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Katrina Live Thread XII
Various ^ | 31 August 2005 | Various

Posted on 08/31/2005 4:00:15 PM PDT by NautiNurse

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To: cgk
Office Depot: Contents of its five New Orleans stores, valued at $4 million.

Looting counts as a corporate donation now?

3,341 posted on 09/01/2005 8:00:00 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: ncpatriot
Wait till the raping starts.

Furthermore, what's the big shock, fellow Americans?

How many of you have seen "C.O.P.S" on TV for the last 10 years (I have wanted to ask them to change the program name from "C.O.P.S" to "Glorifying The Decay of America as Entertainment"). An unruly, huge segment of this in the society can and will revert to mob rule and anarchy when and if they get the chance, because by and large, those pockets were lower levels of de-facto anarchy to begin with, with a modicum of police control. This is what can and will happen in the event of a pandemic or suitcase nuke in one of our large cities with a similarly disposed citizenry of these types. I can think of LA, Detroit, Chicago, Houston, Baltimore, Miami, New York City and our own belove capital where this could also happen. The country needs to wake up to the enemy and enemies within.

3,342 posted on 09/01/2005 8:00:07 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
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To: NautiNurse

Yes, he did all that and more while the MSM continued to point out that he was on vacation - jeez


3,343 posted on 09/01/2005 8:00:52 AM PDT by LadyBuzz
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To: birddog
I stand corrected. Though if it is larger than Mobile, in terms of people, then it is by a hair.

I guess Mobile will just have to be happy being the oldest - yes, even older than New Orleans.

3,344 posted on 09/01/2005 8:00:55 AM PDT by lugsoul ("She talks and she laughs." - Tom DeLay)
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To: Tarheel

Zephyrs are a minor league baseball team.


3,345 posted on 09/01/2005 8:01:22 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Ellesu

Shots fired downtown.....
Per WAFB.


3,346 posted on 09/01/2005 8:01:39 AM PDT by LA Woman3 (On election day, they were driven to the polls...on evacuation day, they had to fend for themselves.)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
Might be meth instead of crack by now...but anyway, illegal substances of their choice...

And hence the public interest justification for a war on drugs (even if the current tactics are open to debate). The "legalize it now" crowd are naive when it comes to real-world consequences.

3,347 posted on 09/01/2005 8:01:42 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Wow, they're gonna hafta raze everything...


3,348 posted on 09/01/2005 8:01:55 AM PDT by WI Conservative 4 Bush (Three Cheers for Old Nassau!)
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To: maryz

It takes 72 hours before things begin to get organized enough improve.


3,349 posted on 09/01/2005 8:02:08 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Already has. The first rape was day before yesterday . . .


3,350 posted on 09/01/2005 8:02:20 AM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: Pyro7480

OOPS! MSNBC I think they said they would have the filmers on tonight..


3,351 posted on 09/01/2005 8:02:31 AM PDT by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: Ovation_girl
"for a long term situation there will not be enough restrooms, nor the staff to keep them in a sanitized condition."

They had the Houston mayor on TV the other day, and it seemed well-planned. The Dome is basically a holding tank, and they are going to gradually disperse the occupants as alternative housing becomes available. As for the toilets and showers, they can probably supplement them with honey buckets and portable showers. It won't be comfortable, but it won't be impossible, either.
3,352 posted on 09/01/2005 8:02:45 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: bwteim; All

Finally. I can get this in without having to "speculate".

Read this.

The read it again.

(Not you bwteim)


7:37 A.M. - (AP) The evacuation of the Superdome was suspended Thursday after shots were fired at a military helicopter, an ambulance official overseeing the operation said. No immediate injuries were
reported.

"We have suspended operations until they gain control of the Superdome," said Richard Zeuschlag, head of Acadian Ambulance, which was handling the evacuation of sick and injured people from the
Superdome.

He said that military would not fly out of the Superdome either because of the gunfire and that the National Guard told him that it was sending 100 military police officers to gain control.

"That's not enough," Zeuschlag. "We need a thousand."

If this isn't crunch time, the Battle for New Orleans, or the cassus belli for same, only two alternatives.

