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America's Hiroshima: America's Date with Disaster - (take this seriously!
CHRONWATCH.COM ^ | JULY 26, 2005 | Barbara J. Stock

Posted on 07/25/2005 9:13:25 PM PDT by CHARLITE

Reports are slowly filtering out about a plan by Islamics to detonate several nuclear bombs around the continental United States. Osama bin Laden has lovingly named this attack “America’s Hiroshima.” His logic for giving his plan this name is that the United States is the only world power to use an atomic weapon against an enemy and based on that, it is legal and within Islamic law for him to use such weapons against the American people.

According to reports obtained from captured Al Qaeda agents and documents they were carrying, several nuclear devices may have been brought across the Mexican border with the help of the MS-13 gang and are already in position for use. All that is needed is the word from Al Qaeda to detonate them. The plan is to kill at least four million Americans in an instant. Osama has insisted that the bombs be placed in such a manner that at least two million of the dead are children. The “Day of Islam,” bin Laden believes, will be the day America surrenders to Islam.

The number of weapons has been in dispute. The Saudis claim that there may be as many as 70 bombs within the American border and the Russians say 40 bombs is more likely, and still others say there are as few as seven. What does not seem to be in question is that the bombs are here and the clock is ticking.

The smaller number is more feasible for many reasons. Nuclear bombs are not simple grenades, and they need constant and diligent maintenance. Each bomb is carefully cared for much like a mother hen tends to her eggs. It would be difficult for Islamic terrorists to keep 70 nuclear bombs functioning properly.

Then there is the secrecy matter to consider. Seventy bombs would need 70 groups of men to service the bombs and keep them in good repair. That is a lot of people to keep such a secret. Someone would spend an hour too long in a bar and let this secret slip out. In these times, someone bragging that he has a nuclear bomb in his basement would be noticed.

Last but not least is the fact that seven nuclear bombs might not be missed for some time, especially in the former Soviet Union. But 70 nuclear bombs vanishing would most certainly be noticed, even in the chaos of a corrupt Russia. It should also be noted that there are American teams in Russia assisting them to dismantle and maintain the Russian nuclear arsenal. Our men there would be able to report instantly if any were missing. Add to that the shear size of a single, multiple war-head nuclear bomb and it becomes obvious that it is unlikely that bin Laden has been able to obtain one of them. Moving such a thing about without being seen would be nearly impossible.

This leaves the Russian “suitcase nukes” and some of those do seem to be missing. American authorities have known about these small nuclear bombs for some time. Although the Russian government tried to deny them, pictures have surfaced and the Russians could no longer claim that these portable bombs were just a dream that never came to fruition. We now know that several of these small, tactical, nuclear bombs are missing and these handy, easy-to-carry bombs are ideal for bin Laden’s plans. Greedy and suddenly out-of-work Russian nuclear scientists were probably easy prey for the money bin Laden may have waved in front of them.

The possible target cities listed are: New York City, Los Angeles, Las Vegas, Chicago, Miami, Washington D.C., and Boston. Surely, more than four million people would die if all seven of these large cities were struck simultaneously. This leads one to wonder if perhaps bin Laden plans on using only four bombs in the first wave.

Would bin Laden then demand that the United States surrender to Islam? Would he use the threat of the three remaining bombs to try and force the American people to accept Islam and abandon the Constitution? That is the ultimate goal of Islam as stated by the Council on American/Islamic Relations. Would bin Laden wait a day or two and detonate the remaining bombs just for the pure joy of killing? Only he knows.

It is said that those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. The last nation that thought it had gained the upper hand against the United States was Japan. After a very successful attack which destroyed much of America’s naval fleet, a sober Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto is said to have related to his crew that all Japan had succeeded in doing was awakening a sleeping giant and filling it with a terrible resolve. Yamamoto knew Americans and he understood the American mindset because he had lived and gone to school in the United States. In his heart, he knew that once Americans were angered and determined, Japan would lose the war it had started. Yamamoto was right.

It seems that Islam has not learned from history. Recently, the term “Muslim Nation” has been used on Islamic sites and in Islamic newspapers. Islam has no country. Islamics believe the world is their country and because young Muslims have been taught the entire world is the “Muslim Nation,” many have no loyalty to any true country.

Would a nuclear attack on America cause confusion, panic, and chaos? Of course, it would. But as every television screen played the images of a great city like Chicago lying in ruins and Americans saw the charred bodies of fellow Americans lying in the streets, the rage would be unlike anything the world has ever witnessed. Muslims in America would be overwhelmed in a heartbeat. American rage would reach across the world to the farthest corner and there is no one that would dare to try and stop us. Sane people would be too wise to interfere and truth be known, the world would wish America success because they know they would be next if we fail.

Islamic attacks around the world are on the rise and Islam feels bold and untouchable. Muslims who truly denounce this activity have little time left to stop their warlike fellow-Muslims. Trying to denounce radical Islam after a nuclear attack would be far too late. The time is now. It is Islam’s responsibility to rise up and stop the terrorists in its midst and stop the insanity.

