"It's the first segment of O'Reilly for anyone who wants to find the transcript."
No need, I got a vid capture for our use. Just click the pic:
Posted on 09/16/2005 8:01:28 PM PDT by Ramtek57
She said "I received bottled water, dry and canned food, $300 in Wal-Mart gift cards and a 16-pound turkey. I needed to buy clothing and furniture," she said."
Oddly enough, I don't the backhand there.
She got food, water and $300 at Wal-Mart.
When I read it, it seems to me that she was saying, referring to the Wal-mart gift cards, that she needed to buy clothes and furniture, both of which are available at Wal-Mart.
Maybe I didn't see the 'slam' because I wasn't looking for it.
*shrug*
Whatever.
I'm sorry I even bothered posting a first-hand account of one woman's odyssey after Katrina.
I surely didn't think it would be fodder for a war of words.
Who is Dunne?
But Nagin is now boastful that NWO is crime and drug free and vows to keep it that way!
UTOPIA!!!
Oh God, how sick can it get?
Orleans Parish
Conditions at the Convention Center may not have been as bad as initially thought, said New Orleans Police Chief Eddie Compass.
He said no bodies of children have been found and there has also been no evidence of sexual assaults.
NEWS RELEASE FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Contact:
TFC Willie Williams
Louisiana State Police
Public Affairs / Troop I
(337)989-7569/pager
September 1, 2005
Louisiana State Police Troop I would like to ask all media outlets not to broadcast unconfirmed reports of civil unrest. These reports are only serving to excite and upset the citizens of Acadiana. Please help to dispel these rumors, for example, there are no riots at the Centroplex or the Cajundome. There is no confirmed truth to a sudden rise of robberies or carjackings in the Lafayette area. Rest assured, if any situation occurs, we will advise the media most expeditiously. Please help us quell these rumors.
I guess that bulletin of Sept 1 contradicts what the good doctor saw, and reported last night...
Eddie Compass might want to rethink that.
Oh no! I'm sorry. I don't mean to sound so snarky. I'm glad you posted the article!
I read back over my posts and I DO sound critical of you and your opinion. I guess that makes me the "twit". lol
(slinking off in embarrasment)
Salamander, I'm sorry if I upset you. This subject is just something that stirs me to speak out and really, I thank you for posting it because it gives me the chance to stress the biggest thing that bothers me in this whole tragedy.
A story like this just points out the fact that people are not or will not look at this disaster and the scope of it realistically. In a disaster this big, we just cannot expect that in 19 days everyone that was affected by it would be happily taken care of and living in their own apartment with everything they need. I think there is something wrong, seriously wrong with our perpective if we don't see this.
What these agencies and all the workers and volunteers who work for them have done since Katrina made landfall 19 days ago is just astounding, amazing and unbelievable. It goes way beyond what would have been reasonably feasible.
Americans, in general, just do not understand hardship anymore. So much so, that they can't even look at this huge natural disaster in a realistic light. Americans are suffering and we think that that just can't be! Not in America! Someone has to be to blame for this going on SO LONG, it's the government, it's FEMA, it's the Red Cross! They should stop everyone's suffering immediately.
Unfortunately, it's just not possible. It's going to take more time - like the General said, "If it was easy, someone would have already done it." This woman has recieved some help and if she is really qualified to recieve more she will. I'm sorry for her individually, but to make it an indictment on the whole system, I think is wrong.
I'm not saying that you made it an idictment on the system. I'm speaking about the article.
The whole thing is so friggin' huge it's mind boggling.
For myself, I wouldn't haven't waited for *anyone* to rescue me.
I'd have found a way out any way possible long before it hit, if not for my own sake, for my dogs.
And you're right.
People have gotten "soft".
The city people who have moved into my fair rural wilderness lose their minds every time it snows an inch or two and I -clearly- recall going to school even though the snow was falling and was expected to accumulate up to a foot or 2 during the day.
[*most* ice storms they let us stay home, but not all of them]
Now they call a "snow day" if a flurry is in the forecast.
[and don't even bother looking for a gallon of milk or a loaf of bread if 6 or more inches is in the works...the "panicky Petes" have run out and hoarded it all]....;)
I seriously doubt NO will resemble its former self for a very, very long time and it's unrealistic to expect that it will.
