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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 6
Various News Outlets | 07/08/05

Posted on 07/08/2005 10:16:50 AM PDT by TexKat

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To: Dark Skies
I will send an email to Greta right now.

Thanks. I still can't believe van der staaten wasn't removed from the entire investigation from the start, if only for conflict of interests purposes.

If they dare let these guys skate, they will rue the day because there will be a tremendous backlash once the family tells all they know. Beth is keeping a journal and I'm sure Tim Miller has many examples of uncooperation & sabotage from the 'authorities', etc. that he can expose. If these blockheads think we'll lose interest in this case the longer they drag it out, they're wrong.
1,781 posted on 07/13/2005 6:19:52 AM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)
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To: demkicker
I just sent the following to Greta regarding the Natalee Holloway case:

Greta:

Great job. It is a relief to have you on the case.

Would you consider getting Jan Van Der Straaten to speak on the air as to why he refuses to permit a search of his good friend's (Paul Van Der Sloot's) property by cadaver sniffing dogs. And, indeed, why not inquire if the police commissioner has considered recusing himself from this case considering his relationship with Mr. Van Der Sloot.

Greta can be reached at her blog on the Fox News Web site.

Click here for Greta's Blog

1,782 posted on 07/13/2005 6:26:42 AM PDT by Dark Skies (All Muslims aren't evil...just the real ones.)
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To: Quilla

Your welcome Quilla. If I were not retired from my career I would select my team's personnel from the Free Republic site.

There are many sharp freepers, to include yourself and many have, "got it together" as to investgative knowledge and reasoning. NSNR


1,783 posted on 07/13/2005 6:33:49 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: TexKat

Wow. I hope they've got something good that will tie back to the VDS family. Why can't the VDS property be searched again? Is someone blocking the warrant? The son is in custody, so ... doesn't it follow they would be able to examine the well and bring cadaver dogs?

Landry Fan


1,784 posted on 07/13/2005 6:35:33 AM PDT by Landry Fan (God Bless The Gipper)
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To: No Surrender No Retreat
Damn good point. To catch a criminal you've got to think like one. I also wonder if PVDS is an avid chess player. For one to be a good chess player, one must be able to think several moves ahead and what the consequences of each move and counter-move would be.
I also think your point about the Fishermen's huts is dead on.
Go get yourself a cold-one you've earned it.
TAW
1,785 posted on 07/13/2005 6:39:29 AM PDT by Malichi
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To: GarySpFc

I can hear the police commissioner telling Miller that not to worry, they have the stuff for prosecution. Then once Miller and the press leave, release Joran and it is over.


1,786 posted on 07/13/2005 6:40:05 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: Landry Fan

If I were Equus Search, I would mosey on over there, accidentally let the doggies go and see what happened. i understand from last nite that if these dogs are off leash, they will roam and find bodies. Amazing. They respond to old bodies. So if you murder someone {haven't we all!}, bury them in a cemetary. The dogs can't work there.


1,787 posted on 07/13/2005 6:43:47 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: No Surrender No Retreat

This is also the case with ASHLEY POND and MIRANDA GADDIS. Authorities recovered Ashley from a barrel buried under concrete in Ward Weaver's yard. The body Miranda Gaddis was found in a backyard shed.

And, JESSICA LUNSFORD's body was discovered wrapped in plastic garbage bags in a shallow grave on the property where John Couey was staying.


1,788 posted on 07/13/2005 6:52:04 AM PDT by maggief
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To: cajungirl

Send John Kerry to give a speech. While the audience snores, send in the Marines to the VDS property.


1,789 posted on 07/13/2005 6:52:45 AM PDT by Landry Fan (God Bless The Gipper)
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To: maggief; Landry Fan

Yeah, some murderers keep the corpse in their freezer.

Here is a post from SM,,take it for what it is worth.

Good Morning Fellow Monkeys! I've been lurking for a while and wanted to make a comment. On another thread, not a pleasant one, a poster from Aruba alluded to the fact that most people on the island knew what happened to Natalee, however, they are resentful of the "American intrusion" and when the Americans are gone the case will be solved. This poster seemed rather beligerant towards the entire situation. Also, from my own perspective, I feel there may be Aruba residents that may know a lot more about the case, but are afraid to come forward for fear of being "detained".
_________________


1,790 posted on 07/13/2005 6:54:42 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: cajungirl

If Urine does get released, he would be wise to disappear, FOREVER! His life isn't worth two pesos now.


1,791 posted on 07/13/2005 6:54:45 AM PDT by MAWG (Diversity is where everyone looks different but thinks the same way.)
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To: cajungirl; maggief

I thought that it's more likely that twisted serial murderers and child molesters keep bodies in the freezer. I think in this case he/they [VDS family] would want to get the body as far away from their property as possible. Didn't JVDS suppose he might be a suspect since he was last seen with Natalee?

This is so sad.


1,792 posted on 07/13/2005 7:11:40 AM PDT by Landry Fan (God Bless The Gipper)
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To: cajungirl


http://newsroom.eworldwire.com/view_release.php?id=12239


1,793 posted on 07/13/2005 7:13:20 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: No Surrender No Retreat
John Wayne Gacy used this concept of concealment and was finally caught.

That reminds me of the guy in PA, Ira Einhorn, who murdered his girlfriend, then stuffed her body in a trunk, put it in the closet of the apartment, and sealed up the closet, where she was found some time later.

He escaped to Europe where he lived quite well for nearly 20 years, after Arlen Specter in private practice at the time, got reduced bail for him.

link to article about that

So yes, criminal minds often think the rest of us won't ever figure them out!

1,794 posted on 07/13/2005 7:17:44 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

Thanks, I couldn't get the link to copy. But I am ignorant of the finer points of computers.


1,795 posted on 07/13/2005 7:19:01 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: cajungirl
Your link to your post #1760.Is Aruba's Government Covering Up Again
1,796 posted on 07/13/2005 7:24:20 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Jrabbit
So, the question of wether the yard had been searched or not is most likely no?

It really bugs me when guests on the tv shows say that the VDS house has been searched, as one of them did again last night.

Well, yes, the "Polis" DID bring out bags and bags of "evidence" from that house as someone said -- but those cadaver dogs have not been there, from what I understand.

1,797 posted on 07/13/2005 7:24:28 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: Landry Fan

LOL! That should do it alright.


1,798 posted on 07/13/2005 7:25:31 AM PDT by truthluva ("Courage is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: Dark Skies

Thanks, DS. I'll have to write her later. Company coming to town and have a million errands to run.


1,799 posted on 07/13/2005 7:30:28 AM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)
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To: the Deejay; Jrabbit

Oh. The article I read seemed like they were dismissing it as a hoax, noting that they 'thought' it was placed there 'after' they had investigated/searched the home.

Who knows what was REALLY said? I trust FOX more than the other MSM, but still...ever play that game where the first person whispers something and on down the line the last person's version is nothing like what began...?


1,800 posted on 07/13/2005 7:34:14 AM PDT by Froufrou (Froufrou Loves The Spurs!)
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