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Senators say Alaska visit confirms climate change (fire at will)
AP ^ | Wed, Aug. 17, 2005 | Dan Joling

Posted on 08/17/2005 3:15:40 PM PDT by nairBResal

ANCHORAGE, Alaska - Anyone doubting the effects of human activity on global climate change should talk to the people it affects in Alaska and the Yukon, U.S. Sen. John McCain said Wednesday.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: Alaska
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1 posted on 08/17/2005 3:15:40 PM PDT by nairBResal
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To: nairBResal

Where to start?


2 posted on 08/17/2005 3:16:33 PM PDT by datura (Molon Labe)
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To: nairBResal

He really is a tool for the left.


3 posted on 08/17/2005 3:16:39 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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To: nairBResal

I saw an article about McCain, Hillary, Graham and Collins or Snowe going to Alaska for this reason..

They all already had their minds made up...and they are going in the summer...

I think this is just another chance for Johnny and Hillary to make out..


4 posted on 08/17/2005 3:17:32 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Txsleuth

Now that's "bumping uglies".


5 posted on 08/17/2005 3:18:14 PM PDT by datura (Molon Labe)
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To: nairBResal
Climate changing: Yes.

Man causing it: BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

6 posted on 08/17/2005 3:18:37 PM PDT by xcamel (Deep Red, stuck in a "bleu" state.)
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To: nairBResal

Yep they would know. End of debate.


7 posted on 08/17/2005 3:18:42 PM PDT by Elpasser
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To: nairBResal
MOC Observes Changes in the South Polar Cap:
Evidence for Recent Climate Change on Mars

8 posted on 08/17/2005 3:20:22 PM PDT by Brian328i
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To: Txsleuth
I think this is just another chance for Johnny and Hillary to make out..

Now theres a visual...

9 posted on 08/17/2005 3:20:28 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Islam-Hastening the Second Coming..)
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To: nairBResal
Anyone doubting the effects of human activity on global climate change should talk to the people it affects in Alaska and the Yukon, U.S. Sen. John McCain said Wednesday.

Hey John, make your trip up there at the end of January instead of the middle of August next time.

11 posted on 08/17/2005 3:20:40 PM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: nairBResal

Hasn't the climate always changed? Haven't ice ages come and gone forever?


12 posted on 08/17/2005 3:21:55 PM PDT by JoeGar
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To: nairBResal
Let me be the first to say that we (FL) haven't been hit with back to back, to back, to back hurricanes this year.

OK, I'm knocking on wood..

5.56mm

13 posted on 08/17/2005 3:22:12 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: nairBResal








Senators say Alaska visit confirms climate change

DAN JOLING
Associated Press

ANCHORAGE, Alaska - Anyone doubting the effects of human activity on global climate change should talk to the people it affects in Alaska and the Yukon, U.S. Sen. John McCain said Wednesday.

Fresh from a trip to Barrow, America's northernmost city, McCain said anecdotes from Alaskans and residents of the Yukon Territory confirm scientific evidence of global warming.

"We are convinced that the overwhelming scientific evidence indicated that climate change is taking place and human activities play a very large role," McCain said.

McCain, accompanied by Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., Susan Collins, R-Maine, and Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., spoke to villagers in Canada whose spruce trees are being attacked by the northward spread of spruce beetles. On Alaska's northern coast, they met Native Alaskans dealing with melting permafrost and coastal erosion.

"I don't think there is any doubt left for anyone who actually looks at the science," Clinton said. "There are still some holdouts, but they are fighting a losing battle. The science is overwhelming, but what is deeply concerning is that climate change is accelerating."

Graham, who declared himself "on the fence" about climate change legislation, said an academic debate about global warming is different in the North.

"If you can go to the Native people and listen to their stories and walk away with any doubt that something's going on, I just think you're not listening," he said.

McCain and Sen. Joe Lieberman, D-Conn., are sponsoring legislation that would limit greenhouse gas emissions from utilities and industry. The Climate Stewardship and Innovation Act would cap U.S. emission levels at levels recorded in 2000.

