You think that they will reel PVDS in sweat and all for DNA samples soon?
I hope so. Just set a bucket down beside him...son't waste a swab.
GRACE: A $200,000 reward for the safe return of Natalee, more money for information on Natalee`s whereabouts.
Welcome back, everybody.
Very quickly to Dr. Lawrence Kobilinsky. What`s the difference? What would you do an oral swabbing as opposed to blood? I always got blood samples when doing DNA comparison.
KOBILINSKY: Well, I think scientists would prefer a blood sample rather than saliva.
GRACE: That`s what the crime lab told me.
KOBILINSKY: Yes, well, you`ve got other things in blood that might be useful, enzymes and other substances that could be tested if need be. But the fact of the matter is, saliva and blood both have DNA. And it doesn`t matter where you get it, as long as you`ve got enough DNA to test.
GRACE: And Lisa Wayne, of course, is the issue of the ease of getting the DNA. It`s a lot easier getting on oral swabbing than holding somebody down and sticking a needle in their arm.
WAYNE: A lot of courts, at least in this country, perceive that as less intrusive. So if you just do the swabbing, it`s not considered as intrusive.
GRACE: Quick break, everybody. We`ll all be right back in Aruba.
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ARLENE ELLIS-SCHIPPER, ARUBAN ATTORNEY: There is no grand jury in Aruba. It`s a different system. You are arrested based on suspicion, on strong suspicion. After a maximum of 146 days, the prosecution must determine the criminal offense that has been committed and make an official summation for court. And God forbid that they cannot determine what criminal offense has been committed, the case remains open, and it can remain open for a whole number of years, actually, until the due process, the international rules about due process, up to two years.
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GRACE: Welcome back, everybody. We are live in Aruba tonight with Natalee Holloway`s mother, Beth Holloway Twitty. Ms. Twitty, you had your blood sample taken, correct?
BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, MISSING GIRL`S MOTHER: Well, I did. And I heard you mentioning that to a guest earlier on your show, and you seem to be questioning why they didn`t draw blood, why did they only do the swabbing.
GRACE: I was. I was. Of course, you can get DNA from an oral swabbing, but for all of the years I prosecuted, I would -- the crime lab told me they would prefer to have a blood sample, so I always got them a blood sample -- pursuant to warrant! I didn`t go grab the person myself and actually drain their blood. But yes, we always, always got a blood sample, Beth.
TWITTY: Well, Nancy, I had my blood drawn on two separate occasions, one from the Aruban authorities` side and then also from the United States officials. So I was just wondering why I had to have two separate ones, in addition to the swabbing.
GRACE: And I also want to ask you about all these various stories Joran Van Der Sloot has given. The other night, I was talking to Karl Penhaul, and he told me on air that there were between 9 and 15 different versions that Joran Van Der Sloot had given about the night Natalee went missing. Do you know what the different versions are, Beth?
TWITTY: No. And you know what`s even more frightening than that, Nancy, is I don`t know if we`ve heard all of them. And let alone, I don`t know if he`s finally disclosed the last story. I don`t think we`ve ever gotten to where he actually -- that he and the Kalpoe brothers actually left Natalee or were with her last.
GRACE: I think you`re right. I think there are more revisions modifications to come from Joran Van Der Sloot.
And to Randy Keen. The reality is that you can easily get a conviction when a defendant, a suspect, keeps changing their stories. You know there`s only one version of the truth, so even if this duct tape does not reveal anything forensic, with Joran Van Der Sloot, at least nine different stories -- Randy, come on! You were a judge.
RANDY KEEN, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: The problem with the defendants and what`s going to happen in this situation, I think, is the defendant -- is Mr. Van Der Sloot is going to paint himself into a corner with all these different renditions. That`s going to be the problem. What`s going to put the nail in -- nail the coffin shut is going to be the duct tape. Hopefully, there`ll be some DNA there.
GRACE: Yes. And very quickly, before we go, Dr. Kobilinsky, regarding the hair on the duct tape, I know now from Susan Candiotti for sure some of that hair went to the FBI. Right, Susan?
SUSAN CANDIOTTI, CNN CORRESPONDENT: That`s right. And they will probably begin testing on it first thing in the morning. And it could take up to 72 hours, three days, if they`re doing the nuclear test. It kind of depends on whether they have a hair root on there. But it may not even take that long. They could get the results much more quickly than that.
GRACE: So she`s saying you`ve got the nuclear DNA testing from a hair follicle, a root. You got mitochondrial possibilities...
LAWRENCE KOBILINSKY, FORENSIC SCIENTIST: Right.
GRACE: ... and that is DNA passed down through the mother specifically. That would be Beth Twitty we`ve been talking to. But how do you part the hair so the Netherlands get hair and Quantico FBI gets hair?
KOBILINSKY: It`s really not a problem because all you need is about one to two centimeters to do the testing, so no problem parceling out the hair. Let me just say this, that first they do a microscopic analysis to determine whether the hairs are similar or not. If they`re not, there`s an exclusion, no further testing is warranted.
GRACE: Guys, as we switch gears and go to another story -- Beth Twitty, I`m going to put up on a full screen again the newly announced reward amount, $200,000 for Natalee`s safe return, $100,000 for info on Natalee`s whereabouts. Tip line, 877-628-2533. That`s a toll-free number. Take a look at Natalee Holloway. Beth, thank you for being with us, friend.
TWITTY: Thank you, Nancy. Thanks for having me.
GRACE: Yes, ma`am.
Everybody, we are quickly shifting gears from Aruba. But don`t worry, we`re going to keep you updated on Aruba. We are waiting for the DNA results from that hair, and we`ll bring it to you as quickly as we can.