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Interview with a Terrorist
Times Online ^ | 7/14/2005 | Nasra Hassan

Posted on 07/15/2005 1:03:54 AM PDT by WaveMan

Are you ready? Tomorrow you will be in Paradise . . . Nasra Hassan What motivates a suicide bomber? Our correspondent talks to a young Muslim who survived his intended 'martyrdom' and describes the terrorists' rigorous training

AT DAWN, when the three men heard the morning call to prayer from a mosque in the village below their hideout in the hills, they knelt and uttered the traditional invocation to Allah that Muslim warriors make before setting off for combat. They put on clean clothes, tucked the Koran into their pockets, and began the long hike over the hills and along dry riverbeds to the outskirts of Jerusalem. In the Palestinian neighbourhoods of East Jerusalem, they walked in silence so that their accents, the guttural vernacular of Gaza, would not arouse suspicion. It was June 1993, and they were members of the Palestinian fundamentalist group Hamas. Along the way, they stopped to pray at every mosque. At dusk, they boarded a bus that was heading toward West Jerusalem, filled with Israeli passengers. When the driver thwarted their attempt to hijack the vehicle, they tried to detonate the homemade bombs they were carrying.

The bombs failed to go off, so they pulled out guns and began firing wildly. The shots injured five passengers, including a woman who later died. The young men fled the bus, hijacked a car at a red light, and forced the driver to take them toward Bethlehem. Israeli security forces stopped them at a military checkpoint, and in a gun battle two of the young men and their hostage were killed. The third hijacker, whom I will call S, was struck by a bullet in the head; he lay comatose for two months in Israeli hospitals. Finally, he was pronounced brain-dead, and the Israelis sent him back to his family in the Gaza Strip to die.

But S recovered, and when we met, five years later, he told me his version of the events. By then, he was married and the father of three sons. Each of them had been named for shaheed batal — “martyr heroes”.

In Gaza, S is celebrated as a young man who “gave his life to Allah” and whom Allah “brought back to life”.

He was polite as he welcomed me into his home. The house was surrounded by a high cement wall that had been fortified with steel. We sat down in a large, simply furnished room whose walls were inscribed with verses from the Koran. On one wall was a poster showing green birds flying in a purple sky, a symbol of the Palestinian suicide bombers.

S had just turned 27. He is slight, and he walked with a limp, the only trace of his near-death. He invited his wife to join us, and he answered my questions without hesitation.

I asked him when, and why, he had decided to volunteer for martyrdom. “In the spring of 1993, I began to pester our military leaders to let me do an operation,” he said. “It was around the time of the Oslo accords, and it was quiet, too quiet. I wanted to do an operation that would incite others to do the same. Finally, I was given the green light to leave Gaza for an operation inside Israel.”

“How did you feel when you heard that you’d been selected for martyrdom?” I asked.

“It’s as if a very high, impenetrable wall separated you from Paradise or Hell,” he said. “Allah has promised one or the other to his creatures. So, by pressing the detonator, you can immediately open the door to Paradise — it is the shortest path to Heaven.”

S was one of 11 children in a middle-class family that, in 1948, had been forced to flee from Majdal to a refugee camp in Gaza, during the Arab-Israeli war that started with the creation of the State of Israel. He joined Hamas in his early teens and became a street activist.

In 1989, he served two terms in Israeli prisons for intifada activity, including attacks on Israeli soldiers. One of his brothers is serving a life sentence in Israel.

I asked S to describe his preparations for the suicide mission. “We were in a constant state of worship,” he said. “We told each other that if the Israelis only knew how joyful we were they would whip us to death! Those were the happiest days of my life.”

“What is the attraction of martyrdom?” I asked.

“The power of the spirit pulls us upward, while the power of material things pulls us downward,” he said. “Someone bent on martyrdom becomes immune to the material pull. Our planner asked, ‘What if the operation fails?’ We told him, ‘In any case, we get to meet the Prophet and his companions, inshallah.’

“We were floating, swimming, in the feeling that we were about to enter eternity. We had no doubts. We made an oath on the Koran, in the presence of Allah — a pledge not to waver. This jihad pledge is called bayt al-ridwan, after the garden in Paradise that is reserved for the prophets and the martyrs. I know that there are other ways to do jihad. But this one is sweet — the sweetest. All martyrdom operations, if done for Allah ’s sake, hurt less than a gnat’s bite!”