Opponents of the legislation, including Sen. Ted Stevens, R-Alaska, chairman of the Senate Commerce, Science and Transportation Committee, attribute warming to cyclical geophysical forces.

McCain said the trip has been valuable for the accumulation of evidence that can be used to push the bill. Ultimately, he said, Americans will demand laws to decrease emissions, just as they demanded campaign financing reform.

"It's coming up from the bottom," he said. "It's the special interests vs. the people's interests and I still have enough confidence in our system of government that the people's interest will ultimately prevail."

Collins said the senators were approached by Alaska guides who thanked them for taking time to look at how climate change affects Alaska. They echoed what indigenous people in Canada told the senators.

"I don't think anyone who has talked to these individuals as well as the scientists would have any doubt that this is a real and growing problem," she said.

McCain said his bill continues to face opposition from industry, but that may change from businesses that operate overseas.

"They have to do business in Europe, and thereby comply with the requirements for the reduction of greenhouse gas emissions," he said. "You will see more and more international corporations going in that direction because they have to."

Graham couched the argument for climate change, as well as another major Alaska issue, petroleum drilling of the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, as a national security measure. Continued dependence on foreign fossil fuels makes America vulnerable, he said.

"The sooner we get started with alternative energy sources and recognize that fossil fuels makes us less secure as a nation, and more dangerous as a planet, the better off we'll be," Graham said.

Opponents who ignore evidence of humans contributing to climate change, Clinton said, are participating in a trend of turning Washington, D.C. into what she calls an "evidence-free zone."

"You just keep saying something no matter how untrue and unfactual it might be, over and over and over again, and try to drive the politics to meet your ideological or commercial agenda," she said. "That is a grave disservice to our country."

The senators planned to travel to Seward later Wednesday.






14 posted on 08/17/2005 3:23:05 PM PDT by ElCapusto (For ENGLISH, press one.)
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To: M Kehoe

LOL---I think your state better get ready to be hit by Hurricane Katherine Harris...


15 posted on 08/17/2005 3:24:09 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: nairBResal
Senators say Alaska visit confirms climate change

"ANCHORAGE, Alaska Senator John McCain says his trip through Alaska and the Yukon has confirmed his belief that humans are contributing to global warming and climate change.

"The Arizona Republican is traveling around the state with three other senators -- Democrat Hilary Clinton of New York and Republicans Susan Collins of Maine and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina. The purpose of their trip is to see firsthand the effects of global warming.

"McCain says the North and South poles are the miner's canaries on the issue, showing the effects of global warming first.

"McCain is sponsoring legislation with Connecticut Democrat Joe Lieberman that would limit greenhouse gas emissions from the industry and transportation sectors of the country."

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Source: http://www.kold.com/Global/story.asp?S=3733694

16 posted on 08/17/2005 3:24:43 PM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: Elpasser
Opponents who ignore evidence of humans contributing to climate change, Clinton said, are participating in a trend of turning Washington, D.C. into what she calls an "evidence-free zone."

"You just keep saying something no matter how untrue and unfactual it might be, over and over and over again, and try to drive the politics to meet your ideological or commercial agenda," she said. "That is a grave disservice to our country."
See? The debate was finished--when it was started--and its time for YOU to nod your head in agreement.
17 posted on 08/17/2005 3:25:12 PM PDT by Brian328i
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Graham, who declared himself "on the fence" ...

He spends most of his time there.

Great group to travel to Alaska. They have private washrooms in the Senate Office Building to do what they did up North.

18 posted on 08/17/2005 3:25:25 PM PDT by ElCapusto (For ENGLISH, press one.)
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McCain said anecdotes from Alaskans and residents of the Yukon Territory confirm scientific evidence of global warming.

Anecdotes as science, huh?
19 posted on 08/17/2005 3:25:26 PM PDT by Rio (Don't make me come over there....)
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To: datura

Well, he goes to Alaska in July and asks, "Where's all the snow and ice?"


20 posted on 08/17/2005 3:25:29 PM PDT by savedbygrace ("No Monday morning quarterback has ever led a team to victory" GW Bush)
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