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Give Illegal Aliens' Jobs to Unemployed Katrina Victims
Human Events Online ^ | September 13, 2005 | Phyllis Schlafly

Posted on 09/13/2005 8:03:16 AM PDT by hinterlander

Katrina has displaced hundreds of thousands of Americans who now need food, housing, and cash. Relief for those necessities will have to be temporary and it will be many months before they can return to New Orleans, if ever, so what they need most of all is jobs.

Our government should act immediately to put these displaced Americans in the jobs now held by illegal aliens. Some 10 million illegal aliens are now working in our country, so there is no excuse for not replacing a million of them with unemployed American citizens.

President Bush should announce an immediate crackdown on employers of illegals and set up a hiring database to match up the unemployed with jobs.

Remember how Bush was talking glibly about inviting "willing workers" to come here from other countries? We should give affirmative-action preference to willing workers from Louisiana and Mississippi.

Meanwhile, the Senate voted $10 billion and then another $50 billion for hurricane relief, and that's all deficit spending. Why not take that money out of . . .

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico
KEYWORDS: alien; aliens; amnesty; bordersecurity; bushamnesty; employment; grandstanding; hurricane; illegal; illegalaliens; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; invasionusa; jobs; katrina; mexico; openborders; stupididea

1 posted on 09/13/2005 8:03:17 AM PDT by hinterlander
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To: hinterlander

With the agencies giving out 4 figure debit cards to whoever stands in a refugee line, the incentive to actually work is a non starter.


2 posted on 09/13/2005 8:07:35 AM PDT by aspiring.hillbilly (!...The Confederate States of America rises again...!)
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To: hinterlander

That is a great idea. I thought of that one, last week, but cannot bring myself to believe that any significant percentage of those evacuees actually WANT to seek gainful employment. For many of them, it would be alien to their nature and their past count-on-Sugar-Daddy experience.


3 posted on 09/13/2005 8:09:39 AM PDT by thelastvirgil (More convinced than ever that the United States Congress is a bigger threat than radical Islamists.)
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To: hinterlander

OK...lets think this through in the mind of an evacuee..

a) I sit in a hotel room, paid for by the government, watch TV, drink beer, and wait for my next check.

b) I get off my a55, go out and sweat for $7.50/hr, and start a life that involves hard work, saving, building, and growing out of my poverty.

What was the question?


4 posted on 09/13/2005 8:11:56 AM PDT by Paloma_55
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To: hinterlander
Bush has shown his true colors he cares less about American citizens... as long as his elite friends in business are taken care of then we can go to hell. The drugs, violence, rape and murders continue unabated and Bush,Rove and the rest of the RINOs continue to dance happily.

Note to Bush 80% of all violent crime in Arizona involves illegal aliens.
5 posted on 09/13/2005 8:13:43 AM PDT by sasafras (Want to get rid of illegals then take away all the benefits and penalize employers who hire illegals)
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To: hinterlander

You gotta be kidding. Illegal aliens do the work that our citizens are not willing to do. Which of them would take the outdoor, hard labor jobs that most of the illegals do? Now...I am against illegal aliens coming to this country and working....but they certainly fill a niche that our 'worthy' citizens will not fill. If there were no illegal aliens to take the low pay...employers might have to raise what they pay.

Kennedy is on the TV harumphing about 'unequal opportunity' for the poor. What a bloviating blob of blathering blubber!


6 posted on 09/13/2005 8:13:56 AM PDT by Dudoight
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To: Paloma_55

option A will run out eventually. While I agree that it's an easy choice now. Just give it another month or two


7 posted on 09/13/2005 8:14:34 AM PDT by SengirV
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To: hinterlander
These people are not going to work those jobs. They would not work them before the storm. They certainly are not going to work them now. Not with all those free federal $$$ coming their way, free handouts, free housing, free food, free clothes. Why work? The socialist government will give it to you free. That is the way it was in NO. That is the way it will remain.

The dems have been in control of NO for 100 years. That city is in ruins before the storm, economically and else-wise. The people were poor, broke, drugs, alcohol abuse, multipule children by multiple fathers. The dems had 100 years to FIX IT. But, did not. Bush is blamed for NO's poverty. Klinton was in charge for 8 years. Did he FIX NO's poverty? Atlanta's? Chicago's? NY City's? LA's? NO! A freaking government school educated person can see that, if he could get a view over the stack of free stuff, mostly given to him by big bad Wal Mart. Or looted.