S showed me a video that documented the final planning for the operation. In the grainy footage, I saw him and two other young men engaging in a ritualistic dialogue of questions and answers about the glory of martyrdom. S, who was holding a gun, identified himself as a member of al-Qassam, the military wing of Hamas, which is one of two Palestinian Islamist organisations that sponsor suicide bombings. (Islamic Jihad is the other group.) “Tomorrow, we will be martyrs,” he declared, looking straight at the camera. “Only the believers know what this means. I love martyrdom.”

The young men and the planner then knelt and placed their right hands on the Koran. The planner said: “Are you ready? Tomorrow, you will be in Paradise.”

SINCE 1982, I have been an international relief worker. In 1996 I was posted to the Gaza Strip during one of the most vicious cycles of suicide bombings. To understand why certain young men voluntarily blow themselves up in the name of Islam, I began, without official sponsorship, to research their backgrounds and the beliefs that had led them to such extreme tactics.

I was warned that my interest in trying to understand the suicide missions was dangerous. But eventually, when the people who were observing me had assured themslves of my credentials — an important one was that I am Muslim and from Pakistan — I was allowed to meet members of Hamas and Islamic Jihad who would help me. “We are agreeing to talk to you so that you can explain the Islamic context of these operations,” one man told me. “Even many in the Islamic world do not understand.”

From 1996 to 1999, I interviewed nearly 250 people involved in the most militant camps of the Palestinian cause: volunteers who, like S, had been unable to complete their suicide missions, the families of dead bombers, and the men who trained them.

None of the suicide bombers — they ranged in age from 18 to 38 — conformed to the typical profile of the suicidal personality. None of them was uneducated, desperately poor, simple-minded, or depressed. Many were middle-class and held paying jobs. Two were the sons of millionaires. They all seemed entirely normal members of their families. They were polite and serious, and in their communities were considered to be model youths. Most were bearded. All were deeply religious.

I was told that to be accepted for a suicide mission the volunteers had to be convinced of the religious legitimacy of the acts they were contemplating, as sanctioned by the divinely revealed religion of Islam. Many of these young men had memorised large sections of the Koran and were well versed in the finer points of Islamic law and practice. But their knowledge of Christianity was rooted in the medieval crusades, and they regarded Judaism and Zionism as synonymous.

Most of the men I interviewed requested strict anonymity. The majority spoke in Arabic and they all talked matter-of-factly about the bombings, showing an unshakeable conviction in the rightness of their cause and their methods. When I asked them if they had any qualms about killing innocent civilians, they would immediately respond, “The Israelis kill our children and our women. This is war, and innocent people get hurt.”

They were not inclined to argue but they were happy to discuss, far into the night, the issues and the purpose of their activities. One condition of the interviews was that, in our discussions, I not refer to their deeds as “suicide”, which is forbidden in Islam. Their preferred term is “sacred explosions”. One member of al-Qassam said: “We do not have tanks or rockets, but we have something superior — our exploding Islamic bombs.”

My contacts told me that, as a military objective, spreading fear among the Israelis was as important as killing them. Anwar Aziz, an Islamic Jihad member who blew himself up in an ambulance in Gaza, in December 1993, had often told friends: “Battles for Islam are won not through the gun but by striking fear into the enemy’s heart.”

Military commanders of Hamas and Islamic Jihad remarked that the human bomb was one of the surest ways of hitting a target. A senior Hamas leader said: “The main thing is to guarantee that a large number of the enemy will be affected. With an explosive belt or bag, the bomber has control over vision, location, and timing.”

As today’s weapons of mass destruction go, the human bomb is cheap. A Palestinian security official pointed out that, apart from a willing young man, all that is needed are such items as nails, gunpowder, a battery, a light switch and a short cable, mercury (readily obtainable from thermometers), acetone, and the cost of tailoring a belt wide enough to hold six or eight pockets of explosives. The most expensive item is transportation to a distant Israeli town. The total cost of a typical operation is about US $150 (£85). The sponsoring organisation usually gives between $3,000-$5,000 (£1,700- £2,830) to the bomber’s family.

I met an imam affiliated with Hamas, a youthful, bearded graduate of the prestigious al Azhar University in Cairo. He explained that the first drop of blood shed by a martyr during jihad washes away his sins instantaneously. On the Day of Judgment, he will face no reckoning. On the Day of Resurrection, he can intercede for 70 of his nearest and dearest to enter Heaven; and he will have at his disposal 72 houris, the beautiful virgins of Paradise. The imam took pains to explain that the promised bliss is not sensual.

There is no shortage of willing recruits for martyrdom. Hamas and Islamic Jihad generally reject those who are under 18, who are the sole wage-earners in their families, or who are married and have family responsibilities. If two brothers ask to join, one is turned away.

