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Unusual recruits: Ivy Leaguers and honor students are signing up to serve
World Magazine ^ | 8/18/05 | Lynn Vincent

Posted on 08/19/2005 7:07:58 AM PDT by ZGuy

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1 posted on 08/19/2005 7:07:59 AM PDT by ZGuy
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To: ZGuy
Ivy Leaguers and honor students are signing up to serve

The Ivy League faculties & alumni must shudder in horror when they see this.

comedian Bill Maher used the occasion to reinforce the stereotype that America scrapes its military from the bottom of the population barrel.

Is it safe to say that Bill Maher is the equivilant of diseased pig vomit? Punk!!
2 posted on 08/19/2005 7:18:31 AM PDT by kb2614 ("Speaking Truth to Power" - What idiots say when they want to sound profound!!)
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To: ZGuy
It seems the population of our military services is more representative of the general population than some would like us to believe.
3 posted on 08/19/2005 7:20:57 AM PDT by RAY ( Heroes not, the U.S. Supreme Court!!)
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To: ZGuy

Kudos to you who join up. I hope that your tours were as good as mine all were. Beuno Suerte.


4 posted on 08/19/2005 7:21:54 AM PDT by highlymotivated (They call him Bubba! Bubba! As corrupt a President as one could be...)
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To: ZGuy

Low-hanging fruit, huh?


5 posted on 08/19/2005 7:24:13 AM PDT by AirForceBrat23
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To: kb2614
If this is all true and reflect a real trend then I am truly amazed at this younger generation. Given all the garbage they are fed and them to actually discover the right thing to do - and pretty much on their own, I would bet - seems almost miraculous to me.
6 posted on 08/19/2005 7:27:27 AM PDT by CasearianDaoist
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To: CasearianDaoist

No lie there. I often wondered how my Marine Corps would perform with the new generation at the helm. And you know what? They kicked ass and took names, just like they've done since 1775.

The kids of today are awesome and I think that the ONE good thing to come out of the Klintoon debacle was the fact that kids saw the excesses of a slob and his enablers and revolted against it.

Also, I've often wondered if abortion, and the liberals propensity for getting them, has led to a drop in THEIR demographics, while ours climbs.


7 posted on 08/19/2005 7:32:52 AM PDT by highlymotivated (If American ever falls, a STINKING LIBERAL will be behind it.)
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To: CasearianDaoist
Unlike the baby boomers, who allowed 2 million plus to be murdered and another 30 years of darkness on the world, aided and abetted by the likes of teddy the swimmer and jimmy the peanut.
8 posted on 08/19/2005 7:35:39 AM PDT by dts32041 (Shinkichi: Massuer, did you see that? Zatôichi: I don't see much)
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To: highlymotivated
Also, I've often wondered if abortion, and the liberals propensity for getting them, has led to a drop in THEIR demographics, while ours climbs.

This has way more to do with it than many are willing to admit.

9 posted on 08/19/2005 7:39:34 AM PDT by Terabitten (Life, liberty, and the pursuit of all who threaten it.)
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To: ZGuy

I work with alot of Veterans, and many of them are BRILLIANT. Sure, there are plenty of average to low average guys, but there are far more smart, bright, and intelligent types in the Military than I ever thought before I met these people. (Figures, back before this, I was a liberal idiot with all those stupid predjudices).


10 posted on 08/19/2005 7:39:42 AM PDT by Paradox (Budweiser, fighting for the Right to Keep and Beer Arms.)
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To: AirForceBrat23
Low-hanging fruit, huh

The libs are pushing military service as a way to make the military "more like them". That's sort of like lying down under a steam roller in order to promote socialism....

This sounds like that Goldie Hawn movie where every other word is yuck, or gross or do I have to do it right now????

