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To: Modernman

Modernman: "As related to body size, our brain is bigger than the brains of most other animals on the planet. Your brain requires a lot of energy to keep it alive. So, from an evolutionary point of view, a large brain is a double-edged sword."

Well, if I am to believe evolution, our brain was not always so large. Obviously, large brains were superior for survival or they would not have propagated. Why is this not the case for other species??

Modernman: "For most animals, evolution has taken them into a different direction where the process of evolution towards sentience is unlikely."

Even if I am to accept your argument (which has obvious and numerous holes), I must contend that only ONE species has evolved to sentience. Consider that there are thousands of other species of animals, not to mention plants. This evidence does not fit assertions made by Darwinists.

Macro evolution is far from a proven theory. It should be presented as such!!

Modernman:"What would, for example, push horse species' into developing higher intelligence?"

Survival. Is that not the basis for all Darwinistic evolution??? Man could exterminate every horse in the world and they would have no (or very little) power to refuse...


596 posted on 08/19/2005 9:57:31 AM PDT by visually_augmented (I was blind, but now I see)
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To: visually_augmented
Obviously, large brains were superior for survival or they would not have propagated. Why is this not the case for other species??

Different traits work to fill different niches. We're smarter than lions, but would you want to be dropped naked and unarmed on the savannah near a pack of these cats?

Other species have hit pretty much optimal designs for what they do. A shark is dumb as dirt, but it would be difficult to improve on the design. What environmental pressures would serve to make sharks evolve higher intelligence? Would being smarter really make a shark a better hunter? It might, but the tradeoff in energy required to feed its larger brain might be an evolutionary drawback.

Our ancestors developed intelligence because it was what they needed to survive. Before the increase in intelligence, hominid species' were not all that succesful and came close to extinction on several occasions.

Even if I am to accept your argument (which has obvious and numerous holes), I must contend that only ONE species has evolved to sentience.

The cheetah is the fastest land animal, of the thousands of species out there. The elephant is the largest land animal, of the thousands of species out there. Similarly, we are the smartest species in existence. However, that's just a matter of degree. Elephants, chimps, gorillas, whales and dolphins are also intelligent, just not as intelligent as humans.

Since a leopard is slower than a cheetah, is that an argument against evolution, in your opinion?

Survival. Is that not the basis for all Darwinistic evolution??? Man could exterminate every horse in the world and they would have no (or very little) power to refuse...

There is no master plan when it comes to survival. Species respond to external stimuli and evolve accordingly. Sometimes, those stimuli occur too rapidly for species to adapt, so they go extinct.

At this time, though, there is no environmental pressure for, say, hippos to evolve a higher degree of intelligence.

610 posted on 08/19/2005 10:21:13 AM PDT by Modernman ("A conservative government is an organized hypocrisy." -Disraeli)
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