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[Columbus, OH]Police May Buy M16-Style Rifles
ONN (Ohio News Network) ^ | 6/15/05 | n/a

Posted on 06/15/2005 9:41:06 AM PDT by kiriath_jearim

June 15, 2005

Columbus

Police May Buy M16-Style Rifles

Columbus Police may get a high-caliber addition to their arsenal.

The Columbus Police Department has a proposal pending to acquire semi-automatic rifles similar to the M16 through a federal government program. The division’s ordnance unit is suggesting the weapons purchase.

The initial cost would be around $7,000, plus training and ammunition.

The reason police are considering the purchase is simple: to counter the firepower they sometimes face on the street - rifles with ranges of 600 to 800 meters.

“Handguns were originally designed for close range personal defense,” Officer John Holloway explained.

Right now shotguns are the best weapons patrol officers have to combat rifles, Officer Holloway says with concern.

“We would have to get very close to an individual armed with a rifle and put ourselves in extreme jeopardy.”

Holloway says giving officers access to semi-automatic rifles could be crucial in some cases.

“If we get a terrorist-type situation, we as first line responders… as patrol officers would be able to deal with that effectively by having M16-style weapons,” Holloway contends.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: banglist; columbus; ohio; weapons
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1 posted on 06/15/2005 9:41:07 AM PDT by kiriath_jearim
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To: kiriath_jearim
The reason police are considering the purchase is simple: to counter the firepower they sometimes face on the street - rifles with ranges of 600 to 800 meters

M-16 meet FN FAL or FN 49. Who will win? Of course no one should deprive the cops of their toys while they deny us ours.

2 posted on 06/15/2005 9:44:42 AM PDT by beltfed308 (Cloth or link. Happiness is a perfect trunion.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

But they are only good for killing people indiscriminately!!! Good thing our police officers can now spray us from the hip and kill us all with more thrust per squeeze /sarcasm


3 posted on 06/15/2005 9:45:12 AM PDT by boofus
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To: kiriath_jearim

.223 is a "high caliber"?


4 posted on 06/15/2005 9:46:08 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: SJSAMPLE
.223 is a "high caliber"?

Yeah - struck me too.
They always give the gun stories to the most firearm-ignorant people on the staff, it seems.
I'm sure they meant "High Power"...

5 posted on 06/15/2005 9:49:26 AM PDT by grobdriver (Let the embeds check the bodies!)
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To: kiriath_jearim
Maybe instad of spending 7 grand on M16's, they should take that money and spend it on shutting down the borders.

Take away the threat by stopping them at the border first instead of fighting them on our streets.

6 posted on 06/15/2005 9:51:20 AM PDT by Radioactive (I'm on the radio..so I'm radioactive)
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To: kiriath_jearim

>The reason police are considering the purchase is simple: to counter the firepower they sometimes face on the street - rifles with ranges of 600 to 800 meters. <

Gangbangers are now using long range snipers? Who knew?


7 posted on 06/15/2005 9:51:58 AM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: SJSAMPLE
.223 is a "high caliber"?

That's what I thought when Uncle Sam handed me one of those things. I wondered if the Army was serious about killing men with a squirrel gun. Unfortunately, they were.

8 posted on 06/15/2005 9:54:44 AM PDT by elbucko
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To: kiriath_jearim
&#8220;If we get a terrorist-type situation, we as first line responders&#8230;

Curious. That is the same reasoning some of the Founders used when referring to the citizen militia and protecting our Right to do so with the Second Amendment.

9 posted on 06/15/2005 10:00:17 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Never underestimate the will of the downtrodden to lie flatter.)
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To: elbucko

NO shit. They would be better off with some "ancient" M-14's for real killing power. Trouble is, they would have to learn to shoot rather than spray and pray.


10 posted on 06/15/2005 10:00:21 AM PDT by WilliamWallace1999
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To: SJSAMPLE

Yep, too damn small to deer hunt with, but way too dangerous for us reg'lur folks.


11 posted on 06/15/2005 10:02:09 AM PDT by WilliamWallace1999
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To: elbucko
I shoot sub-1" groups @ 200yrds with my DPMS. Not too shabby for a "squirrel gun". Currently saving up for a Bluegrass Armory Viper before they are outlawed.
12 posted on 06/15/2005 10:03:50 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Never underestimate the will of the downtrodden to lie flatter.)
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To: boofus

hahahaha


13 posted on 06/15/2005 10:04:27 AM PDT by xrp (Fox News Channel should rename itself the Missing Persons Network)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Can they name one actual instance where they would need to shoot at someone 800 meters away from them?


14 posted on 06/15/2005 10:06:47 AM PDT by CSM ( If the government has taken your money, it has fulfilled its Social Security promises. (dufekin))
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To: WilliamWallace1999
Short range. High Power. .50 AE Sledgehammer.

Yeah... I want one of those too.

15 posted on 06/15/2005 10:07:17 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Never underestimate the will of the downtrodden to lie flatter.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

I hope the first innocent victim of a stray bullet from one sues their pants off.

If they need extra range occasionally, I could see a bolt-action but this will just encourage carelessness.


16 posted on 06/15/2005 10:09:38 AM PDT by Ford4000
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To: kiriath_jearim
The Columbus Police Department has a proposal pending to acquire semi-automatic rifles similar to the M16 through a federal government program.

Hmm... Civilian Marksmanship Program, perhaps? I believe they have AR-15s for "club" purchase.

17 posted on 06/15/2005 10:11:21 AM PDT by Charles Martel
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To: kiriath_jearim
"The reason police are considering the purchase is simple: to counter the firepower they sometimes face on the street - rifles with ranges of 600 to 800 meters."

Must be a spacious city to have clear fields of fire 600 to 800 meters long. Their policemen must have good eyesight to identify targets at that range. In that case a Remington 700 with a good scope would be the rifle of choice.

The references to .223 as being "high caliber" is mystifying. If I'm not mistaken it is not legal to hunt deer in some states with this varmint cartridge...out of concern that deer will be merely wounded. If it is not going to kill a 90 pound deer I don't think that I'd stake my life on it. Of course, in the military there are some mitigating factors: the preference to injure the enemy and thus tie up their troops in caring for wounded, and the possibility of multiple hits from automatic fire making up for a wimpy cartridge. In a law enforcement situation I'm not sure either of those would hold true. Only advantage would be that it might be marginally safer in that a miss would be less likely to penetrate a brick wall, etc., and strike a bystander. Still, if they want a low power semi-auto they could go with Mini-14's and save a lot of money.
18 posted on 06/15/2005 10:13:26 AM PDT by WmDonovan (http://www.geocities.com/thelawndaletimes)
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To: beltfed308

Many Police Departments get used M-16s from their National Guard armories. Since they will spend most of their time riding around in the trunk of a squad car it doesn't matter that they're used.

I'd also trust a 3 round burst mode to spray and pray cops than a full auto weapon.


19 posted on 06/15/2005 10:16:42 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: WilliamWallace1999
They would be better off with some "ancient" M-14's for real killing power.

Definitely. But the M-16, since it's adoption by the army, has been a "little (physically) persons" weapon. The South Vietnamese soldiers hated the M-14 because of its recoil. Since US police Depts and the Military are now unisex, women and their small bodies and hands need to be accommodated. What is even more disappointing to me, is that so many men (and women) now enter the military and police forces with absolutely no firearms training from Dad or grandad. A 5.65mm rifle or a 9mm pistol is about all that they can handle.

20 posted on 06/15/2005 10:20:40 AM PDT by elbucko
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