If the killing continues, the civilzed world will rise up with America and that will be the end of the Islamic dream of world domination. It could well be the end of Islam.

I believe that Muslims may curse the name of bin Laden. It may well be the last thing many Muslims ever do. Islamics are constantly issuing warnings and threats to the world. They speak of blood running in the streets. That blood may well be their own. I hope that Islamics will listen to this one warning from an average American: “Muslims must stop radical Islam now because time is short and the nuclear fuse has been lit. Once the bomb goes off it will be too late.”

Comments: dickens502003@yahoo.com


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Philosophy; United Kingdom; War on Terror
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To: kalee
"the rage would be unlike anything the world has ever witnessed."

I'm still advocating a demonstration of "shock and awe" which will also be "unlike anything the world has ever witnessed." . . . and it should be done pre-emptively. I see this exactly as Harry S. Truman saw the necessity for Hiroshima and Nagasaki. It was indeed terribly brutal to innocent Japanese civilians, but so was our carpet bombing of German cities, particularly Dresden, Leipzig and Hamburg, but those drastic military assaults did indeed save untold numbers of lives.

We should do the same thing with islamofascism. I would suggest selected military-industrial (nuclear, WMD) facilities in Iran, as well as possibly flattening Damascus........for openers. Then see about how peaceful the "religion of peace" suddenly becomes.

For those who argue that we can't do anything like that for fear of "provoking" these people, I say......nonsense. Their 1,400 blood-and-death cult was built on rationalizing brutal assaults from concocting how "provoked" they were, concerning how it was, through 14 centuries, that non-Muslims even existed! That's the whole MO - wipe out everyone unlike themselves and then send the entire planet back to the 7th century. If we want to save our civilization, we must destroy them. It is that simple, and we aren't going to do that by sitting around waiting to be attacked again, so that we will have a "reason" for finally eradicating their centers of power and funding - Iran, Syria and.......alas.....Saudi Arabia. Too bad for those "royals" who aren't part of extreme Wahhabi. It's them or us.

Thanks for your strong comments, kalee.

Char

261 posted on 07/28/2005 10:27:15 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I propose a co-Clinton team as permanent reps to Pyonyang, w/out possibility of repatriation....)
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To: slowhandluke
"We probably have to find a way to do so, (convert muslims), as I doubt any Western government has the stomach for the alternative."

We have found a way, we've employed it Iraq and Afghanistan, and the hope is that it will spread throughout the region. It's called democracy. And for all its great points, democracy (unfortunately) tends strongly towards secularism and the suppression of religion, (as we see happening today in America and every major Democracy in the world, and even in India and Turky).

Though I doubt Bush or any of his military commanders planned to use democracy for such a purpose in Iraq, it will eventually constrain and diminish religious fervor and dominance there, and any other middle eastern country it may spread to, including Afghanistan. For whatever the reason, elected officials in a democracy don't like any challenges to their authority, especially from religion. Personally, I think that once the yoke of Islamic oppression is diminished by the light and freedoms of democracy, Islam will be an extraordinarily easy religion for the people to neglect.

In the meantime the fight rages on between freedom and slavery, Democracy and theocracy, Christianity and Islam. Though few will say out loud the fight is between Christianity and Islam, most people know this in their hearts. Islam will fail utterly because it is a power loosed from Hell, and like all tyrannies its grip on people is the grip of fear. The men are toilers and servants to the mullahs and imams, and the women are chattel. When these gullible dupes of Islam decide to shake off this yoke of fear, the shackles of Islam will be lifted and the revolt will be unstoppable. Democracy will go a very long way in enlightening their dark souls. The gates of hell will not prevail against God and His people.

262 posted on 07/28/2005 10:59:49 PM PDT by TheCrusader ("The frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the churches of God" -Pope Ubran II, 1097AD)
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To: TheCrusader
We have found a way, we've employed it Iraq and Afghanistan, and the hope is that it will spread throughout the region. It's called democracy. And for all its great points, democracy (unfortunately) tends strongly towards secularism and the suppression of religion, (as we see happening today in America and every major Democracy in the world, and even in India and Turky).

We'll have to disagree on this. Democracy, unless tightly bound by checks and balances, tends towards tyranny. Tyrants will choose a religion or ideology that supports further tyranny. The Iraqi democracy chose its own end when it chose to support Sharia.

The West isn't just suppressing religion, its trying to replace it with a single politically correct ideology, and a pacifist one at that (at least for the general unarmed population.

The brilliance of our founding fathers was in supporting Liberty. They thought they could tie down democracy well enough to use it as a way to govern without the lose of liberty.

Once we get educated to a single, secular, politically correct ideology, the need to allow multiple lines of thought and individual activity will not be so apparent. Different ways of thinking and acting will seen as anti-social, and will be suppressed. Take a look at the http://nannyknowsbest.blogspot.com/ blog, and the other sites that talk about the British ASBO (anti-social behavior order).

