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Build More Nuclear Power Plants, Bush Says
CNSNews ^ | 6/22/05 | Susan Jones

Posted on 06/22/2005 9:56:33 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection

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To: biblewonk
I'm joining the green party.

I hope you reconsider. You're better than any of those commie scum.

61 posted on 06/22/2005 12:42:17 PM PDT by Freebird Forever (Imagine if islam controlled the internet.)
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To: biblewonk

Wind farms have relativley little space efficiency, produce little power, and cost a fortune to contruct in comparison to nuclear power plants. One windmill takes about 40'x40' suare of land and is about 30 feet deep filled with concrete and steel.


62 posted on 06/22/2005 12:43:08 PM PDT by m1-lightning (God, Guns, and Country!)
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To: verity

Can we use enviro-weenies as an alternate source of fuel?

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Nah...they'd probably be found to pollute the atmosphere. *Snicker*


63 posted on 06/22/2005 12:43:56 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: KC_for_Freedom; All
I can see your point of view. In my posts I've even conceded there may be a use for nuclear as a quick fix in the short term. But give this article a peak and tell me if you can see it from my point of view as well :

With further advances, the new plastic "could allow up to 30 percent of the sun's radiant energy to be harnessed, compared to 6 percent in today's best plastic solar cells," said Peter Peumans, a Stanford University electrical engineering professor, who studied the work.

Going from 6 percent to 30 percent efficiency in solar cells would allow a solar roof on your home to provide all the energy you need to live your current lifestyle with your current demand for electricity without an electric bill, dependence on oil, or pollution. No more RV'ing it. Furthermore, the system is decentralized -- no more rolling blackouts or city-wide natural power-outages or easy targets for aggressors. It will probably not, however, have the capability to meet industrial demand.

I'm not advocating the abandonment of all nuclear programs. (I'm more of a realist than idealist.) What I do advocate is not going gung-ho and throwing up another 100 power plants while cutting the funding for alternative programs like solar. Build a few power plants in key areas where we get the biggest bang for the buck. Use them and the threat of building more as leverage to oil prices. And continue putting money into R&D for better long term strategies.
64 posted on 06/22/2005 12:46:13 PM PDT by so_real ("The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: m1-lightning
Safe disposal has been all talk and little do for as far back as I can recall. Maybe the "Safe Storage of Radiological Materials Act of 2005" bill will tip the scales in the right direction (to my knowledge it has not passed Congress yet, has it?). Maybe it's just more talk never to become action. The proof will be in the pudding and I hope your optimism is justified.
65 posted on 06/22/2005 1:07:15 PM PDT by so_real ("The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: so_real

The reason there is no plan of safe disposal and that we don't do what every other Nuclear naton does: reprocess spent fuel ad infinitum, is that we are planning to put this spent fuel into Nuclear weapons [some day]. Get it?


66 posted on 06/22/2005 1:13:25 PM PDT by kharaku (G3)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

I think they have more nuclear plants in france than we have in the entire country. I wonder what the percentage of power is produced by nuclear plants over there. The libs seem to think the french are just the thing, maybe this will shut them up.


67 posted on 06/22/2005 1:16:53 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: so_real
Maybe the "Safe Storage of Radiological Materials Act of 2005" bill will tip the scales in the right direction

That and much more is outlined in the energy bill (HR 6).

68 posted on 06/22/2005 1:17:28 PM PDT by m1-lightning (God, Guns, and Country!)
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To: McGavin999

I am not going to take the time to explain but nuclear power is our future. If it were not a safe alternative the liberals would not be whining.


69 posted on 06/22/2005 1:19:28 PM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection (http://hour9.blogspot.com/)
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To: so_real
Go to this site and read about the new generation of reactors being designed. They are far different than 3-Mile and of more variety.

http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/inf08.htm

70 posted on 06/22/2005 1:20:40 PM PDT by muleskinner
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Oh, I agree. My comment was about shutting up the lib whiners.


71 posted on 06/22/2005 1:20:59 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: McGavin999
I think they have more nuclear plants in france than we have in the entire country. I wonder what the percentage of power is produced by nuclear plants over there.

Nuclear power makes up 75% of France's electricity. The most powerful nuke plant in the world is in Chooz, France at 1.5 Gigawatts.

72 posted on 06/22/2005 1:24:18 PM PDT by m1-lightning (God, Guns, and Country!)
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To: Freebird Forever
I hope you reconsider. You're better than any of those commie scum.

OK, I don't really know much about them and that's a much nicer thing to say than what one often hears here. I really really don't want to see us go nuke as our energy policy and there doesn't seem to be much I can do as an individual voter.

73 posted on 06/22/2005 1:26:09 PM PDT by biblewonk (Yes I think I am a bible worshipper.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Finally!

We're now about 35 years behind the "power curve" so to speak!

Build, build, build!

74 posted on 06/22/2005 1:27:17 PM PDT by LilDarlin (Being very feminine got me this far; it will get me the rest of the way, too!)
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To: m1-lightning
The most powerful nuke plant in the world is in Chooz, France at 1.5 Gigawatts.

1.5 Gigawatts!!!!!!!!!!!! Back to the future!

75 posted on 06/22/2005 1:28:30 PM PDT by LilDarlin (Being very feminine got me this far; it will get me the rest of the way, too!)
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To: biblewonk
NO WAY!!!!!!!

I'm joining the green party.

Did you leave out a sarcasm tag?

If not...what the hell is going on with this place?

76 posted on 06/22/2005 1:28:48 PM PDT by BureaucratusMaximus (Socialists are blessed with the desire to serve others. That's why most of them work @ McDonalds)
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To: biblewonk

The green party is more proactive about redistribution of wealth than they are about the environment. 'Green' relates to money, not grass.


77 posted on 06/22/2005 1:29:17 PM PDT by m1-lightning (God, Guns, and Country!)
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To: m1-lightning
Wind farms have relativley little space efficiency, produce little power, and cost a fortune to contruct in comparison to nuclear power plants. One windmill takes about 40'x40' suare of land and is about 30 feet deep filled with concrete and steel.

That 40 x 40 pays a farmer a lot more than 40 x 40 feet of corn without harming the productivity of the other 100 acres of the farmers land. So where is the problem? The cost per kwhr between wind and nuke is getting closer and closer. Do you have any ideas on how much the two are becasue the term "fortune" is a bit vague?

78 posted on 06/22/2005 1:30:59 PM PDT by biblewonk (Yes I think I am a bible worshipper.)
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To: kharaku

It's stored in mountains though. It's nasty when it's processed, nasty when is transported, nasty when it's used, and nasty when it's transported to the mountain, and nasty for thousands of years within the mountain. Most people are simply not willing to take on faith that it's all safe and OK.


79 posted on 06/22/2005 1:33:58 PM PDT by biblewonk (Yes I think I am a bible worshipper.)
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To: BureaucratusMaximus
If not...what the hell is going on with this place?

You believe all conservatives are pro nuke? What a strange thing to think.

80 posted on 06/22/2005 1:34:45 PM PDT by biblewonk (Yes I think I am a bible worshipper.)
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