The planners keep a close eye on the volunteer’s self-discipline, noting whether he can be discreet among friends and observing his piety in the mosque. During the week before the operation, two “assistants” are delegated to stay with the potential martyr at all times. They report any signs of doubt, and if the young man seems to waver, a senior trainer will arrive to bolster his resolve.

A planner for Islamic Jihad said that his organisation carefully scrutinises the motives of a potential bomber: “We ask this young man, and we ask ourselves, why he wishes so badly to become a human bomb. What are his real motives? Our questions are aimed at clarifying first and foremost for the boy himself his real reasons and the strength of his commitment. Even if he is a long-time member of our group and has always wanted to become a martyr, he needs to be very clear that in such an operation there is no drawing back. Preparation bolsters his conviction, which supports his certitude. It removes fear.”

A member of Hamas explained the preparation: “We focus his attention on Paradise, on being in the presence of Allah, on meeting the Prophet Muhammad, on interceding for his loved ones so that they, too, can be saved from the agonies of Hell, on the houris, and on fighting the Israeli occupation and removing it from the Islamic trust that is Palestine.”

I asked one planner about the problem of fear. “The boy has left that stage far behind,” he said. “The fear is not for his own safety or his impending death. It does not come from lack of confidence in his ability to press the trigger. It is awe, produced by the situation. He has never done this before and, inshallah, he will never do it again. It comes from his fervent desire for success, which will propel him into the presence of Allah. It is anxiety over the possibility of something going wrong and denying him his heart’s wish. The outcome, remember, lies in Allah’s hands.”

Al-khaliyya al-istishhadiyya, which is often mistranslated as “suicide cell” — its proper translation is “martyrdom cell” — is the basic building block of operations. Generally, each cell consists of a leader and two or three young men. When a candidate is placed in a cell, usually after months, if not years, of religious studies, he is assigned the lofty title of al-shaheed al -hayy, “the living martyr”. He is also referred to as “he who is waiting for martyrdom”.

Each cell is tightly compartmentalised and secret. Cell members do not discuss their affiliation with their friends or family, and even if two of them know each other in normal life, they are not aware of the other’s membership in the same cell. (Only the leader is known to both.) Each cell, which is dissolved after the operation has been completed, is given a name from the Koran or from Islamic history.

The young men undergo intensified spiritual exercises, including prayers and recitations of the Koran. Usually, the trainer encourages the candidate to read six particular chapters of the Koran: Baqara, Al Imran, Anfal, Tawba, Rahman, and Asr, which feature such themes as jihad, the birth of the nation of Islam, war, Allah’s favours and the importance of faith.

Religious lectures last from two to four hours each day. The living martyr goes on lengthy fasts. He spends much of the night praying. He pays off all his debts, and asks for forgiveness for actual or perceived offences.

In the days before the operation, the candidate prepares a will on paper, audiocassette or video, sometimes all three. The video testaments, which are shot against a background of the sponsoring organisation’s banner and slogans, show the living martyr reciting the Koran, posing with guns and bombs, exhorting his comrades to follow his example, and extolling the virtues of jihad.

The wills emphasise the voluntary basis of the mission. “This is my free decision, and I urge all of you to follow me,” one young bomber, Muhammad Abu Hashem, said in a recorded testament before blowing himself up, in 1995, in retaliation for the assassination of Fathi Shiqaqi.

The young man repeatedly watches the video of himself, as well as the videos of his predecessors. “These videos encourage him to confront death, not fear it,” one trainer told me. “He becomes intimately familiar with what he is about to do. Then he can greet death like an old friend.”

Just before the bomber sets out on his final journey, he performs a ritual ablution, puts on clean clothes, and tries to attend at least one communal prayer at a mosque. He says the traditional Islamic prayer that is customary before battle, and he asks Allah to forgive his sins and to bless his mission. He puts a Koran in his left breast pocket, above the heart, and he straps the explosives around his waist or picks up a briefcase or a bag containing the bomb. The planner bids him farewell with the words “May Allah be with you, may Allah give you success so that you achieve Paradise.”

The would-be martyr responds, “Inshallah, we will meet in Paradise.”

Hours later, as he presses the detonator, he says, “Allahu akbar” — “Allah is great. All praise to Him.”

The operation doesn’t end with the explosion and the many deaths. Hamas and Islamic Jihad distribute copies of the martyr’s audiocassette or video to the media and to local organisations as a record of their success and encouragement to other young men. His act becomes the subject of sermons in mosques, and provides material for leaflets, posters, videos, demonstrations, and extensive coverage in the media. Graffiti on walls in the martyr’s neighbourhood praise his heroism. Aspiring martyrs perform mock re-enactments of the operation, using models of exploding cars and buses. The sponsoring organisation distributes cassettes of chants and songs honouring the good soldier.

