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Bush Holds Fast to Stem-Cell Veto Threat
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| 7/29/05
Posted on 07/30/2005 12:14:34 AM PDT by Dane
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posted on
07/30/2005 12:14:34 AM PDT
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Dane
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To: texasborderhunt
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posted on
07/30/2005 12:21:45 AM PDT
by
Central Scrutiniser
(Apply generously to sunburned or irritated skin as needed)
To: texasborderhunt
Frist's presidential desires don't stand a snowball's chance in Hades.
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posted on
07/30/2005 12:22:09 AM PDT
by
nopardons
To: texasborderhunt
"Bill Frist finally used his common sense that should be inherent to being a doctor of medicine. I believe Frist learned a huge lesson from Jeb Bush's blunder in Florida. Frist must come out as a moderate, just like G.W. Bush, and win '08"
texasborderhunt
Since Jul 23, 2005
Welcome to Free Republic. Why is it that everyone of your posts sounds like a DNC Talking Point memo?
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posted on
07/30/2005 12:22:47 AM PDT
by
MNJohnnie
( Iraq is a Terrorist bug hotel, Terrorists go in, they do not come out.)
To: texasborderhunt
GW Bush isn't a moderate and Jeb Bush didn't make a mistake in trying to help a family, the Schindlers, who was more than willing to take care of their daughter, and let her bigamist husband walk away.
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posted on
07/30/2005 12:23:24 AM PDT
by
Dane
( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
To: Central Scrutiniser
Amen, good for Frist.
In what sense? There is no scientific evidence to back up the Hysteric Left's claims about embryonic stem cells. So all Frist managed to do is piss off the Republican base by kowtowing to the Hysteric Left's latest psuedo-scientific cause.
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posted on
07/30/2005 12:25:19 AM PDT
by
MNJohnnie
( Iraq is a Terrorist bug hotel, Terrorists go in, they do not come out.)
To: Dane
It would be interesting to see what Bush would do if the stem cell provision were attached to some big huge pork bill. It's hard to imagine Bush able to bring himself to veto a big, huge, fat pork bill..
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posted on
07/30/2005 12:27:11 AM PDT
by
AntiGuv
(™)
To: texasborderhunt
Bill Frist finally used his common sense that should be inherent to being a doctor of medicine There is not a single (NOT ONE) case of ESC ever being successful in animal or human studies. Yet there are THOUSANDS of cases of Adult Stems Cells helping people. You people have no desire to really help people recover, you just want to keep the slaughter of babies legal and somehow have come to worship the process.
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posted on
07/30/2005 12:30:23 AM PDT
by
msnimje
To: texasborderhunt
Bill Frists claim that hes pro-life and believes that life begins at conception, but now supports killing embryos for research?
He also says [Embryonic stem-cell research] should advance in a manner that affords all human life dignity and respect the same dignity and respect we bring to the table as we work with children and adults to advance the frontiers of medicine and health.
If its going to be the same dignity and respect, does that mean were going to carve up, and kill, children and adults whenever theres a chance to make a medical advance?
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posted on
07/30/2005 12:30:41 AM PDT
by
kisanri
To: Dane
You are right of course. Bush isn't a moderate. He's mostly a liberal.
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posted on
07/30/2005 12:31:56 AM PDT
by
AntiGuv
(™)
To: Central Scrutiniser
To: Dane
Who thinks the veto-adverse Bush will cave?
Frist has doomed any White House aspirations he ever had.
What sort of fool says he's "prolife" that life begins at conception, the embryos are human beings but comes out *for* shoving the taxpayer's hard earned dollars down the rat hole of embryonic stem cell "research?" I-D-I-O-T. When can we disband the Senate?
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posted on
07/30/2005 12:38:31 AM PDT
by
newzjunkey
(How soon before Bush pushed a "SAFTA" down our throats?)
To: AntiGuv
You are right of course. Bush isn't a moderate. He's mostly a liberal. Blah, blah, blah, same old, same old, from the self-proclaimed "true conservative" caucus.
Bush ain't a liberal or a moderate, but you already knew that.
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posted on
07/30/2005 12:40:45 AM PDT
by
Dane
( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
To: Dane
Frist knows this, always has. He's whoring himself out to the polls.
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posted on
07/30/2005 12:45:17 AM PDT
by
Jaysun
(Name one war — anywhere — that had a "timetable".)
To: Dane
Except for religion and taxes none of Bush's policies would've been out of place in the Clinton administration.. If you think otherwise, then by all means tell me why.
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posted on
07/30/2005 12:46:38 AM PDT
by
AntiGuv
(™)
To: msnimje
If they aren't useful, no one will study them -- problem solved. Asserting that they are or are not useful
a priori is foolishness and certainly not science. Even left-wing scientists won't work on embryonic stem cells for the sole purpose of pissing off the right-wing fundies. They want the fame and money that comes with actually accomplishing something, just like most everyone else.
I support stem cell research (though I am dubious about the government funding any research), and the stupidity of using embryonic stem cells should not be determined by fiat but by fair trade in the market of science. It is grossly disingenuous and prima facie discrediting to oppose research that would supports one's position, which appears to be your position. Any argument that cannot withstand rigorous scrutiny is rightly ignored as the blatherings of a fool.
Let them have embryonic stem cells. If they are relatively worthless as you assert with great vigor, people will stop using them in short order without government interference -- a win/win in my book.
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posted on
07/30/2005 12:47:25 AM PDT
by
tortoise
(All these moments lost in time, like tears in the rain.)
To: AntiGuv
Except for religion and taxes none of Bush's policies would've been out of place in the Clinton administration.. Yeah really Bush signed on to the Kyoto treaty and the International court and appointed ruth bader ginsberg, etc.etc.(roling eyes)
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posted on
07/30/2005 12:49:38 AM PDT
by
Dane
( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
To: Dane
Bush ain't a liberal or a moderate, but you already knew that. Anybody who spends as much as he does on feel-good social programs is no conservative either. Vetoing unimportant things like embryonic stem cell research does not change this fact.
Bush is a socialist in Christian Right clothing who throws just enough bones to the real conservatives to keep them from leaving the reservation.
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posted on
07/30/2005 12:50:52 AM PDT
by
tortoise
(All these moments lost in time, like tears in the rain.)
To: tortoise
Bush is a socialist in Christian Right clothing who throws just enough bones to the real conservatives to keep them from leaving the reservation. And Eisenhower was a communist, correct?
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posted on
07/30/2005 12:52:21 AM PDT
by
Dane
( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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