:42 AM PDT by Exeter (If Life gives you lemons, just shut up and eat the damn lemons!)
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To: Cecily
I thought it was called a BRIS Milah.

I'd normally ascribe that to a typo, but the article repeated the mistake.

24 posted on 06/08/2005 11:30:42 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The Republican Party is the France of politics.)
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To: 68 grunt
Circumcision is exactly the same a female genitalia mutilation. Religious perversion; ritualized sadism; the act of bitter, envious people. A sick plague volunteered upon mankind by another perversion of religion. Bah!

I'll thank you not to call Judiasm a perversion of religion.

And, while we're at it, not to call a physical symbol of the Covenant a sick plague.

25 posted on 06/08/2005 11:35:24 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The Republican Party is the France of politics.)
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To: Lazamataz

The Sephardic pronounciation/spelling of Hebrew is used in Israel. Bris is the Ashkenazi version of brit.


26 posted on 06/08/2005 11:38:04 AM PDT by Cecily
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To: 68 grunt

I should have mentioned that the removal of the labia and labia majoris also don't effect the woman's ability to conceive, nor does the whole package removal interrupt the urinary function. Serves the same function as circumcision, removing (some of) the joy from sex. Friggin' pre-historical sick bastards.


27 posted on 06/08/2005 11:38:10 AM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: Lazamataz

Don't thank me, I don't care.


28 posted on 06/08/2005 11:38:54 AM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: Cecily

Gotchya. I'm Russian Jew, so of course I would pronounce it in the Ashkenazi manner.


29 posted on 06/08/2005 11:39:31 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The Republican Party is the France of politics.)
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To: 68 grunt
Don't thank me, I don't care.

No, I'll just bear it in mind that you are a true Anti-semite.

30 posted on 06/08/2005 11:40:34 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The Republican Party is the France of politics.)
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To: Lazamataz

If opposition to archaic and sadistic rituals makes me an anti-semite, oh well, its a cross I'll have to bare.


31 posted on 06/08/2005 11:42:59 AM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: 68 grunt

Is her urinary function the same? I have read that women usually end up with all kinds of chronic infections and functional problems.


32 posted on 06/08/2005 11:43:05 AM PDT by Cecily
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To: Cecily

I feel sorry for for both the little guy and the mohel...but I still have to wonder whether the mohel was chanting "I choppy-choppy you pee-pee, ha ha ha ha!..." in Hebrew.


33 posted on 06/08/2005 11:45:33 AM PDT by RichInOC (Rich's Undeniable Truth of the Day: A meat cleaver is not a proper circumcision knife.)
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To: 68 grunt
Oppose the Mitzvah of the Bris all you want. But you also called Judaism a peversion of religion. For that, you are correctly labeled a severe anti-semite.

Revel in your bigotry. Roll around in it a while. Enjoy the stink of your hate.

34 posted on 06/08/2005 11:45:34 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The Republican Party is the France of politics.)
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To: Cecily

Its easy to google. Tons on info on the various procedures, too graphic for the forum. What did they call the clitoral removal? Hysteric circumcision?


35 posted on 06/08/2005 11:46:09 AM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: 68 grunt
Sorry, paranoic circumcision.
36 posted on 06/08/2005 11:47:07 AM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: Lazamataz

You're mistaken in your condemnation. Typical. You took my words out of context and preverted them. Whadda coinkydink.


37 posted on 06/08/2005 11:49:06 AM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: Cecily

Not affected by circ?

Then how come the USA with the largest circ'd population is pretty much the sole consumer of erectile dysfucntion drugs like Viagra?

I recall when Viagra had its spectacular release in the US, the company planned for the global roll-out based on the US response.

When it floundered the British press illuminated the uncut populations had less problems getting aroused - This news was never published in the US - Too many questions would arise and possibly undermine the american popular misconceptions about circumcision.

With that in mind, the Viagra gang jumped on board in pushing a pro-circ agenda along with the existing profiteers - the companies that make the cirucmcision tools and equipment, the doctor who makes money from performing the circ and from selling the skin to the companies that grow skin grafts from harvested foreskins, who in turn make money selling the skin graft material....

Circ will be around in the US for a long time to come.

Now don't get all mad at me, I'm cut and favor cutting all males at birth - though I know I feel this way based on my own penis and my american cultural bias. I won't bother rationalizing or engaging anyone on circ's merits or detriments. Too emotional for most.

As a Christian I have always wondered if Paul had it wrong when he pushed for not cutting initiates to early Christianity. On one level it may explain America's fantastic world wide success over the rest of the world in the last 50 years (Strong Christian culture and majority cut in US since the 40's)


38 posted on 06/08/2005 11:51:55 AM PDT by LieFreeGov
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To: 68 grunt

So what is it that you called a perversion of religion?


39 posted on 06/08/2005 11:52:01 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The Republican Party is the France of politics.)
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To: Lazamataz
So what is it that you called a perversion of religion?Well, my opposition to the Mitzvah of the Bris, of course! Judaism is otherwise pretty cool with me.
40 posted on 06/08/2005 11:54:55 AM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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