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Anesthesia for Unborn Babies Prior to Late Term Abortion - Bill Signed by Minnesota Governor
LifeSiteNews.com ^ | 20 July 2005

Posted on 07/19/2005 5:25:35 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher

SAINT PAUL, July 19, 2005 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty, last Thursday, signed a bill that will require doctors to tell women seeking abortion after 20 weeks gestation that fetuses might feel pain during the procedure and offer them the option of fetal anesthesia. The "Unborn Child Pain Prevention Act," was supported by the group, Minnesota Citizens Concerned for Life, (MCCL) an affiliate of National Right to Life.

MCCL's Laura Gese, told LifeSiteNews.com that the passage of the legislation was being seen as a victory by pro-lifers there. "It's a compassionate bill, wherein, if we have decided that the child has to die, at least he won't suffer horribly from a brutal death."

The bill was not directly opposed by the National Abortion Rights Action League, since fetal pain is considered a side issue. Most Minnesota abortions are committed in the first twelve weeks of pregnancy and so the law does not affect them. Medical association opposition was dropped when the bill's language was changed to preclude felony charges for doctors who failed to comply.

The real value of the legislation is in the message it sends to those engaged in the debate. Gese said that MCCL hopes the bill will have an effect similar to the partial birth abortion bans in raising the awareness in the public of the humanity of the unborn child. Gese said, "It strengthens the Woman's Right to Know bill," that required women be given accurate information about abortion and fetal development before abortion.

"It also brings to light the humanity of the unborn child and opens the discussion. It helps people to understand that this is a human being that we are talking about."

Jim Hughes, National President of Canada's pro-life lobby, Campaign Life Coalition, echoed this when he told LifeSiteNews.com, "If there's anything positive it is to show that there is a human being present that does feel pain. And people who haven't entered the debate yet will come into the discussion and be shown the humanity of the unborn."

"By the same token," said Hughes, "it's certainly not a victory. It's definitely an admission that these things are going to go on anyway and we can't stop them yet. It's a very, very small step forward, but it might cause some younger people to give the issue a second look, and in the end, gain their support for the life of the child."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: abortion; babykillers; deadbabies; fetalpain; latetermabortion; minnesota; pawlenty
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To: Aussie Dasher
I'll say it again and to my grave. When we allowed life to lose its sacredness, we took a hugh step down into the mire of he!!.

How did we lose the sacredness of life? Contraception. Instead of two people in love who want to consummate that love with a child, we have two people who barely know each other, won't recall the other's real name or much else about him/her the next morning, who 'have sex' with a flippant attitude because they are either "using something" or she can go get a morning after pill if she thinks she might have been ovulating the night before.

And who is 'better off?' I think the men are. They can say "it's your problem" and walk off without a shred of guilt.

Contraceptives = Callousness towards life.
21 posted on 07/19/2005 6:23:21 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (Io sono l'Alfa e l'Omega, dice il Signore Dio, Colui che è, che era e che viene, l'Onnipotente!)
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To: livius

I think a few will think twice and choose life. Not many perhaps but each one is a life saved.


22 posted on 07/19/2005 6:25:35 PM PDT by xp38
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To: HighlyOpinionated

States should require those seeking abortions to "name" their babies before the abortion regardless of the trimester the mother is in. For the death certificate. If they want pregnant women to understand it is a human they are killing, it should at least have a name


23 posted on 07/19/2005 6:27:22 PM PDT by cashmere (if it's not close, they can't cheat)
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To: Aussie Dasher
The abortionists have always known what they were really doing.

Remember, they take great pleasure in their work.

24 posted on 07/19/2005 6:30:59 PM PDT by muawiyah (/ hey coach do I gotta' put in that "/sarcasm " thing again?)
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To: cashmere

That's an extremely good idea. You should put it to your local legislator.


25 posted on 07/19/2005 6:31:00 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: Tax-chick
Re: ultrasound-------it has its dangers too.My then wife had an ultrasound in which the examining nurse? inserted the probe "for a better look". Within a couple days she miscarried;I later concluded the person manipulating the ultrasound deliberately tried to induce the miscarriage as the device is not ordinarily inserted. The local doctor tried to discourage our having children by saying we would be nearing retirement age when child graduated high school. I now think someone played "god" and tried to make sure there would be no child.

How many times has something like this happened? And how many men have been denied children because nine old men decided 30 years ago that it is only a child if the woman wants it ,and the man's only function is to pay the bills?

26 posted on 07/19/2005 6:33:05 PM PDT by hoosierham
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To: livius

I'm surprised at NARAL; they even oppose health standards for abortion clinics. Like using sterile technique,allowing inspections, etc. They claim it is an undue burden "forced" on abortionists to "interfere" with choice.


