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To: BykrBayb; sheltonmac
It is not stupid to support our troops.

No indeed it is not. However one can support our troops without agreeing with the mission. Or are you going to tell me that every 'conservative' (i.e. Republicans) fully supported Clinton's interventionism? Didn't think so. Were they unpatriotic for not supporting Clinton's nonsense? Why not? Because the wrong party started that police action?

It is not stupid to see the progress that's been made

Oh yes, democracy breaking out everywhere is it? How about that rigged democratic 'election' in Egypt just the other day? That's democracy just pouring from the borders of Iraq into the Middle East...And let's talk about progress. One of the few secular nations in the Middle East is on its way to be an Islamic Republic. All thanks to US intervention and getting rid of the 'evil' leaders. I can't tell you how much that warms my heart..

It is not stupid to recognize the fact that Afghanistan and Iraq were both a threat to us

And as yet, there hasn't been a valid argument that Iraq posed any sort of threat to our borders. What sort of threat Iraq posed to the borders of other nations (of which it really didn't) would be the business of those nations, not us.

It is not stupid to know the truth.

No, but it is to be so blindly loyal to a party even when nothing that's been said over the past three years has come to fruition and yet you still rally for them.

But I can't complain. The one thing I hope comes out of this more than anything else is a split. Either the interventionists who believe in American world leadership nonsense are ran out of the Republican party once and for all or conservatives get up and just leave the party and let it come to its own ruin instead of trying to save it.

101 posted on 09/09/2005 11:30:04 AM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: billbears
Or are you going to tell me that every 'conservative' (i.e. Republicans) fully supported Clinton's interventionism? Didn't think so. Were they unpatriotic for not supporting Clinton's nonsense?

Find one example of conservatives pounding drums outside of the Impeached Rapist's White House over his Kosovo wag of the dog. Find one example of conservatives picketing wounded soldiers from Kosovo.

107 posted on 09/09/2005 11:38:20 AM PDT by Coop (www.heroesandtraitors.org)
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To: billbears
Oh yes, democracy breaking out everywhere is it?

Why don't you ask Afghan or Iraqi women, you anti-military blowhard?

108 posted on 09/09/2005 11:39:20 AM PDT by Coop (www.heroesandtraitors.org)
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To: billbears; Coop; Allegra; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
You know, if you are only concerned about the borders, then you are SERIOUSLY underestimating our enemies.

Secondly, in terms of your quote: "Oh yes, democracy breaking out everywhere is it?, I SUGGEST you take a good look at this picture.




Suck on that.
168 posted on 09/09/2005 1:54:29 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (Ohio State (-1) vs. Texarse, Sept 10th)
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To: billbears
Oh yes, democracy breaking out everywhere is it? How about that rigged democratic 'election' in Egypt just the other day?

How about those elections in Iraq? How about Iraq having a Constitution? How about Afghani elections? How About Lebanon kicking Syria out? How about Libya giving up their nuke program?

One of the few secular nations in the Middle East is on its way to be an Islamic Republic.

That's crap. Dennis Ross says he's floored by the ignorance of people who spout this line, because the proposed Iraqi constitution will be "the most secular government document in the Middle East." The people who are predicting Sharia law in Iraq are not more insightful than the people who take "well-regulated militia" ans say that the 2nd Amendment authorizes the National Guard.

And as yet, there hasn't been a valid argument that Iraq posed any sort of threat to our borders.

Your argument could have been held up quite well about Afghanistan on May 10, 2001.

What were the Iraqis doing at Salman Pak?

What was Al-Zarqawi doing in an Iraqi hospital?

Can a country try to kill American pilots and an American President and yet not be an enemy of the United States?

Since when is it "interventionist" to enforce a surrender agreement which an enemy of the United States has broken?

262 posted on 09/09/2005 5:25:31 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback ("It's diabolical...It's lemon scented...this plan can't POSSIBLY fail!")
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