The bomber’s family and the sponsoring organisation celebrate his martyrdom with festivities, as if it were a wedding. Hundreds of guests congregate at the house to offer congratulations. The hosts serve the juices and sweets that the young man specified in his will. Often, the mother will ululate in joy over the honour that Allah has bestowed upon her family.

But there is grief, too. I asked the mother of Ribhi Kahlout, a young man in the Gaza Strip, who had blown himself up in November 1995, what she would have done if she had known what her son was planning to do. “I would have taken a cleaver, cut open my heart, and stuffed him deep inside,” she said. “Then I would have sewn it up tight to keep him safe.”


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bomber; interview; koran; terrorist

1 posted on 07/15/2005 1:03:55 AM PDT by WaveMan
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To: WaveMan
None of the suicide bombers — they ranged in age from 18 to 38 — conformed to the typical profile of the suicidal personality. None of them was uneducated, desperately poor, simple-minded, or depressed. Many were middle-class and held paying jobs. Two were the sons of millionaires.

I'm surprised the Times posted this story because it puts the lie to the claim of the Left that economics is the core reason for terrorism and suicide bombing when in fact it is a simple issue of a twisted doctrine of salvation. Within Islam it is justifiable to murder people in order to attain paradise...and that is not a twisting of the quran, that is a straight reading of it as well as the sunnah and hadith.

2 posted on 07/15/2005 1:13:49 AM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: WaveMan

Where do I sign? Credit card debt has inspired me to martyrdom. I do it all for BAAL.

what lost souls, those that give their lives and murder others for this false god.


3 posted on 07/15/2005 1:27:01 AM PDT by wildcatf4f3 (whats wrong with a draft?)
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To: highlander_UW

Sicko religion.


4 posted on 07/15/2005 2:25:32 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy

This is a cult. These young people are brain washed in the name of Allah. Just another hi-jacking of a religion as has happened in this country. It is very sad.


5 posted on 07/15/2005 3:33:05 AM PDT by Cricket24 ("We have met the enemy and it's the U.S. press (and the democrats)!")
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To: WaveMan

The death cultists are also happy with the money they receive.


6 posted on 07/15/2005 4:00:22 AM PDT by tkathy (Tyranny breeds terrorism. Freedom breeds peace.)
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To: WaveMan; Cindy; backhoe

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7 posted on 07/15/2005 4:02:43 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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8 posted on 07/15/2005 4:05:44 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Cricket24
This is a cult. These young people are brain washed in the name of Allah. Just another hi-jacking of a religion as has happened in this country. It is very sad.

Why do you say hijacking of a religion? In addition to the quran (which has many directives to kill non-believers) muslims hold the sunnah and hadith as examples for their lives as well. Essentially, they are stories relating Muhammad's life as well as his "way". They are to be used as examples for living. Even the most cursory examination of Muhammad's life will show that he was essentially a brigand and war lord. ..and those activities are held as normative because Muhammad partook of those actions.

9 posted on 07/15/2005 4:37:38 AM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: highlander_UW
None of the suicide bombers — they ranged in age from 18 to 38 — conformed to the typical profile of the suicidal personality. None of them was uneducated, desperately poor, simple-minded, or depressed. Many were middle-class and held paying jobs. Two were the sons of millionaires.
That point struck me also. Now the news has the story of the capture of the fifth suspect in the London bombings. The chemist, who studied in the U.S. among other universities, has been found in Egypt.

This certainly contradicts most all the statements of the "profilers," not just left-wingers. How can we ever stop this? Dying for their spiritual beliefs is so ingrained in their lives and ancestry. As long as there are books, writings, and teachings about the glory of murdering others for the sake of one's own "salvation" this will continue. If their culture does not even mourn, but rathercelebrates their deaths, how can we expect them to be concerned about the deaths of innocent victims?

We might speak of their actions as "in-humane" but that can never affect their attitude because they are not concerned with humanity anyway. And, if they have no value of material things either, or success as an individual, or any of the things that drive the rest of the human race, how do we think we can make them value anything more than their desire for their own happiness in another world? Theirs is a selfish, totally self-centered goal. They really don't care if people of their own belief win the “war;” all they care about is guaranteeing their own personal after-life.

I wonder: If all opposition to their faith was to cease, and all people would accept, embrace, and convert to their religion, whom would they have to fight? How would they ever attain their objectives if they did not have to murder to walk with Allah?

