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MAJOR CONGESTION, THOUSANDS PARKED BY INTERSTATE DUE TO LACK OF GAS NEAR COLUMBUS, TEXAS
KLBJ Radio Station -- South Central Texas | 23 September 2005

Posted on 09/23/2005 5:51:47 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Time for a Dunkirk? Maybe the authorities could ORGANIZE volunteers from outlying areas to stage in organized areas, then shuttle people from the interstate to these staging areas so fellow Americans can take them to designated areas?

At least get them off the interstate.

Every time I see something like this, I think the military types need to be in charge of these types of operations. They are expert at planning.

FEMA needs to be revamped to be a military-type organization with an other-than-warfighting mission.


61 posted on 09/23/2005 7:07:30 AM PDT by wouldntbprudent ("Tell the truth. The Pajama People are watching you.")
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To: angcat

>I was never told that the government would take care of me. The same goes for employment, I never asked the President for a job. I don't know why some people think that way?<

Yesterday at the local Wal-Mart, I stopped to hand some spare cash to a schoolgirl, who was taking donations for Katrina relief. I talked to the kid's teacher, thanking her for spearheading this.

She told me the "government" had failed the folks in Mississippi. Rather than fuss at her, I reminded her that "WE" are the government, and that we as individuals can and must help.

The donations are going to an individual Mississippi middle school, where a friend of the local teacher works.


62 posted on 09/23/2005 7:09:06 AM PDT by Darnright (Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic.)
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To: MaryFromMichigan

VW TDI 750 miles per tank full at 60 mph. Heaven knows how many hours at idle.

Been there, done that. Hurricane Hugo from Charleston, SC.


63 posted on 09/23/2005 7:11:00 AM PDT by dhuffman@awod.com (The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.)
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To: Cricket24

---Uh...maybe I'm completely stupid but why don't they evacuate the low lying areas first.---

Because an orderly evacuation is like teaching cats to march.


64 posted on 09/23/2005 7:12:09 AM PDT by claudiustg (Vote for one Democrat, vote for them all...)
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To: montag813

>>God forbid we get a WMD attack, or simultaneous attack. The resulting chaos will be beyond anyone's nightmares.<<

Amen. These two hurricanes have NOT strengthened my faith in people in times of crisis.

We have an evac plan to use back-roads if possible, but I think everyone ought to plan on having to evacuate on foot if need be. Grab some gear, put on some hiking boots, and head for the hills - getting as far away from other people as possible. Large groups of people only beget crime, panic, and madness - no thank you.


65 posted on 09/23/2005 7:13:46 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow ("Heart of my own heart, whatever befall")
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To: MaryFromMichigan

How long will it take for them to burn those 5 gallons of gas sitting still on the highway?


67 posted on 09/23/2005 7:18:34 AM PDT by VA is for Freepers
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To: handy

Can you imagine trying to evacuate New York? They couldn't even get two large buildings evacuated in time. And look at typical traffic chaos in any big city on a weekday, whether NY, LA, Atlanta, Houston, wherever. It's already gridlocked when there is no emergency. There's little point in asking millions to jump into the fray at the same time. If you're in the city, you're in the city. Hope you prepared ahead.


68 posted on 09/23/2005 7:19:49 AM PDT by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Galveston native Paul Burka just now on FOX said that families apparently evacuated with as many personal belongings as possible, packed into all the family cars.

So if a family had 3 vehicles, they split up and took them all. Traffic planners didn't anticipate that. No one wanted to leave a car behind to the flood. So now they will park them on the shoulder or the median as they run out of gas and pack into one car, as they should have all along.

69 posted on 09/23/2005 7:29:48 AM PDT by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

If any of them have gas and a map, they can take Rt 71 south for about 15 miles and then US Hwy 90 Alt, south and west from there.


70 posted on 09/23/2005 7:31:32 AM PDT by Wuli
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The reason it is taking so long to close I-45 to one-way traffic is this: there are 1100 exits between Houston and Dallas.

I'm assuming the bus carrying the elderly people that caught fire and exploded did so because the driver had to ride his brakes for 500 miles.

I haven't heard what they are doing with the folks in the Astrodome.

71 posted on 09/23/2005 7:32:37 AM PDT by Tejas Punto (Stop the hate, Kanye - whoever you are)
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To: Darnright

I admire your resistance not to put your hand around her neck and choke the crap out of her!


72 posted on 09/23/2005 7:33:45 AM PDT by angcat
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To: traderrob6

I agree with you. You CAN'T evacuate a major city w/o problems and it will take days and days to do it. It's no one's fault.


73 posted on 09/23/2005 7:44:14 AM PDT by toomanygrasshoppers ("In technical terminology, he's a loon")
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To: traderrob6

'Yup'! You got it. Gotta make some kind of plan to help yourself. In the big cities though, many if not most, will not make it through a mega disaster - fact of life.


74 posted on 09/23/2005 7:57:34 AM PDT by Eighth Square
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To: Eighth Square

I'm not understanding this thread. When I go to the Houston highway cameras I don't see the thousands of cars that I saw last night, in fact the roads look almost empty. Where is all this congestion?


75 posted on 09/23/2005 8:01:18 AM PDT by pepperdog
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
The evacuation of Houston for this storm is beyond ridiculous. The news media fueled a panic that has caused most of this. Even in a direct hit, Houston is not built below sea level. The risk of massive flooding a la New Orleans is/was slim to none. Not to mention the fact that predicting the path of a hurricane is more of an art than a science. They are notorious for being unpredictable. The media was predicting catastrophe and it caused a panic.

Here in Dallas, people have also been panicking...IN DALLAS!!! Gas lines were huge yesterday, people buying CASES of water (as if Dallas would lose its water supply). Its stupid.

76 posted on 09/23/2005 8:03:53 AM PDT by dl5192
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To: angcat

The general overall tone coming out of Washington DC is that we are not to worry, that The Govmint will handle the war and that we can just go about our lives.

Sorry, the Government needs us, far more than we need it.


77 posted on 09/23/2005 8:14:11 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (3-7-77 (No that's not a Date))
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To: pepperdog

I-45N.


78 posted on 09/23/2005 8:22:54 AM PDT by Eighth Square
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To: dl5192

I agree. However, I must temper my comments these days -- people are literally dangerous if you disagree with them. If you mention that animals are not as important as people, well, words do not exist in the Engish language to describe you.


79 posted on 09/23/2005 8:24:53 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Another AMEN.


80 posted on 09/23/2005 8:25:18 AM PDT by bonfire (dwindler)
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