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Rapes in New Orleans Chaos Were Avoidable
women's enews ^ | 04 September 2005 | Nancy Cook Lauer

Posted on 09/05/2005 10:46:52 PM PDT by Lorianne

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (WOMENSENEWS)--Overwhelmed by the utter challenge of quickly moving tens of thousands of hurricane survivors to safe ground, Louisiana and federal officials had no time to ensure the security of New Orleans' most vulnerable: children, women and the elderly.

Following unconfirmed reports that girls as young as 10 were raped inside the Louisiana Superdome and convention center, relief workers now say they've taken steps to ensure that large shelters such as the Houston Astrodome will provide a safe haven for refugees.

"We have been hearing about episodes of violence, including rape," said Dr. Julie Gerberding, director of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Reuters reported Thursday.

That is unacceptable to organizations such as Amnesty International, which monitors governments, shelters, prisons and refugee camps around the world for human rights violations. Relief groups have an obligation to make vulnerable populations a top priority when planning and operating shelters, said Sheila Dauer, director of women's human rights for Amnesty International USA, in an interview Friday night with Women's eNews.

"The authorities are responsible for making sure these vulnerable populations are protected," Dauer said. "With thousands of people thrown in there together, there are people extremely vulnerable to violence and abuse, the very young, the very old, women, children, and they have a human right to be protected."

Law Enforcement Was Lacking A key ingredient of this new protection is a very visible presence of law enforcement officers in the Astrodome, something that was lacking in the Louisiana shelters during the early stages of the disaster, said Margaret Pepe, client services administrator for the American Red Cross.

"In the shelters that are being established for evacuees, we are very well aware of the vulnerability of this population," Pepe said. "By a very large visible presence of law enforcement keeping a much higher profile, we hope to avoid some of the problems these supershelters pose."

Until the end of the week, the few police monitoring the Superdome, for example, primarily guarded the perimeter and didn't mingle with the evacuees inside. Police at the Astrodome will be inside, talking with people and watching for telltale signs of abuse or potential abuse such as antisocial behavior and grownups who spend too much time following, hanging around or playing with children who are not their own.

Crisis counselors and psychologists will also be a big part of the mix in the new shelters being opened to take in evacuees, Pepe said.

"We are very vigilant," she said. "We are very protective of our shelterees."

The sheer size of the shelters and their many hiding places, coupled with a lack of lighting due to power outages, makes them less than ideal for emergency housing, said Pepe. She hopes the advance planning that went into making the Astrodome available will help alleviate some of those problems.

Establishing order and preventing crime should be the first priority of emergency management officials, and shelters should have stockpiles of food and medical supplies before they are brought into operation, say Florida emergency coordinators. Florida, which has had so many hurricanes in the past two years that coordinators perform their duties almost by rote, is lending its expertise, millions of dollars in aid and hundreds of personnel to its neighbors to the west.

Florida Prefers Small Shelter System In the fallout following five major hurricanes in the past 12 months, Florida has moved toward using smaller community shelters holding several hundred people mixed with law enforcement, counselors and aid workers when possible, said Luci Hadi, who is a key coordinator of emergency response for the Florida Department of Children and Families.

Advance preparation is crucial, Hadi said Friday.

"The difficulty that you have with these huge shelters is that they were never, never designed for this kind of work. There's no infrastructure provided, there's no stockpiling of food and water, there's no infrastructure of crisis counselors like we have here ready to go in," Hadi said. "They are essentially a big group of people unrelated to each other who have been crammed together now for days without adequate support and infrastructure. We unfortunately have enough experience in Florida that we plan far ahead."

The Red Cross is doing all it can, said Pepe. In addition to the licensed mental health professionals that are part of the Red Cross network, the aid organization is also recruiting counselors from airlines and other businesses who have large numbers of crisis counselors on staff or as consultants.

In the meantime, Red Cross staff and volunteers are trying to stress their safety rules to those seeking shelter. No firearms, alcohol or drugs are allowed in shelters, children must be with their parents at all times, cots should be arranged so that family units are as close together as possible, and women and children should always shower and use toilet facilities as family groups.


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To: Lorianne
there are people extremely vulnerable to violence and abuse, the very young, the very old, women, children, and they have a human right to be protected."

unless, of course, they are in Iraq.

21 posted on 09/05/2005 11:36:56 PM PDT by 1tin_soldier (We are each our own greatest oppressors!)
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To: Lorianne
"With thousands of people thrown in there together, there are people extremely vulnerable to violence and abuse,

Funny, but I've gone to many Stadiums in many different parts of the country and watched games at all hours of the day and never saw or heard of one rape.

What the hell is wrong with those people down there? Did NYC ganstas start rapeing when the planes hit the towers?

Why should size of the shelter induce the raping of 10 year old girls?

This is just making excuses for behaviour that is unspeakably inhuman.

22 posted on 09/05/2005 11:42:38 PM PDT by konaice
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To: DB

What the Feds did many years ago was to erect the housing
projects in New Orleans. This ensured that the city had a
huge population of those who were dependent on government for
their livlihood. These were the ones who furnished the most
victims foor the hurricane.


23 posted on 09/05/2005 11:42:42 PM PDT by RWCon
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To: Texasforever
Ahhh, yes...or cheering the rapists on!

It has NOW been widely reported that the jails in New Orleans were opened early on -- and the hoodlums were left to their own predictable devices.

And, yes...let me play the race card here, too:

Well over 97% of the released New Orleans inmates in the city lock-ups were young Blacks.

