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To: aft_lizard; plain talk
"Bologney, I have had arguments with died in the wool pony tail wearing dirty frock and pocket protecting evcolutionist who speak of micro and macro evolution as evidence in evolution. Hell doing a google of micro evolution brings up 4.2 million hits, an awful lot for making things up."

"Speciation is at the boundary between microevolution and macroevolution. Microevolution is a change over the genetics in a population's allele frequencies, mainly by genetic drift and natural selection. ...Yet the cumulative change during millions of speciation episodes over vast tracts of time must account for macroevolution, the level of change that is evident over the time scale of the fossil record."

All that says is that the creationist-derived terminology has infested the debate/literature. Its called "memetics", and is exactly the same process by which yesterday's "communists" have become today's "liberals".

And the existence of a lot of "Google" hits means squat. I suspect if you did a search on "flat earth", you'd find a pretty large number of hits, too.

506 posted on 08/19/2005 3:12:02 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: Wonder Warthog
All that says is that the creationist-derived terminology has infested the debate/literature

Oh really? The following is also in my son's College Biology textbook.

"An evolution Theme More Pervasive than Ever ... And as the one central theme that unifies all of biology by accounting for both the unity and diversity of life, evolution is woven into the fabric of every chapter of our book."

There you go. Liberalism, evolution and U.N. style political correctness in one tidy package inside students' Biology textbooks.

The macro and micro terms are indeed real and germane to the debate over evolution being taught in Biology classes because the terms themselves are being taught. They also allow the discussion to get to the core debate which is macro evolution and not quibbling over whether birds' beaks have evolved.

529 posted on 08/19/2005 6:20:21 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: Wonder Warthog

So micro and macro evolution only appeared in text books, and scientific debate because us crackpots inserted the terms? You havee lost me.


625 posted on 08/19/2005 11:02:13 AM PDT by aft_lizard (This space waiting for a post election epiphany it now is: Question Everything)
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