1. The political bosses play pattycake, hoping to keep the lid on, but the simmer turns to boil,

2. Those left in New Orleans are....left in New Orleans.


3,353 posted on 09/01/2005 8:03:12 AM PDT by jeffers
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To: Frank_Discussion; cajungirl
The Feds have mobilized with lightning speed, given the obstacles to progress that exist. I'm getting d@mn tired of the complaints, they aren't helping.

I couldn't agree with you more!

The more emotional, hand-wringing and angry the reaction to this crisis the more obstacles there are to dealing with it. There was a reason for calm (and seemingly slow at the time) response by the Bush administration to 911. A further panic would have created huge problems for all of us and handed a great victory to the enemy.

The local government in Louisiana has not responded as well as the mayor and governor in New York did in 9/11 – nor as well as they did in the various hurricanes in Florida last year, nor as well as they are now responding in Mississippi.

The Federal government cannot and should not overreach the local authorities. They have the first responsibility. It’s a jurisdictional thing that can (and in this case has) cost lives and property. But as soon as the locals threw up their hands and asked for help, it was on the way – both at the Federal level and by other, surrounding states (like Texas). In fact, the Federal help (FEMA) was pre-positioned ahead of the storm.

What would the reaction have been if all these – Federal and other States – had jumped the gun and forced themselves on Louisiana? IMHO, they would have cried out that they would have done a much better job if the feds and other governors had kept their mitts out of it.

I imagine the ACLU is already hard at work, planning to file lawsuits based on Posse Comitatus for the initiatives taken in the crisis. IMHO, it would be a good thing anyway and might encourage legislation to give a greater right to the federal government to take logistical control in natural disasters when the local authorities are not up to it – e.g. emotional, hand-wringing, angry, confused, etc.

3,354 posted on 09/01/2005 8:03:14 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: mwl1
Has Chertoff spoken yet? Is there any military presence taking shape in NO?

Just tuning in ... anyone?
3,355 posted on 09/01/2005 8:04:03 AM PDT by maggief (No 'luffs)
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To: oceanview
the media would then blame Bush for every thug that needs to be shot.

Precisely why the media should have been out of there two days ago.

3,356 posted on 09/01/2005 8:04:05 AM PDT by NautiNurse ("I'd rather see someone go to work for a Republican campaign than sit on their butt."--Howard Dean)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
That was actually a New York Post reporter who encountered the guy (or guys) with the Ryder Truck and the AK-47, not to mention an attitude, where a shot was heard shortly after the incident.

Two independent reporters had similar experiences. The NYP guy on the way in, and FoxNews on the way out.

3,357 posted on 09/01/2005 8:04:15 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

My question was not a loaded one - don't try to turn it into that, please (don't assume) - Simple question - Does anyone know what the muslin pop is of NO?


3,358 posted on 09/01/2005 8:04:16 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: Steve_Seattle

Updates as they come in on Katrina

10:01 AM CDT on Thursday, September 1, 2005

Tom Planchet

10:01 A.M. - (AP) -- The military plans to increase the number of National Guard troops on duty in Louisiana and Mississippi from a combined 7,400 to about 18,100, the senior commander in charge of military relief and rescue efforts said Thursday.

9:45 A.M. - Dave Matthews Band is expected to announce a concert today benefitting the hurricane victims.

9:36 A.M. - NEW YORK (AP): Harry Connick Jr., who grew up in New Orleans, says the city will rebuild and that its residents are "freakishly strong."

In an interview today on NBC's "Today" show, Connick compared the rejuvenating spirit of New Yorkers after the September 11 terror attacks to those in the hurricane-ravaged city.

Connick was born and raised in New Orleans, developing his music in jazz bands and at clubs in the French Quarter. His father, Harry Connick Senior, served as district attorney of Orleans Parish for 29 years before retiring in 2003.

He will join a televised fund-raiser, "A Concert for Hurricane Relief," tomorrow on NBC, MSNBC and CNBC at 7 p.m. that also will include performances by Wynton Marsalis and Tim McGraw.

In a posting on his Web site, Connick said he knew his immediate family was safe, but hadn't yet heard from other family and friends.

3,359 posted on 09/01/2005 8:04:16 AM PDT by cgk (We'll have to deal w/ the networks. One way to do that is to drain the swamp they live in - Rumsfeld)
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To: Steve_Seattle

Yes, they are setting up for showers I heard.


3,360 posted on 09/01/2005 8:04:20 AM PDT by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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