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Hurricane Rita Live Thread
NHC - NOAA ^ | 20 September 2005 | NHC - NOAA

Posted on 09/20/2005 6:16:38 AM PDT by NautiNurse

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To: Gabz
it has actually become rather comical because, in typical style, they ignore facts.

I have come to the conclusion that it's simply a waste of time to spell out the facts to such people. When someone is misinformed, spelling out the facts will usually remedy that. But these people are not misinformed. They are impervious to the truth. The more you explain the facts to them, the more they resist. It's like speaking to someone in a language they simply don't understand. It doesn't matter how many times you tell them or how loudly you do it; it simply doesn't penetrate. It's like talking to a wall.

Case in point: my attempt to educate an acquaintance about the fact that more hurricanes struck the US by decade in the late Nineteenth Century than in recent times. This person acts as if hurricanes were a new phenomenon and happening at a greater rate than ever before. I can understand how someone who doesn't know the facts might fall for the global warming bunk, but you'd think that once you show him the historical records, he'd say, "Hey, you're right. I didn't know that." Forget about it. This person wants to believe what he wants to believe, and any facts that contradict that are ignored. It's pathological.

2,281 posted on 09/21/2005 12:20:39 AM PDT by laz (They can bus 'em to the polls, but they can't bus 'em out of the path of a Cat 5 hurricane.)
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To: stlnative
...I am already missing him badly but I know other people are needing him right now.

God Bless you. I read those words and all I wanted to do was hug you.

This is the best I can do.........

{{{{{{{{{{{{{stlnative}}}}}}}}}}}}}

2,282 posted on 09/21/2005 12:22:32 AM PDT by Gabz ((Chincoteague, VA) Tryin' to Reason with Hurricane season)
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To: blondee123

Me too.

Collective Prayers for a whimp of a storm.

Nite.


2,283 posted on 09/21/2005 12:24:45 AM PDT by oceanperch (If I am here it means I over did it on the hill hike today and my feet are to sore to stand)
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To: blondee123
They don't build them like that anymore.

You're right........and we bought it from the son of the man who built it, after his passing - we're only the second owners. This place is rock solid. 1945 was when the original part was initally finished - all the additions, including the attic are just as solidly done. We just added insulatin and drywall to make it into usable space.

The creek that is our north property line is named for him and the n/s road slightly over from us is named for the man he partnered with for crops on the land while he was in the service before and during WWII.

2,284 posted on 09/21/2005 12:33:12 AM PDT by Gabz ((Chincoteague, VA) Tryin' to Reason with Hurricane season)
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To: blondee123

Goodnight FRiend - not far behind you.


2,285 posted on 09/21/2005 12:34:01 AM PDT by Gabz ((Chincoteague, VA) Tryin' to Reason with Hurricane season)
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To: Gabz

Thanks Gabz's for the hugs!!!
I will be back on the thread tomorrow.
Time to say some prayers and then get some sleep.

Good Nite


2,286 posted on 09/21/2005 12:35:47 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: MEG33

Good luck and know you're in all our prayers.


2,287 posted on 09/21/2005 12:35:54 AM PDT by Gabz ((Chincoteague, VA) Tryin' to Reason with Hurricane season)
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To: raygun
That doppler shot was taken at 9:48 UTC, that's 4:48 CDT. You're looking at bad data and from the wrong side of the storm, about 50 miles west of the west eyewall. If you go back and look at the Katrina advisories, you'll see that the injection of dry air into the core had a big impact on maximum winds on the west side of the eye, specifically the SW quadrant, which is where Houma was in relationship to the eye as it passed New Orleans. Hurricane force winds only extended out about 40-50 miles from center in the SW quadrant, meaning Houma didn't even come close to seeing the worst of it. The NE quadrant had hurricane force winds extending out at least twice that distance.

Granted, that was a good data set you posted from Houma, but what would be more telling is a similar data set from Slidell, Biloxi, etc. I'm betting there is no data set from those areas, as the instrumentation in that area was knocked offline or destroyed well in advance of the eastern eyewall's approach. NHC reported that SLidell radar was showing winds in excess of 125 kts before it was taken out. While most of the damage in that area was done by storm surge, you need cat 4/5 winds for an extended period of time to drive up the 25+ ft of storm surge that hit Mississippi.

2,288 posted on 09/21/2005 12:35:57 AM PDT by DaisyCutter
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To: Gabz

Put some vanilla beans in the vodka and let it set for a couple of months, and you will have a the most wonderful vanilla.


2,289 posted on 09/21/2005 12:37:58 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, Over there, we will be there until it is Over there.")
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To: Gabz

morning...


2,290 posted on 09/21/2005 12:38:18 AM PDT by NautiNurse (The task before us is enormous, but so is the heart of America.)
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To: laz
But these people are not misinformed. They are impervious to the truth.

Those two sentences sum it up quite nicely, I would say.

I have learned to not deal with them at night (especially this late) and only deal with them while having morning coffee :)

2,291 posted on 09/21/2005 12:40:20 AM PDT by Gabz ((Chincoteague, VA) Tryin' to Reason with Hurricane season)
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To: mariabush

How about gin soaked raisins. I've heard they are great for something...some ketchup heiress told me so...


2,292 posted on 09/21/2005 12:41:27 AM PDT by NautiNurse (The task before us is enormous, but so is the heart of America.)
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To: stlnative
Time to say some prayers and then get some sleep.

I understand.

2,293 posted on 09/21/2005 12:41:31 AM PDT by Gabz ((Chincoteague, VA) Tryin' to Reason with Hurricane season)
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To: mariabush
Put some vanilla beans in the vodka and let it set for a couple of months, and you will have a the most wonderful vanilla.

Hmmmmmmmmm..........interesting.

Until I found this particular recipe for a cream sauce for fish I only bought vodka to make homemade kaluha.......thanks for the tip.

2,294 posted on 09/21/2005 12:43:35 AM PDT by Gabz ((Chincoteague, VA) Tryin' to Reason with Hurricane season)
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To: RGVTx

Not sure...which reporter it was. I saw it when he was having that news conference...it was a CNN report, I think.


2,295 posted on 09/21/2005 12:43:51 AM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: MEG33

What is left of my whole extented family lives in Conroe. Is that in the evacuation area??


2,296 posted on 09/21/2005 12:45:26 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, Over there, we will be there until it is Over there.")
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To: SeaBiscuit

Just so long as we don't have people calling for lobbing nukes into them.

1) Hurricanes' energy levels dwarf that of nuclear weapons

2) Radiation is nasty stuff

3) Radioactive hurricanes would be particularly nasty


2,297 posted on 09/21/2005 12:46:22 AM PDT by kenth (Here we go again. Praying Rita won't be a monster too.)
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To: Gabz

"But these people are not misinformed. They are impervious to the truth."

My old tagline was what I can recall of Reagan's quote, something like:

"It's not that liberals don't know much. It's just that what they know just ain't so."


2,298 posted on 09/21/2005 12:47:21 AM PDT by geopyg (Ever Vigilant, Never Fearful)
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To: NautiNurse

I am serious. I make homemade vanilla when I cannot get Mexican.


2,299 posted on 09/21/2005 12:48:38 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, Over there, we will be there until it is Over there.")
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To: mariabush
What is left of my whole extented family lives in Conroe. Is that in the evacuation area??

It's my understanding it's well outside any of the 'A', 'B' or 'C' evacuation zones.

2,300 posted on 09/21/2005 12:49:32 AM PDT by Heatseeker ("I sort of like liberals now. They’re kind of cute when they’re shivering and afraid." - Ann Coulter)
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