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To: Non-Sequitur
My responses are in keeping with the quality of your posts.

that, and oh - there's no way to really keep on with the assertion that Virginia did not have the right to leave the Union.

WE the delegates of the people of Virginia, duly elected, in pursuance of a recommendation of the General Assembly, and now met in Convention, having fully and fairly investigated and discussed the proceedings of the Federal Convention, and being prepared as well as the most mature deliberation will enable us to decide thereon,DO, in the name and on behalf of the people of Virginia, declare and make known, that the powers granted under the Constitution being derived from the people of the United States, may be resumed by them whensoever the same shall be perverted to their injury or oppression, and that every power not granted thereby, remains with them, and at their will: That therefore no right, of any denomination, can be cancelled, abridged, restrained or modified by the Congress, by the Senate, or House of Representatives, acting in any capacity, by the President, or any department or officer of the United States, except in those instances where power is given by the Constitution for those purposes:

Accepted by Hamilton, Madison, the Conteninental Congress, et al as "unconditional," meaning, "Yeah, that's what the Constitution says."

Always a party with you and little_mac. What are you two gonna call me next?

517 posted on 09/26/2005 3:32:13 AM PDT by Gianni
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To: Gianni
Why not continue? The ratification document went on to say:

"With these impressions with a solemn appeal to the Searcher of hearts for the purity of our intentions and under the conviction that whatsoever imperfections may exist in the Constitution ought rather to be examined in the mode prescribed therein than to bring the Union into danger by a delay with a hope of obtaining Amendments previous to the Ratification, We the said Delegates in the name and in behalf of the People of Virginia do by these presents assent to and ratify the Constitution recommended on the seventeenth day of September one thousand seven hundred and eighty seven by the Federal Convention for the Government of the United States hereby announcing to all those whom it may concern that the said Constitution is binding upon the said People according to an authentic Copy hereto annexed in the Words following..."

Nowhere in the Constitution does it allow a state to resume powers granted to the federal government. The people who wrote the ratification document may have thought so, but they were mistaken in their belief. Unless, of course, you're maintaining that the ratification document trumps the Constitution?

What are you two gonna call me next?

Oh the possibilities are endless, and will depend on what you post next.

518 posted on 09/26/2005 4:21:02 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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