11 posted on 08/19/2005 7:39:46 AM PDT by i.l.e. (May the holy spirit be with you...Wakan Tankan Nici Un)
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To: CasearianDaoist

It shouldn't surprise you. This is the Echo Boom generation, the kids of the self-centered Baby Boomers who want to take their lives in a different and more meaningful direction than simple self-gratification. This is a pro-life generation because they are the ones given life rather than being aborted. It is a pro-marriage generation because so many of their parents needlessly divorced. While their parents' generation fled to Canada and stayed in college for 8 years to avoid service, these kids won't.


12 posted on 08/19/2005 7:40:50 AM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (Where is Chris Lehane??)
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To: highlymotivated
I did not mean to call anyone a liar, ans I should not have worded my comments the way I did. I am just distrusting of media in general these days, and for good reason too.

What I really meant to say was that if these are not just isolated cases then my faith in the nation is restored.

I have no doubt that the Corp can find people, that really does not surprise me. I am surprised to see Ivy Leaguers of the current day go into to any of the services at all.

That is really not a comment on them - rather it is a comment on the environment which has nurtured.

You can bet that kids like these have had multiple "counselors" and "role models" try very hard to talk them out of this.

BTW, I see where Pataki's kid (his youngest?) took a commission in the Corp this summer. That surprised me. His parents actually look proud about it. Imagine that.

13 posted on 08/19/2005 7:46:04 AM PDT by CasearianDaoist
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This thread seems like a perfect place to put the following quote from Mark Steyn, discussing the condescending attitude the left has for our noble and capable military:

Ever since America’s all-adult, all-volunteer army went into Iraq, the anti-war crowd have made a sustained effort to characterise them as ‘children’. If a 13-year-old wants to have an abortion, that’s her decision and her parents shouldn’t get a look-in. If a 21-year-old wants to drop to the Oval Office shagpile and chow down on Bill Clinton, she’s a grown woman and free to do what she wants. But, if a 22- or 25- or 37-year old is serving his country overseas, he’s a wee ‘child’ who isn’t really old enough to know what he’s doing.

I get many emails from soldiers in Iraq, and they sound a lot more grown-up than most Ivy League professors and certainly than Maureen Dowd, who writes as if she’s auditioning for a minor supporting role in Sex and the City. The infantilisation of the military promoted by the Left is deeply insulting to America’s warriors but it suits the anti-war crowd’s purposes. It enables them to drone ceaselessly that ‘of course’ they ‘support our troops’, because they want to stop these poor confused moppets from being exploited by the Bush war machine.

14 posted on 08/19/2005 7:47:10 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: dts32041
No argument here, and I am a boomer.

As a whole, my generation disgusts me (Boomer freepers excepted, natch.)

15 posted on 08/19/2005 7:47:50 AM PDT by CasearianDaoist
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To: Dems_R_Losers

Well some of them at least. But I hope are right.


16 posted on 08/19/2005 7:49:12 AM PDT by CasearianDaoist
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To: Dems_R_Losers

Well some of them at least. But I hope are right.


17 posted on 08/19/2005 7:49:20 AM PDT by CasearianDaoist
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To: ZGuy
Good article. Although the perception still lingers, it's been a long, long time since the military accepted the dregs.

The Armed Forces Qualification Test (AFQT) that everyone must take to get in is normed to the general population, so it provides some indicators of military quality. Scores range from 1-99 and a score of 90 means you have scored better than projected for 90% of the population; a score of 40 better than 40% of the population, etc.

Over the past several years, the Regular Army normally required a score of 31, although it sometimes dipped to 26. In any event, the bottom 25-30% of the population in the US has not been eligible to join. Further, through last year, over half the Army's recruits had scored over 50 on the AFQT very year since the 1980s, so on the average we've been getting people of above average intelligence for quite some time.

18 posted on 08/19/2005 7:50:11 AM PDT by mark502inf
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To: kb2614
Bill Maher is a comedian? Who knew!
19 posted on 08/19/2005 7:51:05 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: dead

That was great. Thanks.


20 posted on 08/19/2005 7:52:48 AM PDT by ryan71 (Speak softly and carry a BIG STICK)
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