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Gulf Coast Isn't the Only Thing Left in Tatters; Bush's Status With Blacks Takes Hit
NY Times ^ | 9/12/05 | Elisabeth Bumiller

Posted on 09/12/2005 2:52:23 AM PDT by Crackingham

From the political perspective of the White House, Hurricane Katrina destroyed more than an enormous swath of the Gulf Coast. The storm also appears to have damaged the carefully laid plans of Karl Rove, President Bush's political adviser, to make inroads among black voters and expand the reach of the Republican Party for decades to come.

Many African-Americans across the country said they seethed as they watched the television pictures of the largely poor and black victims of Hurricane Katrina dying for food and water in the New Orleans Superdome and the convention center. A poll released last week by the nonpartisan Pew Research Center bore out that reaction as well as a deep racial divide: Two-thirds of African-Americans said the government's response to the crisis would have been faster if most of the victims had been white, while 77 percent of whites disagreed.

The anger has invigorated the president's critics. Kanye West, the rap star, raged off-script at a televised benefit for storm victims that "George Bush doesn't care about black people." Howard Dean, the chairman of the Democratic National Committee, said in Miami last week that Americans "have to come to terms with the ugly truth that skin color, age and economics played a significant role in who survived and who did not."

At the White House, the public response has been to denounce the critics as unseemly and unfair. "I think all of those remarks were disgusting, to be perfectly frank," Laura Bush said in an interview with the American Urban Radio Network, when asked about the comments of Mr. West and Mr. Dean. "Of course President Bush cares about everyone in our country."

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KEYWORDS: africanamericans; blacks; blamegame; bushsfault; demsplantation; nyslimes; racecard; racehustlers; racehustling; racialpolitics
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To: Crackingham

The drum beat continues. No one is listening.


51 posted on 09/12/2005 5:12:47 AM PDT by bert (K.E. ; N.P . I smell a dead rat in Baton Rouge!)
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To: Crackingham

Who takes the NYT bathhouse boys seriously?


52 posted on 09/12/2005 5:15:20 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: Crackingham
Written by a typical wacko hate monger.. check this out , she was tapped earlier.. http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:QCJxfCQ4GCQJ:www.timeswatch.org/articles/2004/1018.asp+Elisabeth+Bumiller&hl=en&client=firefox-a
53 posted on 09/12/2005 5:21:38 AM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: sam_paine
"I thought that was ironic, and it still makes me think "the black community" is a ridiculous (if not belittling) concept."

I hate when people use that term also. Sadly I've often seen it used here. Comments like, "if they keep choosing leaders like Jesse and Al...", make me cringe every time I hear it. There are many Black conservatives in this country and fortunately we'll soon be seeing more run for state and national office.

54 posted on 09/12/2005 5:36:39 AM PDT by blaquebyrd
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To: Congressman Billybob

Morning CBB,
President Bush lost nothing from the educated blacks who woke up and left the DNC plantation.

The hoodwinked will continue to support the liberal's lefts' communist agenda.

The reality is, I am tired of the NOLA getting their butts kissed for lawless conduct and a crybaby attitude.

MS was hit far worse than the NOLA crowd and everyone in my area will not contribute to unappreciative government sugar tit recipients.

Those idiots in NOLA best realize anarchists regardless of race or creed are not welcome in the real America.

The NOLA Klowns have only Nagin, Blanco, Landrieu and themselves to blame for not evacuating. The buses were there and Nagin failed to utilize them to look after his constituents.

President Bush is being too gracious with those pomopous idiots who will spit in his face, if given the chance. They(to whom it fits) feel someone owes them everything in life and blames others for their misfortunes in upward social mobility.

I do not know of any one much poorer than I when growing up. Despite obstacles in my path I obtained the American Dream.

I ask why others' never try to better themselves and seek to bite the hand that feeds them?

Maybe one day they will stop licking the shoes and butts of the poverty pimps(jesse&al&calypso louie).

The opportunity to succeed in life is there for the taking. However one cannot sit on their ass, put on their shades, light up a Kool and proclaim this is the Promise Land.

Maybe Janet Jackson should have changed the title of her old song "What Have You Done For Yourself Lately!!! Instead of, "What Have You Done For Me Lately."

