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An armed society is a polite society.
1 posted on 08/21/2005 6:02:36 AM PDT by CholeraJoe
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To: CholeraJoe

I've always said that most problems in life can be solved with either a gun or a welder.

283 posted on 08/21/2005 8:52:38 AM PDT by yellowhammer
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To: CholeraJoe
Since you're only a peasant, you're catching hell from the bootlicking contingent here.

There are a substantial number of "conservatives" here that believe only our lords and knights should be "allowed" to open carry, so you've already gotten on their badside by simply doing that.

As for "intimidating someone with a weapon", that is BS. You didn't draw down on them. You don't give up the right to a little peace and quiet simply because you are armed.

Of course, if you were a cop, those same posters would not be accusing you of "intimidating someone with a weapon", since in their minds cops are superior to "average citizens". Quite the contrary, they'd be having orgasms over the "brave police officer" that enforced their will.

I think you did good. This country needs more folks like you willing to confront problems directly.

290 posted on 08/21/2005 9:01:46 AM PDT by Mulder (“The spirit of resistance is so valuable, that I wish it to be always kept alive" Thomas Jefferson)
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You a Damn Lucky nobody called the Police on you,Concealed means concealed.
292 posted on 08/21/2005 9:04:56 AM PDT by cmsgop ( I DON'T C.A.I.R. !!!!!!!!!)
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To: CholeraJoe

You sir, are an @$$.


298 posted on 08/21/2005 9:09:12 AM PDT by opinionator
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To: CholeraJoe

Sounds like a case of Napoleon Syndrome.


303 posted on 08/21/2005 9:12:52 AM PDT by opinionator
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To: CholeraJoe
"An armed society is a polite society."

Yes! By definition!

306 posted on 08/21/2005 9:13:56 AM PDT by nightdriver
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To: CholeraJoe

Sorry, Joe.......gotta side with the critics on this one. It was over the top.

I'm 5'8", 185+ (no, not fat either), and I neither carry nor even own a gun. I've never had a need for one. I have had to confront people before and I've never even had to take a swing. Demeanor and confidence (not to mention manners) can take you a long way in the overwhelming majority of cases.

As someone else pointed out, you more than likely wouldn't have done this if you hadn't been armed. That sidearm doesn't make the man, my friend. It's purely for self defense. Your comment about how many times your wearing it has saved your bacon tells me a lot. Most of us don't go looking for trouble. Either you live in a particularly dangerous area (which is possible, I suppose), or you have unwittingly allowed that weapon on your hip to affect your attitude.

Be very careful, and please re-evaluate your attitude towards being an armed citizen........for YOUR own sake.


319 posted on 08/21/2005 9:30:33 AM PDT by RightOnline
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They were there first. If you didn't like the noise, leave or put in ear plugs. How dare you give gun owners a bad image. Large groups of people are ALLWAYS noisy, drunk or not.


328 posted on 08/21/2005 9:36:03 AM PDT by US_MilitaryRules ("Girl drowns as Ted Kennedy visits Nantucket")
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Yo! The only question to ask yourself is whether you would have done the the same thing if the revelers were well-armed drunk-ugly bikers wearing really bad 'colors' sobering up from a week-long 'fest'?

Now that would have been something to write about.

'There I was, minding my own business, doing my best to ignore the ruckus over in the corner of the cafe.

Twenty or so really bad-ass drunken bikers were slopping their brew all over the place, hollerin' and shoutin' at each other, pawing their 'mama's and utterly destroying the ambience to which I am accustomed to when I walk into a cafe at 4:30 in the morning.

‘I didn't expect anyone else to be up and about at the ungodly hour and figured the place would be deserted. (I did notice about 20 or so Harley's parked in front of the joint, but paid it no mind.)

‘Enough was Enough,’ I told myself. So I stood up, walked over to the out-of-control bunch of freaks, swung back my jacked to reveal the large bag of stash I was holding, circled the tables a couple of times, eye-balled the chicks and wondered which one I should sit next to.

'Deciding that the mama with the crowbar screwed through her nose was the pick of the litter, I pulled up a chair, waved to the bros, unholstered my stash and tossed it on the table. '

(To be continued . . . ) ;>

329 posted on 08/21/2005 9:36:32 AM PDT by Eastbound
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Sounds like an attempt to compensate for undersized anatomy.


344 posted on 08/21/2005 9:48:35 AM PDT by Natural Law
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Joe, with all due respect this was very dangerous behaviour.

If these punks had decided they weren't afraid of your 9mm you would have had to use it.

The jury might then decide that you had provoked the whole episode and convicted you of murder or assault with a deadly weapon.

Being armed requires more self-restraint, not less. Sometimes you have to put up with more crap than you would otherwise.

Remember, 12 people too stupid to lie their way out of jury duty may well sit in judgement of you.

Please do be careful.

354 posted on 08/21/2005 10:08:55 AM PDT by LibKill (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. - Benjamin Franklin)
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I can't leave this alone.

Been tryin to let it go by all morning but just have to say something.

Loud AHs in restaurants is a personel pet peeve of mine. However, You committed a real crime in response to their social faux pas. They were AHs. You oughta be brought up on charges for reckless endangerment of everyone in that restaurant that morning.

If one of those drunk kids had drawn down on you and bullets flew, killing and or injuring god knows how many kids or waiters or cooks or other patrons .... given you were still breathing ... you'd get 20 years. Maybe life.

You are stupid stupid man.


374 posted on 08/21/2005 10:23:06 AM PDT by mercy (never again a patsy for Bill Gates - spyware and viri free for over TWO YEARS now)
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And what would you have done if they told you to F***off? Shoot them? You should have left if you didn't like the atmosphere. If you go looking for trouble, sooner or later you will find it.
377 posted on 08/21/2005 10:24:05 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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It's one thing to be ignorant. It's another to let everyone else know.


381 posted on 08/21/2005 10:27:03 AM PDT by bigsigh
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404 posted on 08/21/2005 10:50:11 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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It's truly amazing how many on this thread are more than willing to tolerate the intolerable in fact they seem willing to grovel before knavish behavior and therefor encourage it to blossom into full blown villainy.

Of course I believe that you are in an open carry state and therefor within the law as the God given right to protect ones self is amended in your particular state.

421 posted on 08/21/2005 11:29:27 AM PDT by fella (In law nothing is certain but the expense. - S. Butler)
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What state do you live in? Was this a dream you had?


424 posted on 08/21/2005 11:32:18 AM PDT by The Westerner
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I had a similar incident while attempting to retrieve my called in take out order. A large group of Mexican laborers were in front of me. One of their buddies came out of the restroom and attempted to get in line in front of me.
When he failed to respond to English I removed him from in front of me. One of his buddies moved toward me and asked "What, are you going to fight all of us?" I said "No, I will only fight him, I'll shoot anyone else who attempts to join in." They all left quickly and quietly. This was in Texas, concealed carry. They never saw my weapon but obviously (and correctly) assumed I had one.
434 posted on 08/21/2005 11:46:18 AM PDT by Feckless
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If your son or daughter had come home and told you about some grumpy geezer with a sidearm pacing around their table at 4:30 in the morning, I have a feeling you'd feel quite different about it.

You were out of line.


443 posted on 08/21/2005 12:00:18 PM PDT by Bullish (Proudly and consistently hating the Clinton's since 1992)
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I strongly support right-to-carry laws for all 50 states; but I'm not sure if I'm impressed with this story.


451 posted on 08/21/2005 12:17:22 PM PDT by Junior_G
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