8 posted on 09/13/2005 8:14:50 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (All democrats are ENEMIES of the Republic!)
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To: hinterlander

Unfortunately Americans have to make enough to live on after taxes medical and other expenses. An illegal making $10 per hour under the table is in better shape than a citizen earning a taxable $12 per hour.

There also needs to be a BIG incentive for companies hiring American workers at a decent wage?


9 posted on 09/13/2005 8:17:02 AM PDT by cripplecreek (If you must obey your party, may your chains rest lightly upon your shoulders.)
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To: HiJinx

Good article. I love this lady.


10 posted on 09/13/2005 8:17:51 AM PDT by planekT (What a mess.)
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To: hinterlander

I agree jobs for those who want them. That is the US. However, most in NO seemed to rely on the mailman for a paycheck not an employeer.


11 posted on 09/13/2005 8:18:58 AM PDT by truemiester (If the U.S. should fail, a veil of darkness will come over the Earth for a thousand years)
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To: Paloma_55

EXACTLY!

ABout 30 years ago my Mother stated, "Let me control the welfare receipients. They'll be out finding a job in a SECOND!"

It involves making them WORK or starve. Period.


12 posted on 09/13/2005 8:22:45 AM PDT by highlymotivated (If American ever falls, a STINKING LIBERAL will be behind it.)
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To: hinterlander
The illegal aliens should not be here anyhow. They are breaking the law, and the government could not be bothered to ENFORCE the law.
13 posted on 09/13/2005 8:22:48 AM PDT by Cobra64
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To: hinterlander
" give affirmative action to willing workers from Louisiana and Missisippi"

what a crackpot idea, with a liberal like Bush in the Whitehouse, it'll never work.

14 posted on 09/13/2005 8:24:31 AM PDT by gitmogrunt (God bless our troops and their families)
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To: planekT; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...
Click to see other threads related to illegal aliens in America
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It's an idea...

15 posted on 09/13/2005 8:25:03 AM PDT by HiJinx (~ Serving Those Who Serve Us ~ www.proudpatriots.org ~ Operation Semper Fi)
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To: hinterlander
Work??? Work???
16 posted on 09/13/2005 8:27:52 AM PDT by meowmeow (Meow! Meow!)
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To: hinterlander
Unfortunately the problem with many of them is NOT availability of jobs, but the incentive to actually work. The LEFT has created a subculture in this nation of people who believe someone else will always take care of them. New Orleans' problems before and after the hurricane stem from a massive pocket of people who have been kept down by the welfare culture.

These people simply won't pick lettuce or clean toilets.
17 posted on 09/13/2005 8:28:17 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired!)
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To: hinterlander
I agree. With all this spending and hand-wringing over unemployed and displaced Americans, now is the best time to enat legislation to deport ILLEGAL aliens, fine their employers, and build The Great Wall of Texas:


18 posted on 09/13/2005 8:41:09 AM PDT by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: highlymotivated

Back in the early days of John Englers governorship in Michigan he took a chain saw to the welfare rolls here. There was the expected screaming and crying but it worked.

I saw people who had lived on welfare for their entire adult lives scrambling to find work. In a few years those people were turning up at car dealerships to pick out new cars, talking to realtors about buying their first homes, and shopping on earned money instead of given money.


19 posted on 09/13/2005 8:48:01 AM PDT by cripplecreek (If you must obey your party, may your chains rest lightly upon your shoulders.)
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To: HiJinx

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Support our Minutemen Patriots!

Be Ever Vigilant ~ Bump!


20 posted on 09/13/2005 8:54:26 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: hinterlander

This is the same as the pre-Katrina argument that you could solve two of the biggest problems in our country with one action: deport all illegal aliens and discontinue wellfare. Welfare recipients could more than cover the labor shortage. This is one of the best ideas I've ever heard but it will never happen for two big reasons. 1 - no politician in office today has the stones to take on the fevered whining and hating that the left would put out (who would probably successfully classify said politician as a poor-hating racist). 2 - those who have been living off the government teet since Johnson gifted us this great society have no work ethic and have not gained a single job skill during their time on the couch.


22 posted on 09/13/2005 9:08:36 AM PDT by Pookee
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To: thelastvirgil

I live in NE Okla. and my cbusiness alone has taken in about 20 of these NO "refugees" with rewally crappy pay (a lot less than they were getting, accrodign to their applicationa anyway. so I know that SOME want to work...
I seen a whole bunch of "refeugees hauled in the back of a pick up truck from the army base they are staying in, direct to the liquer store.... hmmmm, food for thought, tho I can say I would want a drink too.


