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To: LibertarianInExile; Mrs. Don-o

"What you want is to uphold your version of morality in LAW"

Once again, all law and government are nothing more or less than the codification of the moral vision of those who make the laws.

Mrs. Don-o is every bit as entitled to lobby and vote for the sorts of laws she wants as everyone else.

"never mind the actual negative social consequences of that illegality or its inability to effect any positive change towards your perception of good."

The problem with that argument is that history has repeatedly demonstrated the positive effects of traditional morality and the ability of laws that support it to effect positive change. That much is simply not a matter of opinion, but fact repeatedly proved.


191 posted on 06/26/2005 8:56:09 PM PDT by dsc
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To: dsc

"The problem with that argument is that history has repeatedly demonstrated the positive effects of traditional morality"

No argument up to here...

"and the ability of laws that support it to effect positive change. That much is simply not a matter of opinion, but fact repeatedly proved."

Traditionally, women weren't even able to determine who they would marry. Is this the 'traditional morality' you espouse? Merely asserting that 'it isn't a matter of opinion' doesn't make it a fact. Were your assertion true, that laws supporting 'traditional morality' do effect positive change, Islamic countries would LEAD the West. There is no more representative class of countries legislating the "traditional morality" of the world, whence myriad abominations were damned by death sentences and women were kept barefoot and ignorant. Argue your point with a mullah, and you'll learn your thesis has nothing backing it up beyond your faith in its veracity and your evident belief that 'traditional morality' started after the feminist movement was launched.


192 posted on 06/26/2005 10:39:02 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile ("Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist." -- John Adams. "F that." -- SCOTUS, in Kelo.)
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