In closing President lost nothing and gained in unifying intelligent voters, who will not tolerate anarchy and reverse race hatred.

Words from the street,
NSNR-CSAOTL










55 posted on 09/12/2005 5:46:05 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: tet68
The NYT is a self fulfilling prophesy.

The New York Times is a self fulfilling fallacy....

56 posted on 09/12/2005 5:47:35 AM PDT by Thermalseeker
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To: Thermalseeker
"The NYT is a self fulfilling prophesy."

"The New York Times is a self fulfilling fallacy...."

The New York Times is a self fulfilling Phallicy........

57 posted on 09/12/2005 5:50:50 AM PDT by Inge_CAV
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To: Crackingham
"seethed as they watched the television pictures of the largely poor and black victims of Hurricane Katrina dying for food and water in the New Orleans Superdome and the convention center."

There were pictures of black people dying in the superdome? Is that correct? I know there were some deaths... at least one man committed suicide and a child was murdered either in the Superdome or at the convention center. Not sure what the other deaths were. But, I didn't see anyone dying and I don't think any blacks did either.

I know there were a lot of very uncomfortable people in the Superdome due to conditions there. We learn now, well after the fact, and after Bush and FEMA have been blamed for their condition, that the real first responsers, Red Cross and Salvation Army relief workers were prevented from alleviating the conditions in the superdome in order to MAKE the people housed there uncomfortable in an effort to make them evacuate.

We heard the ultimate in this media hyperbole when the MSM reported Randal Robinson statements that conditions were so bad in New Orleans that blacks were resorting to cannibalism after three days...

This has been a media circus from the start... great entertainment... When the final chapter is written we will find that given the magnitude of the storm and the damage done that the overall effort was pretty successful despite the ineptitude of the local and state authorities...
58 posted on 09/12/2005 6:09:04 AM PDT by RedEyeJack
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To: Rebelbase
Midgets are affected too.


GEORGE BUSH HATES SHORT PEOPLE!

Another vital voting block lost.

59 posted on 09/12/2005 6:15:19 AM PDT by SquirrelKing
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To: Crackingham

Is Elizabeth Bumiller the same person who said she would get on her knees and service Bill Clinton just for keeping abortion legal?


60 posted on 09/12/2005 6:25:17 AM PDT by Inwoodian
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To: Fenris6

The 2/3 that didn't aren't exactly GOP voters, anyway...


61 posted on 09/12/2005 6:33:01 AM PDT by RockinRight (What part of ILLEGAL immigration do they not understand?)
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To: Inwoodian
***Is Elizabeth Bumiller the same person who said she would get on her knees and service Bill Clinton just for keeping abortion legal?***

I don't believe so.

When I saw your post and one like it further down positing the same question I Googled her (it's okay I wore protection). In any case, she's detested by the moonbat left and the MSM, oops that's the same thing, my bad. But get this, she is seen as a Bush Lapdog!

In one item that popped up she gets ripped for asking sKerry tough questions. One being "are you a Liberal?". He dodged the question, naturally, so she kept asking it.

Ergo, me thinks it must be another NY Slimes reporterette who said the "Lewinsky" thing.

62 posted on 09/12/2005 7:00:01 AM PDT by Condor51 (Leftists are moral and intellectual parasites - Standing Wolf)
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To: ncountylee
"Many African-Americans across the country said they seethed as they watched the television pictures of the largely poor and black victims of Hurricane Katrina dying for food and water in the New Orleans Superdome.."

Yet many of those shown begging for food and water had cigarettes....
63 posted on 09/12/2005 7:26:21 AM PDT by D1X1E (They should have stopped with "Congress shall make no law.....)
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To: mhking; rbd3; Trueblackman
I trust you're all registering as 'rats now. ;^)

IMHO, the NYT is engaged in wishful thinking. Ken Melman is operating under the radar and will continue to do so. Je$$e Jack$on et al sound off, doing nothing. And the people know it...

