[RFEngineer]

"But, I bet that all of that will change if one or many of our cities are nuked."

Well, then the policy would have failed.....that's the point. It's going to take a nuke strike to elicit a nuke strike.

We need other military and covert options. disrupt countries that threaten us utterly.......cause civil unrest, even civil war....assassinate their leaders. THAT's how you do it, not by saying we'll nuke you if you don't do what we say.

[dhs12345]

I like your ideas about undermining those governments covertly.

Have a theory about why we haven't been attacked since 9/11 and that our cities may never be nuked -- because they are afraid that we will respond in kind and again. Attacks may remain small scale, i.e., like the twin towers. Of course, I could be wrong.