On the other hand, do they really believe that none of their faith, none of the teachers, mullahs, women (especially), other professionals, or people who die from sickness or accidents, people who have not murdered infidels in Allah’s name - no others have that same chance to be with Allah in supposed ultimate glory? Do they really feel that any of the good people of their faith who help others, are compassionate, strive to be caring and provide for others comfort will never attain such rewards as they believe will come to them? Why are they the only ones who can reach this "ultimate" level when, certainly, thousands of others of their faith have suffered in various ways on earth?

It appears that it is not for the good of anything greater than one (themselves), or even the religion as a whole that they do these things. It is simply an individual, self-centered focus that drives these people and perpetuates this terrorism.

How can anyone make these people love others more than they love themselves? No one can. No one can penetrate their thoughts of disdain for everything earthly. All the weapons and bombs in the world cannot penetrate their thoughts. They are bred and indoctrinated to believe that only their individual salvation alone is important. That is why, no matter how many of their members (family, friends, countrymen) are killed, even if all but one has died, that last one will never give up his chances to die as a "martyr" (terrorist) and receive the reward promised to them. There is no camaraderie in the battlefield or daily life, no feelings for the brotherhood of man, and no testimonies that are given about the glory of being humane towards other people that are in the forefront of their culture’s teachings.

How do we fight that? Destroy all their writings and books, eradicate all cultural memories of the faith by some magical or hypnotic means, or take out all the tongues of all who teach that the purpose one is here is to kill another for one’s own security in heaven? How do we stop this?

It is not so much hatred for people of other faiths that is the main fuel. That is only the "oil" that greases the wheels of these beliefs, ignites their actions, and assists in propelling these people toward their goal. Hatred is only a partner in motivating them.

Personal gratification is the deeper, simpler, selfish objective, a belief only in what they want in an afterlife. Theirs is a lifestyle driven by their passion for themselves alone above everything and anyone else. There hearts are filled only with thoughts of their own glory, thus there is absolutely no room for the idea and glory of “love” toward mankind.

10 posted on 07/15/2005 8:15:00 AM PDT by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)
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To: highlander_UW

You mean like where it says ""Do not kill any old person, any child or any woman", "Do not kill the monks in monasteries" or "Do not kill the people who are sitting in places of worship"."


11 posted on 07/15/2005 8:30:55 AM PDT by Valin (The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right.)
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To: Valin
You mean like where it says ""Do not kill any old person, any child or any woman", "Do not kill the monks in monasteries" or "Do not kill the people who are sitting in places of worship"."

And yet they do. Within Islam is a principle called abrogation. The quran is not written in the same way the bible is. It is essentially a chronological collection of teachings from Muhammad. When there are contradictory teachings the later ones over wright, or abrogate, the earlier ones. So when someone reads in the earlier sections things that are more peaceful, those are superseded by the later ones advocating killing. These coincide with Muhammad's military power being low in the earlier years, but as he gathered more forces his actions, and the teachings of the quran become more militant.

12 posted on 07/15/2005 10:36:53 AM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: CitizenM
Thanks for your well considered post. This portion seems to be the essence of your post...

How do we fight that? Destroy all their writings and books, eradicate all cultural memories of the faith by some magical or hypnotic means, or take out all the tongues of all who teach that the purpose one is here is to kill another for one’s own security in heaven? How do we stop this?

Ultimately, we can't stop people from valuing their own salvation over the lives of others...especially when that selfishness is motivated by a religious belief. We do not have the ability to eradicate every vestige of Islam from the world, and therefore it seems that we will continue to face radical muslims who see their best shot at salvation through the avenue of murdering others. Even if we all stepped back and agreed to convert they would identify groups that they believed were not serious about Islam and would target them as apostates...so there would never be peace, even if everyone converted to Islam...which, of course won't happen in any case.

When faced with an unreasonable enemy that one can not influence the only thing we can control is ourselves. We tend to focus on life as if it's the most important thing, but after we die there is still eternity. I think our best option is a two fold approach. Firstly we need to make sure we're right with God...and allah is not God. And the second approach is...

Mat 5:43 "You have heard that it was said, 'YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR and hate your enemy.' Mat 5:44 "But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, Mat 5:45 so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on {the} evil and {the} good, and sends rain on {the} righteous and {the} unrighteous. Mat 5:46 "For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? Mat 5:47 "If you greet only your brothers, what more are you doing {than others?} Do not even the Gentiles do the same? Mat 5:48 "Therefore you are to be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

Islam says love your neighbor but hate your enemies...Jesus taught a better way. We have an enemy that is not willing to be reasonable and we can't change them. We can, however, control our own reactions and be right with God.

13 posted on 07/15/2005 10:55:03 AM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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