What happened there is simply too -big-.
In my not-so-humble opinion, the blame lays squarely on the heads of Nagin and that village idiot posing as a governor.
if either of them had acted prudently and promptly, lots of people [and animals] wouldn't be lost right now.
okeydoke
The NG barricaded itself and hid in a confrence room in the convention center afraid to be seen, while people were dragged off and left to the gangs. Several witnesses to this were on Nancy Grace on Court TV.
Look out, y'all, I feel a rant coming on...
I understood what the woman was saying in that article. I've been through some very hard times and there's nothing more frustrating than people giving you stuff you don't need and can't trade for whatever it is that you urgently require.
The 16-pound turkey, for example. What on earth were one woman and one child going to do with that? They weren't staying anywhere she could even prepare it!
A Wal-Mart card definitely would have helped with clothing and furniture, but it wouldn't have been accepted by a motel desk clerk. It's undeniable -- some things you just need cash for, and the rest falls into place later.
I have found that when I am seriously short of cash and forced to ask for help, all I ever get is piles of used clothing. It drives me nuts because, although the donations are certainly well-intentioned, I can't barter a bag of clothing to keep utilities turned on, pay my rent, fill my gas tank, or stop my car insurance from being terminated. All it does is allow me to "pay it forward," because I can easily re-donate the hand-me-downs in situations like Katrina.
When it comes to charity, many people have control issues that they like to wield over you, and they seem to enjoy kicking you when you're down. For example, when I do ask for practical clothing for my daughter to wear to day care, I inevitably get frilly velvet dresses instead, the kind you only wear on holidays or to special church services. Her grandmother rationalized it this way: "I'm not going to give you money for the electric bill because you're the one who's using all the appliances. How much energy could a child possibly consume anyway?" It isn't obvious to her that, if I'm sitting in the dark without any air conditioning and unable to use the microwave or refrigerator for meals, her precious granddaughter will be sitting there sweating and hungry right next to me unable to watch her favorite cartoons.
But that's what often happens when you're forced to rely on other people's generosity, you get that "my way or the highway" attitude or agencies who tell you "Sorry, you're not just destitute enough. You'll have to come back after you're evicted. There are other people with needs greater than yours...Next!"
There is an agency like that here in Central Louisiana that gets its funding from the big Catholic churches. They told me they wouldn't help with utilities because I had the audacity to use part of my final paycheck to pay my car insurance bill. "What do you think is more important, paying car insurance or keeping the lights on for your kids?" the intake worker thundered at me as if she were going to report me to Child Protective Services. My one child stared back incredulously at this vitriolic tirade. I replied, "If I'm going to drive my little girl to school and look for another job like the welfare and unemployment laws require me to, then I have to insure the car. What good am I to my daughter if I get pulled over, my car gets impounded, I wind up in jail and she ends up in foster care? Don't you realize that you're telling me I have to literally break the law in order to get any help from you?" They turned me down flat anyway and I had to start the whole process all over again with Catholic Charities, who only gave me $50 toward past-due utilities totaling over $300. In the end, it was a tiny Baptist church that came to the rescue just as CLECO was sending its truck out to cut the power to our apartment. I'll never forget how enraged I was by the treatment I got from that agency; it was humiliating. However, they're the only game in town, so I have to bite the bullet in case I have to apply there again some day (oh please God, no, anything but that).
OK, I'll quit ranting. I just wanted to cite some specific examples because it's crystal clear what that woman was saying. She didn't seem ungrateful, just frustrated at being unable to manage her limited resources in a manner that made sense for a mother-daughter situation.
Thanks for allowing me to vent; I shall now exhale, LOL!
I totally agree with you. I hope out of all of this we can find ways to make 'the system' work better and faster in the future. We have so much that we can learn from what's happened. I just hope that some of the idiots out there do really learn something, instead of sticking their heads in the sand and just whining.
September 15, 2005 - 20:00:00 ET
TRANSCRIPT.