23 posted on 09/13/2005 9:12:02 AM PDT by groovejedi
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To: thelastvirgil

I live in NE Okla. and my business alone has taken in about 20 of these NO "refugees" with rewally crappy pay (a lot less than they were getting, accrodign to their applicationa anyway. so I know that SOME want to work...
I seen a whole bunch of "refeugees hauled in the back of a pick up truck from the army base they are staying in, direct to the liquer store.... hmmmm, food for thought, tho I can say I would want a drink too.


24 posted on 09/13/2005 9:12:08 AM PDT by groovejedi
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To: aspiring.hillbilly
Whilst I agree that the debit card idea was flawed and subject to gross abuse, $2000 does not go far when you have nothing.

Best thing for these poor folks is to find them jobs.

25 posted on 09/13/2005 9:15:06 AM PDT by Churchillspirit (Anaheim Angels - 2002 World Series Champions)
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To: cripplecreek
There also needs to be a BIG incentive for companies hiring American workers at a decent wage?

Maybe HEAVY FINES (enforced) on those who hire illegal aliens? Oh, I forgot, it's already illegal to hire illegal aliens.

In the Bush/Clinton/Bush push for global government, American laws have been trampled. We peons are the only ones who have to follow the laws.

26 posted on 09/13/2005 9:55:09 AM PDT by janetgreen
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To: cripplecreek

We had just moved to Michigan at that time. I was shocked at the bleeding heart stories in the paper, a man who had been out of jail for 6 months, had no family or dependents and he was crying that they were taking away his food stamps! I worked for a short time at Meijers in Holland, and there were a group of ladies hired at the same time I was that had moved there from Illinois because the wellfare laws were more lenient, and now they had to get jobs! How unfair was that? Engler was an excellent governor, too bad there were term limits.


27 posted on 09/13/2005 9:55:23 AM PDT by old and cranky (You! Out Of The Gene Pool - Now!)
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To: janetgreen

"Maybe HEAVY FINES (enforced) on those who hire illegal aliens?"


Obviously, and fines aren't enough. I want to see jail time for executives who allow the hiring of illegals.


28 posted on 09/13/2005 9:57:39 AM PDT by cripplecreek (If you must obey your party, may your chains rest lightly upon your shoulders.)
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To: cripplecreek
I want to see jail time for executives who allow the hiring of illegals.

They'll never see jail time - they're GWBush's buddies and campaign contributors, and none of them give a crap what we think, or how angry we are when we're forced to finance this illegal alien mess.

29 posted on 09/13/2005 10:02:39 AM PDT by janetgreen
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To: hinterlander

Work? You've got to be kidding. They're holding out for 9/11 type payouts so they'll never have to work again.


30 posted on 09/13/2005 10:06:43 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: cripplecreek
Unfortunately Americans have to make enough to live on after taxes medical and other expenses.

I actually enjoy mowing lawns and when I was unemployed I seriously considered getting a job with a lawn service. But due to taxes and high cost of insurance I looked until I could find a job with good benefits.

31 posted on 09/13/2005 10:08:15 AM PDT by proudofthesouth (Boycotting movies since 1988)
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To: janetgreen

"They'll never see jail time - they're GWBush's buddies and campaign contributors, and none of them give a crap what we think, or how angry we are when we're forced to finance this illegal alien mess."

GWB just signed an executive order suspending part of the labor laws that say companies have to pay the prevailing wage of the area they're operating in. I'm seeing this as a prelude to the companies involved in the re-building of NO to hire illegals. Wait and see.


32 posted on 09/13/2005 10:19:13 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: cripplecreek

Nothing will change until some laws are passed that equal the drug laws.

If you allow illegals to use your house, your house gets confiscated. If you are a contractor and you pick up illegals in your truck, your truck gets confiscated. If you have illegals working at your business, your business gets confiscated.

Then tell the Border Patrol that for now on their job security, pay, raises, and benefits are tied to the revenue generated by these laws and you might just succeed at curbing the problem.

You can never get government workers to actually DO THEIR JOB, unless you tie their compensation to GETTING THE JOB DONE! They know if they don't get the job done, they can just cry for more money and both parties are more than happy to oblige.


33 posted on 09/13/2005 11:05:33 AM PDT by anonsquared
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To: Paloma_55

I disagree. Illegals are illegally in this country,ship them back!


35 posted on 09/13/2005 1:02:23 PM PDT by patriciamary
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To: patriciamary

Huh?

