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Senators say Alaska visit confirms climate change (fire at will)
AP ^ | Wed, Aug. 17, 2005 | Dan Joling

Posted on 08/17/2005 3:15:40 PM PDT by nairBResal

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To: VRWCmember

Even if Senator Dumbass observes climate change firsthand, how does he know it's created by man. Surely you couldn't know that just from going to Alaska and looking around.


61 posted on 08/17/2005 4:43:05 PM PDT by canadiancapitalist
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To: cardinal4
I think this is just another chance for Johnny and Hillary to make out..

Before he gets too far down that road Johnny Boy needs to remember two words . VINCE FOSTER.

62 posted on 08/17/2005 4:44:29 PM PDT by WideGlide (That light at the end of the tunnel might be a muzzle flash.)
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According to Richard C. Hoagland all of the planets (and planetoids) are experiencing global warming.

http://www.enterprisemission.com/hurricane4.htm

Scroll down to the picture with the planets on it.


63 posted on 08/17/2005 4:47:50 PM PDT by HeebrewHammer
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To: ConsentofGoverned
At no point in this discussion have I argued that global warming is occurring. Feel free to read my posts. I do argue that it is ridiculous to think that man, the most powerful life form on this planet, cannot affect the environment. If you have any doubt about the large scale effects of man on the environment, look at the Aral Sea disaster, or the destruction of the Amazon. Mankind can cause incredible damage to the environment if it wishes it. Whether we have caused global warming or not is debatable, but to follow Rush's view that we are like tiny insects who can't affect the Earth is absurd. We can run an experiment if you wish. Detonate 1000 nuclear weapons in the Sahara desert and see how the global climate reacts.
64 posted on 08/17/2005 4:50:26 PM PDT by burzum
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To: burzum
"We can run an experiment if you wish. Detonate 1000 nuclear weapons in the Sahara desert and see how the global climate reacts."
OK you get the 1000 nukes and will drop them on
say Iran and Syria..

as for disasters how about the extinction of dinosaurs now there was global warming-how can we blame man for that?? You are right no proof of anykind that Man is causing global warming . LOL
65 posted on 08/17/2005 4:57:42 PM PDT by ConsentofGoverned (A sucker is born every minute..what are the voters?)
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To: nairBResal
There is a longstanding climate cycle along the Pacific coast -- called the "Pacific Decadal Oscillation". It lasts from 50 to maybe 80 years. From about 1975 to 2000, winters got significantly milder in Alaska and Yukon. In a few years, they should be noticeably colder.

Of course, this is "climate change" -- it's just not the type of climate change the Henny-Pennys are clucking about.
66 posted on 08/17/2005 4:57:59 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: VRWCmember

Seems odd that you'd pick the middle of August to run up to Alaska, claimining you are on some Senate project. Someone must be paying him for a lecture or getting him to discuss stuff real private up there...in the middle of the woods. No chance of CNN showing up on your doorstep.


67 posted on 08/17/2005 5:00:21 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: canadiancapitalist

So, IOW, these four Senators, KNOWING how they were gonna vote...and about the studies..

are WASTING MORE OF OUR MONEY!!!!


68 posted on 08/17/2005 5:06:54 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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Such a dumbass.


69 posted on 08/17/2005 5:07:27 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: ConsentofGoverned
There is a small group of scientists that theorize that global warming may have killed the dinosaurs. I think that the larger group thinks that global cooling due to the dust injected into the atmosphere by a very large meteorite (perhaps the one by the Yucatan Peninsula) is what killed the dinosaurs. I tend to agree with the latter, since 95% of all species were annihilated (which leads me to believe there was a lack of food worldwide--something I wouldn't attribute to global warming).

A more interesting mass extinction was the end of Permian extinction (99% of all species annihilated). It was also likely due to global climate change (probably cooling as well), possibly from a super-plume.
70 posted on 08/17/2005 5:09:15 PM PDT by burzum
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To: nairBResal

OK, so 11,000 years ago when the earth warmed so much that the last ice age ended, what laws did humanity pass, and what regulations did we impose, to stop all of those point sources of carbon dioxide and other nefarious gases that we were putting out. Was that when we banned camp fires for the cleaner burning combustion engine based on burning refined petroleum?