64 posted on 09/12/2005 7:41:03 AM PDT by eureka! (Hey Lefties: Only 3 and 1/4 more years of W. Hehehehe....)
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To: Congressman Billybob

*** the Administration may have solidified its support among whites, as a reaction to the criminal conduct of blacks in New Orleans,***

Went to a mixed-race wedding this weekend, and the subject of the Hurricane WASN'T MENTIONED AT ALL, which really got to me...

Talking with my best friend, the Black Groom, he stated that even the Black Ministers are embarrassed by it....


65 posted on 09/12/2005 8:16:20 AM PDT by tcrlaf
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To: Republican Wildcat

What should make blacks 'seethe' is that the 'Rats have fostered such complete mindless dependency for 40+ years that there could be 100,000+ blacks living in the most vulnerable spot in the Americas with no means of evacuation and a city led by a BLACK mayor and city council members who ignored their own emergency plan. What should make blacks seethe is that a 'RAT governor had no plan to save the 100,000 most vulnerable of her constituents, even though she had the legal power to commandeer buses from all over the city and state to save them.


66 posted on 09/12/2005 8:17:09 AM PDT by Enchante (Don't put up with Michael Moore-on's slanders anymore!)
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To: Enchante
Someone on another thread pointed out what Bush is doing that is very smart. What is happening is that Reconstruction (ahem...) will be conducted by the National Government, headed as it is by Republicans. Don't be terribly angry with what Bumiller is writing today. She's describing the state of play today. Bush is interested in the state of play for 2006 and 2008. As such he's done a curious thing.

He knows that the Donks can't help but cast Mayor Nagin into the wilderness because of his previous support of Bobby Jindal. He is quite craftily making an ally of the Mayor, and an enemy of Governor Deer In Headlights. As the facts begin to come to light about what really happened, Governor Deer In Headlights will look less attractive as time goes by, as will her ally, Senator Landrieu. Nagin, on the other hand, is black and fiery, and will naturally encourage a "rallying around the beleagured black politician" effect that has historically occurred among black voters (to wit: Adam Clayton Powell in the '60's and Alcee Hastings in the '80's).

Bush picks his allies and enemies well. He will come out on top and the media will not understand why. Strangely enough, Black America will notice that Republicans are directing their anger less at Mayor Nagin and more at Governor Deer In Headlights (that's her Tribal Name, by the way...).

I know that Nagin is a loudmouth with competency questions, but Bush has figured out that he has his uses.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

67 posted on 09/12/2005 8:31:31 AM PDT by section9 (Major Motoko Kusanagi says, "Jesus is Coming. Everybody look busy...")
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To: winston2
Been here for hundreds of years - born, fed, and housed for free in many cases yet unwilling to get out of the way of the biggest storm in memory. Yet it's someone else's fault?

Whoa there! They were 'fed and housed for free' as slaves for hundreds of those years. Are you accusing blacks of freeloading during those years?

And there was no effort to evacuate these people (black or white) prior to the storm. There were thousands who wanted to evacuate and had no means because of their poverty, and not their color.

And you're also talking about a small minority who refused to leave (black and white)............I agree with you that their dire situation is all their fault.

But your sweeping comments are highly inaccurate, and even more highly offensive.

There's enough racism on the left. We don't need it coming from conservatives.....

68 posted on 09/12/2005 8:33:39 AM PDT by ohioWfan (If my people which are called by my name will humble themselves and pray......)
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To: Crackingham

If the Democrats WANT to make the country's political partys racially divided, they do so at their own peril. You don't win the nation with a monolithic voting bloc of 12%, many of whom don't vote anyway.

Especially if you work for policies that doom that voting bloc to eternal victimhood and poverty, supervised by their elite white masters and a few demagogues who serve as overseers.


69 posted on 09/12/2005 8:59:25 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: Crackingham

"Bush' status with blacks takes a hit"


Gee, he better be careful, they might not vote for him next time!

ROFLMAO!!!!!


70 posted on 09/12/2005 9:01:02 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (Women are like the forest, dark, mysterious and full of squirrels.)
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To: Crackingham

Are there any confirmed cases of anybody dying after the Hurricane because of a "lack of food and water"? I'm sure a few people died because of a lack of medical supplies, or because they were sick and didn't get treatment.

But did anybody really starve in a mere 3 days, when in fact there was food and water available? Did anybody dehydrate to death in 3 days.

