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To: curiosity

There are many arguments that evolution is part of intelligent design and a rather beautiful and elegant part of that design to boot. In the same way man guided the evolution of canines to todays great danes and chiuauas so too is there a divine hand in the evolution and creation of all the world's creatures.

What's funny is that some of the people who support intelligent design the most aren't ignorant bible thumping conservatives but pysisists and astronomers on the bleeding edge of science who must deal with the impossibility of all this being a random coincidence on a daily basis.

And that is why intelligent design will ultimately succeed because it's not just faith which backs it up its the fact that if the "settings" of the universe were off by a billionth of a billionth of a percentage point (speed of light, electron volt, etc) the life, the universe and everything would simply not exist at all.


27 posted on 08/18/2005 5:28:54 PM PDT by pcx99
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To: pcx99
the fact that if the "settings" of the universe were off by a billionth of a billionth

Add another billionth to the fraction to get in the ballpark. The universe of the Big Bang with inflation is so much bigger than the Hubble volume that the Hubble volume could be overlooked as nothing more than a grain of sand in the entire earth. The universe can look flat when such a microscopic portion is looked at by itself.

54 posted on 08/18/2005 5:38:34 PM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and open the Land Office)
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To: pcx99
There are many arguments that evolution is part of intelligent design

That's not the sense in which the term "intelligent design" is commonly used today, unfortunately. It has come to mean the assertion that life cannot have evolved in through Darwinian processes, and further, that this can be scientifically demonstrated.

Which is really a shame, because it is perfectly reasonable to hold to a philosophical view that the universe was intelligently designed, that all its laws and constants were set "just right" so as to allow for the volution of man. There's nothing in this view offensive to modern science. Now, however, thanks to crackpots like Behe, there is really no good label for this perfectly respectable philosophical view.

74 posted on 08/18/2005 5:46:09 PM PDT by curiosity (.)
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To: pcx99
What's funny is that some of the people who support intelligent design the most aren't ignorant bible thumping conservatives but pysisists and astronomers on the bleeding edge of science

The "bleeding edge of science" is more commonly known as "The Fringe" (UFOs, ESP, Crypto-zoology, Cold Fusion) - it finds acorns rarer than a blind pig

85 posted on 08/18/2005 5:59:05 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Natural Selection is the Free Market : Intelligent Design is the Centrally Planned Economy)
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To: pcx99
What's funny is that some of the people who support intelligent design the most aren't ignorant bible thumping conservatives but pysisists and astronomers on the bleeding edge of science who must deal with the impossibility of all this being a random coincidence on a daily basis.

That's not true. You've been sold a bill of goods by people who collect millions of dollars from donors who are fervent believers in creationism and are willing to push their belief with their money.

Look up the "Discovery Institute". Their money comes from the moonies, and a large donor that thinks the US Constitution needs to be replaced by a Christian theocracy. No joke.

Anything can be sold with enough money. Even junk science.

104 posted on 08/18/2005 6:14:12 PM PDT by narby (There are Bloggers, and then there are Freepers.)
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To: pcx99

There is some significance to the Creation of Scripture leading to an understanding of what man is in relationship to God. Some of that significance is obscured when one attempts to avoid some literal statements in Scripture to condone an evolutionary worldview.

This doesn't insist some arguments and proofs observed by 'evolutionists' aren't worthy of consideration, rather, IMHO science that fails to humble itself to Scripture isn't worthy science in the first place.


859 posted on 08/20/2005 8:12:02 PM PDT by Cvengr (<;^))
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