71 posted on 08/17/2005 5:13:11 PM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: burzum

"A more interesting mass extinction was the end of Permian extinction (99% of all species annihilated). It was also likely due to global climate change (probably cooling as well), possibly from a super-plume."

it is amazing the mom nature can be much more lethal than anything man can do..lets hope humanity can survive long enough to avoid mass extinctions through tech. although when ol sol goes to red giant state we are toast LOL


72 posted on 08/17/2005 5:15:52 PM PDT by ConsentofGoverned (A sucker is born every minute..what are the voters?)
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To: trubluolyguy
The funny thing is, I was actually in Alaska last week and it WAS unseasonably hot...to my advantage, I might add! I don't have a set opinion for the press on the topic at this time, but for the moment I hope most can enjoy the following:

  "And then there's global warming. I didn’t even know the details on global warming so I looked it up. There are a lot of vying statistics, but I think the crux of it is the temperature has gone up roughly 1.8 degrees over a hundred years. Am I the only one who finds that amazingly stable? Hey, I'm happy it's gone up. I'm always a little chilly anyway. Then people ask me if I'm worried about the effects of global warming on my kids. Well, obviously I love my kids and I want them to live to be a 100. So that's another 1.8. My kids’ kids? Three point six. I'll just tell them we moved to Phoenix. "

— Dennis Miller

73 posted on 08/17/2005 5:20:18 PM PDT by DaughterofEve (Proverbs 3:5-6)
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To: cardinal4

Who'd be pitchin'?


74 posted on 08/17/2005 5:26:10 PM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: satchmodog9

It must not take as much brains to fly an A-4 as the Navy wants one to believe...


...maybe to fly and A-4 and *not get shot down* requires a little more...


75 posted on 08/17/2005 5:39:53 PM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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From the AP: Fresh from a trip to Barrow, America's northernmost city, McCain said anecdotes from Alaskans and residents of the Yukon Territory confirm scientific evidence of global warming.

So anecdotal evidence is sufficient criteria for confirming theories now?

76 posted on 08/17/2005 6:28:14 PM PDT by NYCynic
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To: ElCapusto
McCain said anecdotes from Alaskans and residents of the Yukon Territory confirm scientific evidence of global warming.

Did you ask 'em about Bigfoot, senator?

Huh? Did ya?

Enquiring minds want to know!

77 posted on 08/17/2005 6:40:00 PM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: nairBResal

Senators say Alaska visit confirms climate change (fire at will)


Dinosaurs died

The earth moved

Day turned into night

etc.,


Gawd and tax payer money funds this cr*p!


78 posted on 08/17/2005 6:42:16 PM PDT by SunnySide (Ephes2:8 ByGraceYou'veBeenSavedThruFaithAGiftOfGodSoNoOneCanBoast)
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To: nairBResal

RECORD COLD GRIPS MUCH OF THE NATION IN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER:
TWO-MONTH PERIOD IS THE COLDEST ON RECORD IN THE UNITED STATES

January 5, 2001 — NOAA scientists announced today that the U.S. national temperature during the November through December two-month period was the coldest such period on record. The scientists worked with data from the worlds largest statistical weather database at NOAA's National Climatic Data Center in Asheville, N.C. (Click image for larger view.)

Following the second coldest November on record in the U.S., below normal temperatures continued to grip much of the nation in December. With an average temperature of 28.9 F, December 2000 was the seventh coldest December since national records began in 1895. Jay Lawrimore, chief of the Climate Monitoring Branch at the National Climatic Data Center, said, "Two months in a row of much below average temperatures resulted in the coldest November-December U.S. temperature on record, 33.8 F." This broke the old record of 34.2 F set in 1898. Near record cold temperatures for the same period occurred most recently in 1985 and 1983, when the nation's average temperature was 34.6 F and 34.8 F respectively, the 3rd and 5th coldest such two-month periods on record.

Forty-three states within the contiguous U.S. recorded


79 posted on 08/17/2005 6:48:35 PM PDT by stocksthatgoup (Polls = Proof that when the MSM want your opinion they will give it to you.)
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To: nairBResal

The Native Alaskans here in Southeast Alaska have noted that the glaciers cycle over an 800 year period.


80 posted on 08/17/2005 6:48:35 PM PDT by tongass kid
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