The founding fathers were very leary of democracy. Liberty was their watchword. Bush is going down the wrong path pushing Democracy and not Liberty.

Ann Coulter had the right idea on how to educate the Islamic world on Liberty. "Give us Liberty, or you die".

263 posted on 07/29/2005 3:17:38 AM PDT by slowhandluke
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To: Southack
"So there's a prediction that you can fact check me on over the next 5 months. I'll be right while you are still in wide-eyed panic."

I'm not the one panicking in denial.

Iran has already produced po-210, in case you didn't know. That isn't the hard part. The argument as to whether Iran or North Korea will be first to detonate a nuclear weapon is just another straw man to help you try to hide the FACT that you can't support your position. I haven't got a dog in that fight.

You have your head in the sand, trying to pretend that the barbarians are too stupid to copy our 60 year old technology.

265 posted on 08/14/2005 12:15:19 AM PDT by calenel (The Democratic Party is the Socialist Mafia. It is a Criminal Enterprise.)
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To: kublia khan

We can slow the roll of the islamocrazies by dealing convincingly with their financial backers. Easy say, somewhat harder do. But we can do it, if/when we find the will. Nasty *governments* are the mother's milk of the islamofilth...


266 posted on 08/14/2005 12:33:18 AM PDT by 185JHP ( "The thing thou purposest shall come to pass: And over all thy ways the light shall shine.")
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To: calenel
"You have your head in the sand, trying to pretend that the barbarians are too stupid to copy our 60 year old technology."

The barbarians have fewer resources and fewer educated minds than does North Korea and Iran.

North Korea and Iran will therefore have workable nukes *BEFORE* Al Qaeda.

Neither North Korea nor Iran has reached the point where they are comfortable testing a weapon, for whatever technical or geopolitical weapons...

...And considering the U.S. nuclear response in retaliation for an attempted nuclear attack (ditto for Israel and Russia), you can rest well assured that North Korea and Iran will each perform at least one nuclear test prior to an attack.

No atomic test = no atomic attack

267 posted on 08/14/2005 12:59:06 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack

"North Korea and Iran will therefore have workable nukes *BEFORE* Al Qaeda."

They might have workable nuclear programs before AQ. But AQ is not trying to become a nuclear superpower, just to terrorize one.


268 posted on 08/14/2005 1:42:36 AM PDT by calenel (The Democratic Party is the Socialist Mafia. It is a Criminal Enterprise.)
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To: calenel
"Frankly, my money says that Iran will have a successful nuclear test before North Korea and that neither will be able to test this year.

So there's a prediction that you can fact check me on over the next 5 months. I'll be right while you are still in wide-eyed panic." - Southack

Gee, I'm right yet again. Who woulda thunk it.

Anyone for double or nothing?!

269 posted on 01/22/2006 7:05:21 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack

I have read a lot of what has been published about the early nuclear bombs of WW 2, and my understanding is that the U-235 or "cannonball" bomb didn't need the exotic trigger materials and was not a high tech design at all. It seems that the Navy weapons people charged with designing the "gun" worried about catching the "plug" if it went through the "doughnut" without going off. They were assured by Oppenheimer's people that there was nothing to worry about. It was only the plutonium implosion bomb design that got into exotic design problems because it required literally squeezing a solid metal sphere into a smaller volume in microseconds, something that had never been done.


270 posted on 01/22/2006 7:34:37 PM PST by 19th LA Inf
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To: 19th LA Inf

There's considerable oversimplification of nuclear weapons design in the public domain.

Keep in mind that the entire might of Nazi Germany couldn't do it.

Those who tell you that an old rusty cannon barrel and a globe of U235 are all that's needed are woefully uninformed.

271 posted on 01/22/2006 7:46:16 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: CHARLITE

Bull. Absolute, B-thriller novel, bull.


272 posted on 01/22/2006 7:48:27 PM PST by Zeroisanumber
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To: Southack

nice tagline.....I wonder why Tavis Smiley is so fond of Castro.


273 posted on 01/22/2006 7:50:29 PM PST by mojojockey
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To: A CA Guy

If up to me, within 72 hours Iran, Syria, Lybia, and Saudi Arabia would be smoldering piles of radioactive rubble.


274 posted on 01/22/2006 7:51:13 PM PST by RockinRight (Attention RNC...we're the party of Reagan, not FDR...)
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To: garjog
"FBI consultant, Paul L. Williams"

Definition of a "consultant:" Someone who knows the same stuff you do but comes from more than forty miles away.

275 posted on 01/22/2006 8:17:02 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: RockinRight

Thank God it isn't up to you then, because if we did that, the rest of the remaining world would try and take us out being we would be a world threat.

We have to be more measured than your solution, or at least we have to have a good reason for every major bombing IMO.


276 posted on 01/23/2006 12:12:36 AM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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