NANCY GRACE, HOST: Tonight, hard evidence of sex assaults, robberies, gunfire and cops turning a blind eye at the New Orleans convention center. Why is it all being kept secret? Why is there no attempt to document the wrongdoing and apprehend the perpetrators? Hurricane Katrina victims suffered countless assaults while under government protection from Katrina, a total breakdown of law and order.
GRACE: Right now, to Will Haygood with "The Washington Post." Will, for those people that have not read your article, what happened in the convention center?
WILL HAYGOOD, "WASHINGTON POST": There were sexual assaults, reports of sexual assaults. There was gunfire. There were people who died. And it was a fairly horrific five days for those people.
GRACE: Mr. Haygood, correct me if I`m wrong, but doesn`t your article state that there were 250 National Guard troops there in one of the halls of the convention center?
HAYGOOD: Yes, there were, and apparently, they felt that it was not - - it was not prudent for them to go into the hall to try to calm the violence. You know, that was something that...
GRACE: Not prudent. Not prudent. I thought that`s why we had the National Guard, Mr. Haygood. Now, also according to your article, the National Guard actually barricaded themselves into one of these halls, so the people on the outside that didn`t have food, didn`t have water, needed protection, couldn`t get in where they were!
HAYGOOD: Right. Right. And you know -- and there was much worry, of course, amongst mothers and fathers who were anxious to get food and medicine and help for their -- for their children. There were a lot of children there. There were a lot of young single mothers there who had children.
GRACE: Well, also, your article outlines gang rapes, sexual assaults, gunfire, actual deaths, murders there in the convention center, with the National Guard holed up in one of the halls!
HAYGOOD: Right. Right. That happened. At the Superdome, there was -- there was a way to check for weapons as people entered the Superdome Sunday. But at the convention center, there was no such plan set up, and - - you know, and so it was willy-nilly, folks rushed in there. They were frightened. You know, many were scared. It was dark Monday night. You know, it was still raining. You know, flood waters were everywhere. People had lost relatives trying to make that trek there. And it was just a state of sheer pandemonium.
GRACE: Twenty thousand people together in the convention center. We now have learned through Mr. Haygood`s article that rival gang members from various housing projects were all in the convention center together, with young girls, single mothers, little children, the elderly. At one point, Haygood writes, they broke into the liquor and beverage area and got out hundreds of cases of liquor and beer.
DR. GREG HENDERSON, TREATED KATRINA VICTIMS AT NEW ORLEANS CONVENTION CENTER: HENDERSON: Well, I mean, Anderson was very accurate, and everybody else who`s told that story, about basically what happened, you know, during the days at the convention center is just right on. I mean, it was just -- you know, I recently referred to it, it`s as if the entire city of New Orleans seemed to have vomited up its entire population into one place, and that was the convention center. All mass of humanity was just collected there, looking for some sort of help.
GRACE: What crimes did you hear about there in the convention center?
HENDERSON: ... I mean, basically, you can -- it was one continuous hell, but there were two types of hell. There was the hell that was during the day. And the hell during the day was the hell of trying to administer medical care to these people. But then, almost as if it was a Stephen King novel, there was a hell that descended upon the night, when, at nighttime, the gangs -- and indeed, that`s what happened, what I have heard that has happened, is basically, the gangs of New Orleans decided to occupy the convention center and make that their turf and make that their operating territory.
Now, they knew they couldn`t do much during the day because, you know, there were some people watching. But at nighttime, there wasn`t any lights. And the way they would operate -- and this is the way it was told to me by the patients I saw during the day -- is they`d spend the day sort of eyeing and picking out their prey, if you will, young women, some as young as 6 years old, and figuring out that, That`s the one I want to rape tonight.
And then when the sun went down, they`d take their weapons and they`d go out into the crowd and they`d start firing up in the crowd, and that would cause a lot of pandemonium and take everybody`s eye off the ball and everybody would go hysterical. And during that mayhem, they would grab the women that they wanted to assault, drag them into the convention center and rape them, and sometimes they would kill them and sometimes they wouldn`t. One particular incident that just murdered me, practically, was -- because I`ve got a 6-year-old daughter and a 10-year-old daughter, was Wednesday night, I heard a report of a 6-year-old that had been raped and died during the trauma of the rape.