This spring the nation watched a person die of lack of food and water. Most of the people complaining now were all for THAT travesty. But more importantly, it took almost TWO WEEKS for her to die.

So, does anybody believe that anybody died because of a lack of food and water in New Orleans?


71 posted on 09/12/2005 9:02:29 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: No Surrender No Retreat
Thank you for your heartfelt and thoughtful comments.

John / Billybob
72 posted on 09/12/2005 10:49:06 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (The difference between a Louisiana Democrat and a crawfish is the crawfish tastes good.)
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To: Crackingham

Many African-Americans across the country said they seethed as they watched the television pictures of the largely poor and black victims of Hurricane Katrina dying for food and water in the New Orleans Superdome and the convention center


**Seething with rage at that or because they couldn't believe so many of thier peeps were to friggin ignorant to get out of town SOMEWAY, knowing there was a BIG HURRICANE coming?

**Seething with rage over the fact thier peeps were looting and raping and killing and embarassing thier race on National TV?


73 posted on 09/12/2005 12:42:50 PM PDT by WasDougsLamb (just my opinion. Go easy on me.)
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To: Fenris6
"LOL. The fact that 1/3 of Blacks see through the MSM's attempt to make this racial is hopeful. "

You're right...it looks like Bush is actually making inroads.

74 posted on 09/12/2005 12:44:13 PM PDT by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: ohioWfan
Whoa there! They were 'fed and housed for free' as slaves for hundreds of those years. Are you accusing blacks of freeloading during those years?

No

And there was no effort to evacuate these people (black or white) prior to the storm. There were thousands who wanted to evacuate and had no means because of their poverty, and not their color.

I have my doubts about the accuracy of your opinion on this- and - even if you are right - where is it written that the government is responsible for ferrying every indigent from harms way? I have read that the constitution guarantees the right of liberty - not protection from every danger nature throws at us.

And you're also talking about a small minority who refused to leave (black and white)............I agree with you that their dire situation is all their fault.

Nice that we agree about something.

75 posted on 09/12/2005 3:05:36 PM PDT by winston2 (Life, Liberty, and Pursuit of Happiness! :-)
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To: Crackingham

The NYT is voicing, in the lying sort of way that is its only means of expression, deep fear that significant numbers of black Americans will suddenly see through their anti-white fear-mongering and tell the Democratic Party to pound sand.


76 posted on 09/12/2005 3:11:57 PM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: winston2
where is it written that the government is responsible for ferrying every indigent from harms way?

And where are you getting your information that all of the people there were 'indigent?' (Be careful to not let any more of your thinly veiled prejudice seep out accidentally again).

The mayor has just said that the method chosen to 'evacuate' them was to get them to the SuperBowl, not to get them out of the city. But the city's evacuation plan said no such thing.

Are people who are physically or mentally disabled 'indigent' in your view, and should be left to fend for themselves? Are people in nursing homes 'indigent?'

At what point does your desire to keep power out of the hands of the government (even the city) negate your ability to see things as they really are, and help those in legitimate need?

And why did you make that absolutely stupid statement about blacks' being 'fed and housed for free for hundreds of years.' if you are now denying that those 'hundreds of years' included slavery? (Can't wait to see how you try to wiggle out of that disgusting comment.....)

77 posted on 09/12/2005 3:42:27 PM PDT by ohioWfan (If my people which are called by my name will humble themselves and pray......)
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To: Khankrumthebulgar

O'Reilly has professional finger-pointer and excuse-maker Michael Eric Dyson on right now. Dyson is abhorrent. He has been on radio shows previously and tries to shout down any opposition - a very intellectual tactic. When one host asked him - "Do you live with your kids in these low-income, high-crime areas you claim to support?" Dyson refused to answer.

I have some stronger names for him but decorum prevents.


78 posted on 09/12/2005 5:45:09 PM PDT by relictele (How can Hillary run the country when she couldn't manage a household of 3?)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Hye CBB,
You are welcome.
Democrats are not patriots,
NSNR-CSAOTL


79 posted on 09/13/2005 1:07:16 PM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: the_Watchman

Of course, one looks to the world class expert on race relations, Elizabeth Bumiller, for insight. What a crock!


