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To: OKSooner
The restaurant is private property,

Er, um. I think case law and the US Civil Rights code would state that any establishment open to the public is not private property.

139 posted on 08/21/2005 7:07:17 AM PDT by CholeraJoe ("Cowboy the f*ck up!" LT Waters in "Tears of the Sun")
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To: CholeraJoe

That kind of attitude got within one Justice of banning the Boy Scouts.


148 posted on 08/21/2005 7:10:08 AM PDT by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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To: CholeraJoe
Wrong-o. You saw that sign that said "No shirt, no shoes, no service?" That sign is there because your presence there is at the owner's discretion. He can ax you to leave, or deny you service, if he doesn't like your looks.

For example, the next guy who walks into his place with a sidearm on his hip is going to be less welcome than you were.

Face it, you screwed up, and hopefully learned a lesson from it that you can pass on to others, including many in this forum.

I once went to an all-night diner in Fort Worth, Texas called The Pink Pony with my wife and one of her friends, and all I can say is I'm glad you weren't there, because everyone in the place was drunk and rowdy, including the three of us. The management didn't mind, as a matter of fact they expected it. It was 1:00 AM on Sunday morning...

160 posted on 08/21/2005 7:15:35 AM PDT by OKSooner (And besides, you're not the PO-lice.)
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To: CholeraJoe

"Er, um. I think case law and the US Civil Rights code would state that any establishment open to the public is not private property."

Joe- you aren't a lawyer, are you? Neither am I, but here in Northern Virginia, some restaurants do not allow you to conceal/carry in their establishments.

Why? well I didn't really understand why. It seemed hysterically anti-gun, and so I avoid those places that I know about that have this policy. I get it now though. You are the reason.

The point is, they can do this because it's their property and they can set the rules. I can choose not to abide by them by not patronizing them.


393 posted on 08/21/2005 10:41:49 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: CholeraJoe
I think case law and the US Civil Rights code would state that any establishment open to the public is not private property.

You know enough to be dangerous here. Heart of Atlanta v. United States, 379 U.S. 241 (1964) and Katzenbach v. McClung, 379 U.S. 241 (1964) allowed the Federal Government to prohibit diner and hotel discrimination on the grounds of the Commerce Clause. This did not abolish the private nature of the property, just opened them up to regulation since they were open to the public.

400 posted on 08/21/2005 10:48:06 AM PDT by jude24 ("Stupid" isn't illegal - but it should be.)
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To: CholeraJoe
Er, um. I think case law and the US Civil Rights code would state that any establishment open to the public is not private property.

I think you would be quite wrong. Having a property open to the public for business does not remove your rights to set the terms for using that property.

574 posted on 08/22/2005 2:40:11 PM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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