And it`s so -- like I said, it was just -- I mean, Anderson tells it well. You know, it just was hell. It was hell from start to finish, but there was a daytime hell and there was a nighttime hell, and the -- it`s -- the daytime hell is when I think I saw the best of humanity trying to help each other. And the nighttime hell is when I saw what true human evil can be.
GRACE: To Anderson Cooper. Anderson, all those nights you were reporting to us about the waters rising and all the human tragedy you were seeing, we had no idea what was happening at night inside the convention center.
COOPER: Yes, only people who were there, and people like Dr. Henderson, who made trips into there at great risk to himself. I mean, just -- Dr. Henderson is very modest. This is a man who was here for a conference. He wasn`t, you know, sent by FEMA. He wasn`t sent -- ordered to come here to help. He was here, just trapped in the city. He`d gotten his family out and decided, You know what? I`m just going to -- I`m going to do what I can. He helped out the New Orleans Police Department and he decided to help out the citizens at the convention center, to do whatever he could, so...
I just don`t think this should be swept away. I just don`t think that the people who were there -- I think they deserve to have their stories told and for this to be studied and looked at and remembered so that it never, ever happens again. I mean, why were those people told to go there? Why weren`t New Orleans police able to, you know, try to control it more, or at least get help from the state or the federal government. GRACE: You know, Haygood writes of cops going into the bathrooms at the convention center, stripping of their uniforms, throwing their badges in the trash so no one would identify them as police officersGRACE: You know, Haygood writes of cops going into the bathrooms at the convention center, stripping of their uniforms, throwing their badges in the trash so no one would identify them as police officers. GRACE: Twenty thousand people evacuated into the convention center. That convention center can hold over 100,000 people. So why were rapes, gang rapes, shootings, assaults, even murders allowed to happen in the convention center? Everybody keeps saying this is America. We know this is America, but things like this aren`t supposed to happen.
I want to go straight to a man who was an eyewitness to what went down in the convention center. Leon Doby, what did you see?
LEON DOBY, SPENT THREE DAYS AT CONVENTION CENTER: Oh, ma`am, I saw everything, from stabbings to fights to women hollering, being dragged off in bathrooms. I like to call it the mouth of hell. That`s what the convention center was.
GRACE: Is it true that police would just drive by and keep on going?
DOBY: Drive by. They did at least throw out one case of 24 bottles of water when they passed. That`s all.
GRACE: You were there with your daughters, ages 1 and 3. You took them in a crate that you pulled behind you through the water, first to the Superdome and then turned away to the convention center. How long were you in there?
DOBY: Oh, about three days.
GRACE: Mr. Doby, what would everybody do when they would see a lady screaming, getting dragged off by one of these gang members into the bathroom?
DOBY: Well, all I can say is, ma`am, people were really worried about theirselves. Like everyone was saying, they had a lot of single mothers there with their kids, trying to do the best they can, as well as single fathers trying to do the best as they can, as well as couples. We was just trying to do the best we could to get over that. But I have to resent the word "refugees." We`re not refugees. We were people just trying to get over a tremendous storm that just tore us up.
GRACE: When you look back and realize these ladies were getting dragged off to be raped and nobody did anything, how do you feel?
DOBY: I feel horrible. I have two daughters who I love dearly, and I would never want nothing like that to happen to any of them, so...
GRACE: What were you afraid of? Why were you afraid to help? Because you had your two girls?
DOBY: Right, a 1-year-old and a 3-year-old. If I`d have let their hand go, they would have wound up being lost somewhere. Then I would really have been in bad shape.
GRACE: Mr. Doby, what was the National Guard doing holed up in one of the -- like, a banquet hall?
DOBY: I don`t know. I don`t know, ma`am.
GRACE: Did you try to get in there to where they were?
DOBY: I asked a few of them a couple of questions, but you know, they wasn`t in no kind of mood to answer no kind of questions or anything.
GRACE: Yes, I guess they weren`t.
GRACE: Doctor, do we even know how many people were killed in the convention center?
HENDERSON: You know, I can`t give you a specific number. I have heard -- I know it is at least 30 to 40 people.
GRACE: Oh, good Lord in heaven!
HENDERSON: I know that...