80 posted on 09/13/2005 1:19:30 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: ClaireSolt
Here's something I found when I consulted my local paper to see what is going on here. It indicates that something completely unreported is going on. That is the Rev Masters cited here is one of the leaders in President Bush's faith-based initiative. Seems it has ben mobilized.

Restaurant owner follows heart, takes in evacuees By Scott McCabe Palm Beach Post Staff Writer

Saturday, September 10, 2005

WEST PALM BEACH — Jenetha Smith felt helpless watching the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina with so many people stranded with no place to go and seemingly no help on the way.

"I wanted to just reach through the TV screen and pull everybody out to help them," said Smith, who runs the World Famous Restaurant, with her mother Yvonne Peterman. "We cried for days. It was so overwhelming."

The only way to stop crying, she decided, was to help at least two families, get them out of the dreary shelters and find them a permanent place to stay.

So she made a phone call to County Commissioner Addie Greene. That led to more phone calls and eventually to Bishop Thomas Masters, who was in Houston volunteering at the Astrodome.

Several evacuees were willing to move to Palm Beach County, Masters told her, including one young mother from New Orleans who saved her two toddlers by putting them on an inflated inner tube and pushing them through chest-deep water to the Superdome.

Now, the young mother had nowhere to go.

Meanwhile, phone calls started to pour back Smith's way, from churches, businesses, apartments and other people who wanted to help. Smith had to learn how to set up a non-profit.

Late Thursday night, 12 evacuees arrived with Masters at the restaurant where shortly after midnight they got their first hot meal in nearly two weeks. They were black and white and young and ready to start a new life.

The survivors began talking about what they came through — including one story of a man in New Orleans who shot his wife and daughter before taking his own life.

On Friday, the 12 rested, too tired to attend the afternoon press conference at the restaurant.

But they have a new family waiting for them. Smith and her helpers plan to provide housing and health care for one year.

"We're going to keep them," said her mother, Peterman. "They're babies."

An account has been set up at Washington Mutual for the African-American Hurricane Relief Fund, and contributions can be deposited during normal business hours. Smith is also accepting food, water, baby care, first aid, and personal hygiene items at the restaurant, 417 Northwood Road. For more information, contact Smith at (561) 833-3377.

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81 posted on 09/13/2005 1:31:08 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: ohioWfan
And why did you make that absolutely stupid statement about blacks' being 'fed and housed for free for hundreds of years.' if you are now denying that those 'hundreds of years' included slavery? (Can't wait to see how you try to wiggle out of that disgusting comment.....)

Quote my remark accurately and I will reply. Quote it incorrectly and I'll ignore you.

BTW - I do hope your community inherits some of the fine upstanding persons I am talking about. You seem to need a taste of the persons that make New Orleans the murder capital of the U.S.

On a purely Christian chord - Do you think the U.S. federal government or any other will be able to rescue humanity from the plagues and pestilences God has in store for us?

82 posted on 09/13/2005 2:34:17 PM PDT by winston2 (Life, Liberty, and Pursuit of Happiness! :-)
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To: winston2
How interesting and revealing that you accuse the entire large group of innocent human beings of sharing the faults of the tiny minority.

Actually, we would gladly offer our home to these evacuees (most of them don't want to come this far north, though a small group have come to Ohio).

As for your (bizarre?) last question, you have proven that you can't be taken seriously, so I shall presume that your question.......whatever you mean by it.....is completely disingenuous, and any further discourse with you would be a total waste of my time.

Racism is an ugly thing and hurts you as much as it hurts those you look down on. Maybe you should try to get rid of it before you sink any further into its grasp. You're looking pretty ugly already.

83 posted on 09/13/2005 3:36:19 PM PDT by ohioWfan (If my people which are called by my name will humble themselves and pray......)
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To: Crackingham

This article is a crock. Bush's status couldn't take a hit becuase he never had any in the black community. 95% of us are taught from birth to hate republicans and most of us are still being taught to dislike white people. Very, very few of us rise above this.


84 posted on 09/13/2005 4:03:12 PM PDT by thathamiltonwoman
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