'Nuff said! Hello, Jesse!
24 posted on 09/05/2005 11:45:28 PM PDT by dk/coro
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To: SteveMcKing
As this was happening, FR moderators were pulling all threads that discussed the issue

And that has to be pointed out to Jim Robinson. Suppression of truth is NOT one of the things I expect to find on FR. There is plenty of that over on DU.

25 posted on 09/05/2005 11:45:44 PM PDT by konaice
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To: RWCon
What the Feds did many years ago was to erect the housing projects in New Orleans.

Scuze me? Feds did this? Yeah, right.

Louisiana did this to house the wellfare population of the state. The lobbied for federal HUD funds, and built a city of 36% unemployment. It kept the rif-raf out of Baton Rouge, and the upscale parts of the state.

26 posted on 09/05/2005 11:49:53 PM PDT by konaice
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To: sockmonkey

Riverwalk Mall...near the Convention Ctr....now next to three Navy vessels tied to the pier.


28 posted on 09/06/2005 12:07:14 AM PDT by BurbankKarl (u)
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To: BurbankKarl
First of all.....a disclosure. No. I'm not stalking you from thread to thread. :)

Riverwalk Mall...

So that's the one...we've been in there. Thanks for the info.

29 posted on 09/06/2005 12:09:08 AM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Lord, we need a Logan miracle for Simcha7 and Cowboy. Please.)
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To: Brad's Gramma

I have been there too....I only knew about it after that boat hit it a while ago....remembe that video?


30 posted on 09/06/2005 12:13:26 AM PDT by BurbankKarl (u)
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To: BurbankKarl

That boat hit less than a week after we got home. Yes indeedie, I remember that...


31 posted on 09/06/2005 12:14:26 AM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Lord, we need a Logan miracle for Simcha7 and Cowboy. Please.)
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To: hugoball
Imagine there were 20k Jewish settlers to New Orleans from all over the world, all poor, all aliens, all different parts of the world. Now imagine those people all had to go to the Superdome to find refuge from the hurricane. I will wager anyone on FR that none of what just happened with the most recent inhabitants would have happened, none of it. No rapes, robbery, whining, unpreparedness, bad behavior, complaining, helplessness, and all that we just witnessed. The remote incident might occur, but nothing systemic or widespread. Same goes for the Chinese or the Koreans or the Japanese or a host of other successful cultures.

Now imagine that those people were african americans that were college educated and made in excess of 50k per year. One ought not condemn or elevate an entire race for the actions, good or bad, of a portion of said race.

32 posted on 09/06/2005 12:32:24 AM PDT by 1tin_soldier (We are each our own greatest oppressors!)
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To: Brad's Gramma
Is this the "Bright Field" incident you are talking about?

Link to quick time video

http://virtualpet.com/bright/photos/freight.mov

Link to Bright Field Riverwalk incident

33 posted on 09/06/2005 1:19:29 AM PDT by konaice
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To: konaice
"And that has to be pointed out to Jim Robinson. Suppression of truth is NOT one of the things I expect to find on FR. There is plenty of that over on DU."

Posts of rape obsession myths from feminazi sites are more like what we'd expect from DU. Even foreign general socialist news sites are more credible. The moderators should continue to pull posts of hysterical rumors. The following is related and of interest.

New Orleans - Murder and rape - fact or fiction?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1478276/posts
34 posted on 09/06/2005 3:41:22 AM PDT by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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To: konaice
Rumor and truth needs to be sorted out of course. But just posting rumor doesn't unsure finding the later.

I was reading some of the Dummies the other day and they had this great circle-logic proof going on. One person posted that Bush knew the victims in MS, she had proof of it, which of course she couldn't share just now.

Later topics referred to this accusation thread, some in posts by the original poster and sent the reader back to that first accusation thread as proof of the truth of it all. Then the first thread used the later threads as proof.

In thoughtful time it can be sorted out, debated, and dissected. Just posting accusations and rumor without source material for debate doesn't add much to that process.
35 posted on 09/06/2005 3:48:49 AM PDT by FarmerW
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To: FarmerW

Rapes in New Orleans Chaos Were Avoidable -- With a Gun.


36 posted on 09/06/2005 4:47:34 AM PDT by BlackRain
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To: SteveMcKing

As this was happening, FR moderators were pulling all threads that discussed the issue.

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There are certain truths you may not discuss. Just like now there is a hard press on in the media to do a revision of the rapes and murders in New Orleans. Now, they didn't happen.


37 posted on 09/06/2005 4:49:21 AM PDT by BlackRain
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To: familyop
Following unconfirmed reports ...

We have been hearing about episodes of violence, including rape...

Let's wait to see if there's any actual, real evidence with actual, real victims making actual, real charges. Fulminating feminazis making their usual broadbrush charges should be ignored.

38 posted on 09/06/2005 5:47:18 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck
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To: TheOtherOne
"Common decency and civility is an obligation. And it includes to make sure women are not raped. Sorry you think that is communism."

You, and people like you are one of the reasons the Red Cross and Salvation Army couldn't go into New Orleans to help refugees. They did not have the law enforcement resources to maintain law and order in those shelters so rather than be blamed for the rapes and murders that occurred, they stayed away, and so many people that they could have helped died as a result. Communism kills again. Your self righteous indignation is not helpful.
39 posted on 09/06/2005 7:34:22 AM PDT by monday
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To: hugoball
" No rapes, robbery, whining, unpreparedness, bad behavior, complaining, helplessness, and all that we just witnessed."

lol... I would agree with everything except the whining and complaining. There would have been plenty of that.
40 posted on 09/06/2005 7:42:50 AM PDT by monday
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