GRACE: And that`s over the space of...
HENDERSON: I know that -- I have heard -- again, sort of like you, I`ve had confirmed from so many different sources that there have been at least 30 to 40 bodies on the second floor of the convention center because that -- that became the de facto morgue of the convention center, and that`s by people who died of natural causes, et cetera. And even though I`m a pathologist, I am not a forensic pathologist.
GRACE: Well, you know...
HENDERSON: And I think it`s going to be the job of the forensic pathologists to sort through, OK, who died a traumatic death based upon a crime, and let`s start tracking them down.
GRACE: In the convention center. And Dr. Henderson, we got some photos of dead bodies there at the convention center, and we are not -- not -- showing them. But you can look at them and tell these people did not die naturally. Their bodies are all contorted, and they`re all bloody. It`s horrible!
GRACE: Doctor, do we even know how many people were killed in the convention center?
HENDERSON: You know, I can`t give you a specific number. I have heard -- I know it is at least 30 to 40 people.
GRACE: Oh, good Lord in heaven!
HENDERSON: I know that...
GRACE: And that`s over the space of...
HENDERSON: I know that -- I have heard -- again, sort of like you, I`ve had confirmed from so many different sources that there have been at least 30 to 40 bodies on the second floor of the convention center because that -- that became the de facto morgue of the convention center, and that`s by people who died of natural causes, et cetera. And even though I`m a pathologist, I am not a forensic pathologist.
GRACE: Well, you know...
HENDERSON: And I think it`s going to be the job of the forensic pathologists to sort through, OK, who died a traumatic death based upon a crime, and let`s start tracking them down.
GRACE: In the convention center. And Dr. Henderson, we got some photos of dead bodies there at the convention center, and we are not -- not -- showing them. But you can look at them and tell these people did not die naturally. Their bodies are all contorted, and they`re all bloody. It`s horrible!
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0509/15/ng.01.html
September 15, 2005 - 20:00:00 ET
TRANSCRIPT.
NANCY GRACE, HOST: Tonight, hard evidence of sex assaults, robberies, gunfire and cops turning a blind eye at the New Orleans convention center. Why is it all being kept secret? Why is there no attempt to document the wrongdoing and apprehend the perpetrators? Hurricane Katrina victims suffered countless assaults while under government protection from Katrina, a total breakdown of law and order.
GRACE: Right now, to Will Haygood with "The Washington Post." Will, for those people that have not read your article, what happened in the convention center?
WILL HAYGOOD, "WASHINGTON POST": There were sexual assaults, reports of sexual assaults. There was gunfire. There were people who died. And it was a fairly horrific five days for those people.
GRACE: Mr. Haygood, correct me if I`m wrong, but doesn`t your article state that there were 250 National Guard troops there in one of the halls of the convention center?
HAYGOOD: Yes, there were, and apparently, they felt that it was not - - it was not prudent for them to go into the hall to try to calm the violence. You know, that was something that...
GRACE: Not prudent. Not prudent. I thought that`s why we had the National Guard, Mr. Haygood. Now, also according to your article, the National Guard actually barricaded themselves into one of these halls, so the people on the outside that didn`t have food, didn`t have water, needed protection, couldn`t get in where they were!
HAYGOOD: Right. Right. And you know -- and there was much worry, of course, amongst mothers and fathers who were anxious to get food and medicine and help for their -- for their children. There were a lot of children there. There were a lot of young single mothers there who had children.
GRACE: Well, also, your article outlines gang rapes, sexual assaults, gunfire, actual deaths, murders there in the convention center, with the National Guard holed up in one of the halls!
HAYGOOD: Right. Right. That happened. At the Superdome, there was -- there was a way to check for weapons as people entered the Superdome Sunday. But at the convention center, there was no such plan set up, and - - you know, and so it was willy-nilly, folks rushed in there. They were frightened. You know, many were scared. It was dark Monday night. You know, it was still raining. You know, flood waters were everywhere. People had lost relatives trying to make that trek there. And it was just a state of sheer pandemonium.
GRACE: Twenty thousand people together in the convention center. We now have learned through Mr. Haygood`s article that rival gang members from various housing projects were all in the convention center together, with young girls, single mothers, little children, the elderly. At one point, Haygood writes, they broke into the liquor and beverage area and got out hundreds of cases of liquor and beer.