27 posted on 07/19/2005 6:34:27 PM PDT by boop (Testing the tagline feature!)
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To: Aussie Dasher
At least they accept they're killing a baby...not that it helps that baby in the end.

I'd be curious to know the number of late term abortions performed. I imagine it is quite small. Furthermore, I'd bet that the majority of late term abortions are performed on expectant mothers who wanted nothing more than to give birth to a child but due to catastrophic medical complications are forced to make a painful decision and abort the child that they wished to give birth to.

And now a legislation is being enacted to force doctors to tell these women that the baby they hoped to bring into the world is going to die a horrible, painful death.

Classy.

28 posted on 07/19/2005 6:34:33 PM PDT by Drew68 (IYAOYAS! Semper Gumby!)
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To: Ignatius J Reilly
Since when? Have you read Roe v. Wade? There are NO limits. In fact, the SCOTUS didn't even require that abortions be performed by qualified medical personnel.

Not to be cynical (which of course, I am being quite cynical), if a state were simply to totally privatize abortion, and deregulate it as a medical practice as Roe v. Wade says it can, the practice of abortion in that state would disappear, totally, within days.

The risk would rise so high, no person but the brain dead would dare seek an abortion in such a place.

29 posted on 07/19/2005 6:34:47 PM PDT by muawiyah (/ hey coach do I gotta' put in that "/sarcasm " thing again?)
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To: hoosierham

That is just terrible. I'm pregnant now at 38 (39 on Friday :-) and my husband is 42. We'll be pretty old when Baby Whosis leaves home, but if anyone tells me we shouldn't be having a baby, I'll kick them in the knee!

They do have an ultrasound probe that's used for detecting an embryo in very early pregnancy, before an external monitor can see anything. I went through this in my second pregnancy, because of concern that it could be ectopic (wasn't - now she plans to be the next Ann Coulter.) I understand it's commonly used in "assisted fertility" situations.

I'm sure millions of men have had children they wanted, aborted. What's amazing is that so many are still so careless about where they deposit their sperm, as it were. Maggie Gallagher wrote an article about this recently, addressed to her teenage son. I'll hunt for the link.


30 posted on 07/19/2005 6:47:45 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Democrats ... frolicking on the wilder shores of Planet Zongo.)
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To: american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; ...
If "they" feel pain, then they are living beings, right? If they are living beings, don't they deserve the same rights as others? (((head shaking))))

Catholic Ping
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31 posted on 07/19/2005 6:54:59 PM PDT by NYer ("Each person is meant to exist. Each person is God's own idea." - Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: Coleus; Mr. Silverback; cpforlife.org

Bump!


32 posted on 07/19/2005 6:57:48 PM PDT by NYer ("Each person is meant to exist. Each person is God's own idea." - Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: hoosierham

http://www.ncregister.com/current/0612lead1.htm

Here you go. Took some searching!


33 posted on 07/19/2005 7:01:53 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Democrats ... frolicking on the wilder shores of Planet Zongo.)
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To: C2ShiningC
Unfriggin' believable!
34 posted on 07/19/2005 7:12:29 PM PDT by GipperGal
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To: Aussie Dasher

"that fetuses might feel pain".....MIGHT???


35 posted on 07/19/2005 7:21:04 PM PDT by jch10
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To: Drew68

So it's better for the baby to be dismembered without anesthesia, than for the mother to acknowledge the fact that he can feel pain? Humane.


36 posted on 07/19/2005 7:22:38 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Democrats ... frolicking on the wilder shores of Planet Zongo.)
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To: Aussie Dasher; cpforlife.org; Coleus

Still so sad.


37 posted on 07/19/2005 7:24:17 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Really sick. Convoluted to say the least.


38 posted on 07/19/2005 7:26:31 PM PDT by Concentrate (www.housepricecrash.co.uk/)
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To: Ignatius J Reilly
unfortunately a lot of people believe as you do....I think that the truth is too ugly for them to face.

here is what I find to be the amazing thing: even if the mother's life is at risk--say cancer or something-- why does the baby need to be born DEAD! how does a dead baby "help" the mother? if the baby needs to come out to "save" the mother can't the baby be born alive?

partial birth is not and never was about the life of the mother. partial birth was always about the mother wanting her baby dead.
39 posted on 07/20/2005 5:31:47 AM PDT by socialismisinsidious
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To: NYer

Terrible way to start a day knowing this bill exists.


40 posted on 07/20/2005 5:40:23 AM PDT by BayouCoyote (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices it.)
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