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9-1-1 tapes released in baby car death
KCBD-TV, Lubbock, TX ^ | August 4, 2005

Posted on 08/04/2005 7:05:52 PM PDT by WestTexasWend

The death of a 1-year-old boy is prompting a local day care to change its policy. Madison's Place Daycare will now call every parent if a child is not dropped off by 10 a.m. The change comes immediately after a Lubbock mother forgot to drop her toddler off at day-care. By the time she remembered, he was dead.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Texas
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I posted the story earlier today...here's more.
1 posted on 08/04/2005 7:05:52 PM PDT by WestTexasWend
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To: WestTexasWend

arrest the mother for negligence. its the only way to deal with this. the burden should not be on the day care center. once the day care center does this, if this should happen again, the parent will now say "but, the day care center never called me. Its their fault.". its nuts.


2 posted on 08/04/2005 7:09:38 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: WestTexasWend
In this day of cell phones, a call ought to be made if the child is not there after 15 min. of the usual time.

Public schools in many areas call if a child has not appeared at school.

Parents must call if their child will be absent, there is no reason why this can't be done in day care as well.

It's not about blame, it's about saving babies.

3 posted on 08/04/2005 7:14:18 PM PDT by OldFriend (MERCY TO THE GUILTY IS CRUELTY TO THE INNOCENT ~ Adam Smith)
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To: oceanview

when my children were in day care I called them if they weren't going to be there, it is not the responsibility of the day care to do what the parents should be capable of doing.


4 posted on 08/04/2005 7:15:43 PM PDT by Cudjo
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To: oceanview

Yeah, that'll teach her.


5 posted on 08/04/2005 7:15:58 PM PDT by Trust but Verify (Get over yourselves!)
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To: WestTexasWend
These stories are always so tragic, but so frequent. This is the 3rd or 4th just in the last week or so.

Surely some creative engineer could devise -- a 2-part device. Part 1 would be placed with the baby, embedded in the carrier or somehow kept with the child; part 2 on the auto keychain. If the two parts are separated by more than X number of feet, the keychain part would sound an alarm.

Surely there is some invention method of curtailing these tragedies. Most are just due to oversight--people get too busy and forget.
6 posted on 08/04/2005 7:17:20 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: WestTexasWend

Would this happen if the kid were dropped off at grandma's? How about if the mom stayed home and watched her own kid?

If you are gonna attach blame (that's a bit if!) then don't blame the daycare.


7 posted on 08/04/2005 7:17:37 PM PDT by grassboots.org (I'll Say It Again - The First Freedom is Life.)
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To: WestTexasWend

Well now I know where full-sized cars come from.


8 posted on 08/04/2005 7:20:03 PM PDT by bkepley
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To: Trust but Verify

so you suggest she just walk away from this? In NY now, if you run over a cat or dog and don't stop to try and find the owner - its a crime now. but this mother should walk?


9 posted on 08/04/2005 7:21:20 PM PDT by oceanview
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Surely some creative engineer could devise -- a 2-part device ...

Already done; I had one and it worked great for keeping track of my kid while camping: Parent Pager.

(No, I don't own the company or stock.)

10 posted on 08/04/2005 7:26:26 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional.)
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To: oceanview

I agree that that the daycare changing their policy is going to leave them open for future lawsuits.

I don't agree that jail time serves any purpose, if that's what you're proposing.


11 posted on 08/04/2005 7:30:28 PM PDT by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: oceanview

A stiff jail sentence will do nothing.

Unless the mom has a proven track record of neglect, alcohol or drug abuse, etc., why wouldn't a community service sentence be appropriate?


12 posted on 08/04/2005 7:35:31 PM PDT by linkinpunk
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I'm sorry, how does one get too busy to forget you have a kid? It's called irresponsiblity.


13 posted on 08/04/2005 7:36:24 PM PDT by Vor Lady (O, ace, a, omen, etta, usi...)
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To: WestTexasWend
White says, "........it could happen to any of us.

NO, it couldn't. Speak the truth, harsh though it may be. This is infanticide disguised as utter, unbelievable stupidity, or it is utter, unbelievable stupidity.

And, if she's that stupid, do you want her driving a two ton hunk of metal down the street toward you? Or maybe when your kids are crossing the street? How about when they're taking your wife to the hospital in an ambulance - you want her in front of you on the road?

14 posted on 08/04/2005 7:43:39 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s......you weren't really there.)
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To: linkinpunk

as long as she faces some review of the incident. I would question her, her co-workers, to see if they notice if she routinely puts anything in the rear seat like a purse or a briefcase - something that would have normally caused her to use the rear seat when exiting the car for work.


15 posted on 08/04/2005 7:45:29 PM PDT by oceanview
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< NO, it couldn't. Speak the truth, harsh though it may be. This is infanticide disguised as utter, unbelievable stupidity, or it is utter, unbelievable stupidity. >

There was a time when I would agree with you. But...

My nephew has NEVER taken the baby to day care. Two week ago his wife had an appointment and he had to take the baby to daycare on the way to work. He drives by it everyday. He just never has to stop in the morning. He has picked her up in the evening many times.

He drove right past the daycare and parked in his usual spot at work. He was just sitting down at his desk when a co-worker called and asked about the baby left in the car. He panicked and nearly fell down the steps running back to his car. When he got there a crowd had formed. Most everyone said they had had similar "scares".

We get into habits. He got out of the car and did not look back. His seats have high backs and you really have to look to see a car seat back there. However, his wife, because she's heard and read about all of these episodes of babies being forgotten, had left a message on his phone at the office the NIGHT before to ask if he had indeed dropped the baby off. She fully intended to call when she thought he had arrived there that morning too.


16 posted on 08/04/2005 8:07:17 PM PDT by GOP_Proud (...when the Iraqi soldiers stand up, we will stand down...GWB)
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To: WestTexasWend

I just HEARD the 911 call. Heartbreaking. I also heard something that I hope is true. The reporter said police told the TV station that the baby could have died within minutes, not hours. I hope he didn't suffer too long.


17 posted on 08/04/2005 8:07:34 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana (There will be no bad talk or loud talk in this place. CB Stubblefield.)
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Well, I'll not argue the point.


18 posted on 08/04/2005 8:15:56 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s......you weren't really there.)
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To: hispanarepublicana

There's a video link at the bottom of the photo boxes (just right of the story) on the KCBD page...the 911 audio is part of that video package.

Hard to listen to...even harder to imagine being any of the people connected with that call.


19 posted on 08/04/2005 8:22:11 PM PDT by WestTexasWend
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To: WestTexasWend

I'm hearing that her husband is a professor.


20 posted on 08/04/2005 8:26:02 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana (There will be no bad talk or loud talk in this place. CB Stubblefield.)
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