I didn't say anything about illegals. I just pointed out that the Evacuees are not going to work when they can get paid to sit on their a55es and watch TV.


36 posted on 09/13/2005 1:08:24 PM PDT by Paloma_55
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To: hinterlander

"Remember how Bush was talking glibly about inviting "willing workers" to come here from other countries? We should give affirmative-action preference to willing workers from Louisiana and Mississippi."

Why do you think he says that? Look at the welfare state laid bare in front of you. The President probably feels we need to import a new 'working class' because the one we have won't work. Heck, Senator Landrieu even said so herself. "Can hardly get 'em to work on a sunny day." We can thank LBJ's Great Society for all of this.


37 posted on 09/13/2005 1:10:43 PM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: dljordan
GWB just signed an executive order suspending part of the labor laws that say companies have to pay the prevailing wage of the area they're operating in.

And there is also this...

September 10, 2005 - Feds Relax Hiring Rules For Storm Vicitims Who Lost Documentation: employers can simply state a potential worker was unable to provide documents because of the hurricane, according to a Homeland Security spokesperson. The policy is being implemented nationwide and subject to review in 45 days. [Thread]

38 posted on 09/13/2005 1:17:45 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: 351 Cleveland
What makes you say that? In your opinion, what percentage of evacuees wants a job, and what percentage doesn't?

I'd like to know the answer to that as well. Since I am from SE LA, I know several "evacuees" and they are looking for jobs. I don't know anyone sitting in a hotel room, drinking beer, watching the money pour in. In fact, someone in my family has lost their home, all their material belongings, etc. Where is the husband today? At work.

I am really getting tired of coming to Free Republic, a place that I have really enjoyed being in the past, and seeing my hometown and all my neighbors being trashed. Don't believe everything the MSM tells you. I know quite a few people who were in the Superdome, traveled to the Astrodome, and are dispersed all over the U.S. I know them because they *worked* with one of my relatives in New Orleans just a few weeks ago and have now lost every material possession. There are a lot of working people in those shelters, though I understand that it may be hard to believe based on what you're seeing in the media. Are the lifelong welfare recipients there too? Of course.

I can tell you that all the talk down here is about two things. First of all, we have all been incredibly touched by the outpouring of support and love from all over the USA. The other hot topic is the pain that we all feel watching our hometown trashed in the media and on the internet.

39 posted on 09/13/2005 1:21:57 PM PDT by lsucat
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To: Dudoight
You gotta be kidding. Illegal aliens do the work that our citizens are not willing to do. Which of them would take the outdoor, hard labor jobs that most of the illegals do? Now...I am against illegal aliens coming to this country and working....but they certainly fill a niche that our 'worthy' citizens will not fill. If there were no illegal aliens to take the low pay...employers might have to raise what they pay.

The United States doesn't need, nor has the United States ever needed, illegal alien workers. Any job currently held by an illegal alien can be filled by an American worker or a legal immigrant worker. If we need additional workers, Congress can increase the number of legal immigrants that are allowed into the United States.

40 posted on 09/13/2005 1:31:14 PM PDT by judgeandjury
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To: hinterlander

Mexico City, May 17, 2005. In a speech Friday, Fox praised the dedication of Mexicans working in the United States, saying they're willing to take jobs that "even blacks" won't do.

I hate when reality interferes with best intentions.


41 posted on 09/13/2005 3:26:53 PM PDT by UglyinLA
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To: hinterlander

My mom still lives in the inner city in DC. The McDonalds around the corner from her has nothing but Hispanic employees. They all looked to be in their 20s to 50s.I asked the manager, who was black, why and he told me that the local black kids don't want to do that kind of work. Let's be honest. A lot of our slum dwellers don't want to do honest, hard work and will go to great lengths to avoid it.


42 posted on 09/13/2005 3:55:50 PM PDT by thathamiltonwoman
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To: Paloma_55

I'm sorry, I was referring to the part of the article about illegal aliens.I posted it on the wrong reply.Sorry Again.


43 posted on 09/13/2005 3:57:29 PM PDT by patriciamary
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To: hinterlander

Our Black Americans have been pushed behind the favored race, Latinos.


44 posted on 09/13/2005 8:43:08 PM PDT by television is just wrong (http://hehttp://print.google.com/print/doc?articleidisblogs.blogspot.com/ (visit blogs, visit ads).)
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To: judgeandjury

You are correct. We do have enough of our own citizens who CAN do the work. But we sure have a lot who WONT. I agree with you on all points.


45 posted on 09/14/2005 4:59:10 AM PDT by Dudoight
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