DR. GREG HENDERSON, TREATED KATRINA VICTIMS AT NEW ORLEANS CONVENTION CENTER: HENDERSON: Well, I mean, Anderson was very accurate, and everybody else who`s told that story, about basically what happened, you know, during the days at the convention center is just right on. I mean, it was just -- you know, I recently referred to it, it`s as if the entire city of New Orleans seemed to have vomited up its entire population into one place, and that was the convention center. All mass of humanity was just collected there, looking for some sort of help.
GRACE: What crimes did you hear about there in the convention center?
HENDERSON: ... I mean, basically, you can -- it was one continuous hell, but there were two types of hell. There was the hell that was during the day. And the hell during the day was the hell of trying to administer medical care to these people. But then, almost as if it was a Stephen King novel, there was a hell that descended upon the night, when, at nighttime, the gangs -- and indeed, that`s what happened, what I have heard that has happened, is basically, the gangs of New Orleans decided to occupy the convention center and make that their turf and make that their operating territory.
Now, they knew they couldn`t do much during the day because, you know, there were some people watching. But at nighttime, there wasn`t any lights. And the way they would operate -- and this is the way it was told to me by the patients I saw during the day -- is they`d spend the day sort of eyeing and picking out their prey, if you will, young women, some as young as 6 years old, and figuring out that, That`s the one I want to rape tonight.
And then when the sun went down, they`d take their weapons and they`d go out into the crowd and they`d start firing up in the crowd, and that would cause a lot of pandemonium and take everybody`s eye off the ball and everybody would go hysterical. And during that mayhem, they would grab the women that they wanted to assault, drag them into the convention center and rape them, and sometimes they would kill them and sometimes they wouldn`t. One particular incident that just murdered me, practically, was -- because I`ve got a 6-year-old daughter and a 10-year-old daughter, was Wednesday night, I heard a report of a 6-year-old that had been raped and died during the trauma of the rape.
And it`s so -- like I said, it was just -- I mean, Anderson tells it well. You know, it just was hell. It was hell from start to finish, but there was a daytime hell and there was a nighttime hell, and the -- it`s -- the daytime hell is when I think I saw the best of humanity trying to help each other. And the nighttime hell is when I saw what true human evil can be.
GRACE: To Anderson Cooper. Anderson, all those nights you were reporting to us about the waters rising and all the human tragedy you were seeing, we had no idea what was happening at night inside the convention center.
COOPER: Yes, only people who were there, and people like Dr. Henderson, who made trips into there at great risk to himself. I mean, just -- Dr. Henderson is very modest. This is a man who was here for a conference. He wasn`t, you know, sent by FEMA. He wasn`t sent -- ordered to come here to help. He was here, just trapped in the city. He`d gotten his family out and decided, You know what? I`m just going to -- I`m going to do what I can. He helped out the New Orleans Police Department and he decided to help out the citizens at the convention center, to do whatever he could, so...
I just don`t think this should be swept away. I just don`t think that the people who were there -- I think they deserve to have their stories told and for this to be studied and looked at and remembered so that it never, ever happens again. I mean, why were those people told to go there? Why weren`t New Orleans police able to, you know, try to control it more, or at least get help from the state or the federal government. GRACE: You know, Haygood writes of cops going into the bathrooms at the convention center, stripping of their uniforms, throwing their badges in the trash so no one would identify them as police officersGRACE: You know, Haygood writes of cops going into the bathrooms at the convention center, stripping of their uniforms, throwing their badges in the trash so no one would identify them as police officers. GRACE: Twenty thousand people evacuated into the convention center. That convention center can hold over 100,000 people. So why were rapes, gang rapes, shootings, assaults, even murders allowed to happen in the convention center? Everybody keeps saying this is America. We know this is America, but things like this aren`t supposed to happen.
I want to go straight to a man who was an eyewitness to what went down in the convention center. Leon Doby, what did you see?
LEON DOBY, SPENT THREE DAYS AT CONVENTION CENTER: Oh, ma`am, I saw everything, from stabbings to fights to women hollering, being dragged off in bathrooms. I like to call it the mouth of hell. That`s what the convention center was.
