[FostersExport]

"To say that gravity brought all of the material of the universe together into a tiny ball before the Big Bang is to say that before that tiny ball there was a different kind of universe with all kinds of material scattered about, and therefore the universe didn't begin with the Big Bang."

Correct me if I’m wrong, but that isn’t necessarily out of the question is it? The Big Bang only really accounts for our 'current' universe.

[adorno]

The Big Bang only really accounts for our 'current' universe.

Then you and I may be in agreement that the universe didn't begin with the Big Bang. There was definetely something there before the 'current universe'. But then, shouldn't everything that ever was, including time and the current and previous iterations and versions of the universe be called 'the universe'?

[malakhi]

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