GRACE: Is it true that police would just drive by and keep on going?
DOBY: Drive by. They did at least throw out one case of 24 bottles of water when they passed. That`s all.
GRACE: You were there with your daughters, ages 1 and 3. You took them in a crate that you pulled behind you through the water, first to the Superdome and then turned away to the convention center. How long were you in there?
DOBY: Oh, about three days.
GRACE: Mr. Doby, what would everybody do when they would see a lady screaming, getting dragged off by one of these gang members into the bathroom?
DOBY: Well, all I can say is, ma`am, people were really worried about theirselves. Like everyone was saying, they had a lot of single mothers there with their kids, trying to do the best they can, as well as single fathers trying to do the best as they can, as well as couples. We was just trying to do the best we could to get over that. But I have to resent the word "refugees." We`re not refugees. We were people just trying to get over a tremendous storm that just tore us up.
GRACE: When you look back and realize these ladies were getting dragged off to be raped and nobody did anything, how do you feel?
DOBY: I feel horrible. I have two daughters who I love dearly, and I would never want nothing like that to happen to any of them, so...
GRACE: What were you afraid of? Why were you afraid to help? Because you had your two girls?
DOBY: Right, a 1-year-old and a 3-year-old. If I`d have let their hand go, they would have wound up being lost somewhere. Then I would really have been in bad shape.
GRACE: Mr. Doby, what was the National Guard doing holed up in one of the -- like, a banquet hall?
DOBY: I don`t know. I don`t know, ma`am.
GRACE: Did you try to get in there to where they were?
DOBY: I asked a few of them a couple of questions, but you know, they wasn`t in no kind of mood to answer no kind of questions or anything.
GRACE: Yes, I guess they weren`t.
GRACE: Doctor, do we even know how many people were killed in the convention center?
HENDERSON: You know, I can`t give you a specific number. I have heard -- I know it is at least 30 to 40 people.
GRACE: Oh, good Lord in heaven!
HENDERSON: I know that...
GRACE: And that`s over the space of...
HENDERSON: I know that -- I have heard -- again, sort of like you, I`ve had confirmed from so many different sources that there have been at least 30 to 40 bodies on the second floor of the convention center because that -- that became the de facto morgue of the convention center, and that`s by people who died of natural causes, et cetera. And even though I`m a pathologist, I am not a forensic pathologist.
GRACE: Well, you know...
HENDERSON: And I think it`s going to be the job of the forensic pathologists to sort through, OK, who died a traumatic death based upon a crime, and let`s start tracking them down.
GRACE: In the convention center. And Dr. Henderson, we got some photos of dead bodies there at the convention center, and we are not -- not -- showing them. But you can look at them and tell these people did not die naturally. Their bodies are all contorted, and they`re all bloody. It`s horrible!
GRACE: Doctor, do we even know how many people were killed in the convention center?
HENDERSON: You know, I can`t give you a specific number. I have heard -- I know it is at least 30 to 40 people.
GRACE: Oh, good Lord in heaven!
HENDERSON: I know that...
GRACE: And that`s over the space of...
HENDERSON: I know that -- I have heard -- again, sort of like you, I`ve had confirmed from so many different sources that there have been at least 30 to 40 bodies on the second floor of the convention center because that -- that became the de facto morgue of the convention center, and that`s by people who died of natural causes, et cetera. And even though I`m a pathologist, I am not a forensic pathologist.
GRACE: Well, you know...
HENDERSON: And I think it`s going to be the job of the forensic pathologists to sort through, OK, who died a traumatic death based upon a crime, and let`s start tracking them down.
GRACE: In the convention center. And Dr. Henderson, we got some photos of dead bodies there at the convention center, and we are not -- not -- showing them. But you can look at them and tell these people did not die naturally. Their bodies are all contorted, and they`re all bloody. It`s horrible!
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0509/15/ng.01.html
Great rant!...:))
bttt
The difference between a wise man and a fool is that the wise man learns from his mistakes.
Bottom line is, your survival ultimately depends on *you*.
Hopefully they've figured that out now.
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