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Schumer is no match for Roberts
Chicago Sun Times ^ | September 19, 2005 | ROBERT NOVAK

Posted on 09/27/2005 11:41:10 PM PDT by Fun Bob

Democratic Senators Charles Schumer of New York and Dianne Feinstein of California had tried to hide their frustration while questioning Judge John G. Roberts Jr. for the second time last week. But once the confirmation hearing ended, they betrayed their emotions in the confines of a Russell Senate Office Building elevator, oblivious to who was overhearing them. The two senators bitterly complained that Roberts simply was not answering their questions.

Feinstein sounded like a sympathetic sidekick, but this was more serious for Schumer -- a crushing defeat in his campaign to establish a new standard for confirmation of Supreme Court nominees. Ever since President Bush's election, Schumer has been planning how to force nominees to take broad policy positions. In his elevator conversation with Feinstein, Schumer grumbled that Roberts was getting away with incorrectly claiming he was following precedent set by liberal Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg in her confirmation hearing (though in private conversation last week, Ginsburg disagreed with Schumer).

Schumer may be the Senate Judiciary Committee's best lawyer, but Roberts is an even better one. "If this were a fight, the referee would have stopped it," Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham told me in assessing the Schumer vs. Roberts confrontation. Beyond their legal duel, the outcome should set a new standard for Supreme Court confirmations. It is unlikely any future nominee can be drawn into an inquest of their policy positions.

A relatively junior senator just beginning his second term, Schumer has been out front seeking to determine who will serve on the court. Four years ago, he propounded an issues test and has not deviated in assessing nominees for lower federal courts. He has been against confirmation of every Bush appointee with any significant opposition. He opposed cloture on all 16 nominees blocked by filibuster, and said "no" on all eight brought to a vote.

Sen. Edward Kennedy, who restrained himself from unleashing the invective hurled at Robert Bork two decades ago, was ineffective as he questioned Roberts on civil rights. Sen. Joseph Biden blustered into incoherence, railing against the nominee's calm. Schumer, in contrast, reflected years of planning as he told Roberts "the American people ... need to understand that your first-class education and your advantaged life will not blind you to the plight of those who need help." Schumer wanted Roberts to pledge support from the bench for "the environment, Americans' health and workers' civil rights."

Both Biden and Schumer would have turned judicial nominees into political candidates, who would then gain overwhelming support for confirmation by endorsing a liberal laundry list. Roberts responded to Biden that judges "decide cases according to the judicial process, not on the basis of promises made earlier to get elected or promises made earlier to get confirmed."

Roberts has won the argument. Law writer Stuart Taylor Jr., in an Aug. 1 Legal Times article, indicated he had changed his mind and now felt that if Democrats "ever succeed in forcing nominees to detail their views, it will not only corrupt the integrity and independence of new justices. It will also, perhaps, open the way for presidents to pack the court with people who have virtually pledged their votes on a long list of issues." Taylor cited the position by Laurence Silberman, a senior judge on the District of Columbia Circuit Court, that every case must be tried on its merits and weighed against the Constitution rather than decided on broad considerations of social philosophy. That is the standard put forth repeatedly by Roberts.

The Democrats have so hardened their posture that a unanimous Judiciary Committee vote by them against Roberts is probable. In the full Senate, the most that Roberts can hope for is probably eight Democrats, or 63 total votes.

Schumer said at the beginning of the hearing he would accept Roberts as a "mainstream conservative" but not an "ideologue." Is Roberts more of an ideologue than Justice Antonin Scalia, who was confirmed with 98 votes? Is Roberts more of an ideologue than former American Civil Liberties Union counsel Ginsburg, who got 96 votes? Chuck Schumer did not make his case.


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KEYWORDS: roberts; schumer; scotus
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1 posted on 09/27/2005 11:41:12 PM PDT by Fun Bob
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To: Fun Bob

schumer is no match for a canned ham.


2 posted on 09/27/2005 11:44:35 PM PDT by flashbunny (Do you believe in the Constitution only until it keeps the government from doing what you want?)
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To: Fun Bob
Chuck Schumer did not make his case.

Judge Roberts was awesome. I watched quite a bit of the proceedings, and to me, he consistently hit home runs, without getting flustered by the obvious attacks.

3 posted on 09/28/2005 12:01:49 AM PDT by easonc52
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To: Fun Bob

Ginsburg getting 96 votes is mind boggling.


4 posted on 09/28/2005 12:01:56 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper ("Don't Get Stuck On Stupid!" - Lieutenant General Russell "Ragin' Cajun" Honore)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

"Ginsburg getting 96 votes is mind boggling."

Isn't it, though? A mindless doctrinaire Marxist and hypocrite who never, ever practiced what she preached. But then, some animals are more equal than other animals.


5 posted on 09/28/2005 12:04:11 AM PDT by KamperKen
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To: Fun Bob
Schumer might be a match for this guy:

on second thought...

(steely)

6 posted on 09/28/2005 12:05:39 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Fortunately, the Bill of Rights doesn't include the word 'is'.)
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To: All

I've always thought that Ruth Bader Ginsburg being confirmed as a Justice to the Supreme Court is akin to seeing the chief counsel of the John Birch Society receiving the same honor. The fact that she got 96 votes amazes me to this day.


7 posted on 09/28/2005 12:08:00 AM PDT by BushMeister ("We are a nation that has a government - not the other way around." --Ronald Reagan)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
I guess the Republicans thought at that time that since they did the Democrats a favor, that, one day the Democrats would return the favor ( NOT !!! ) .
Never make decisions when you think you are doing the Democrats a favor, and expect that they would do the same for you one day, because, well ? a DEMOCRAT is a DEMORAT.
8 posted on 09/28/2005 12:09:00 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: Fun Bob

ping


9 posted on 09/28/2005 12:13:40 AM PDT by AnimalLover ( ((Are there special rules and regulations for the big guys?)))
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To: KamperKen; All
U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 103rd Congress - 1st Session - On the Nomination (ruth bader ginsburg to be an associate justice ) - August 3, 1993
10 posted on 09/28/2005 12:15:12 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper ("Don't Get Stuck On Stupid!" - Lieutenant General Russell "Ragin' Cajun" Honore)
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To: Fun Bob

I believe that this has already been posted here.


11 posted on 09/28/2005 12:17:29 AM PDT by de Buillion (Perspective: 1880 dead Heroes in 3 yr vs. 3589 abortions EVERY DAY , 1999, USA.)
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To: Fun Bob
"Beyond their legal duel, the outcome should set a new standard for Supreme Court confirmations. It is unlikely any future nominee can be drawn into an inquest of their policy positions.

Chuckie got his wish, then. A new standard has been established.

Fortunately for the future of this nation, though, the fact that he is obviously no match for Judge Roberts ensures that it isn't the stacked-deck-standard he sought in his diseased mind.

12 posted on 09/28/2005 12:19:14 AM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: Fun Bob

I have never seen Schumer vote for anything that indicated he had some morals.


13 posted on 09/28/2005 12:21:14 AM PDT by garylmoore (Homosexuality: Obviously unnatural, so obviously wrong.)
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To: Fun Bob
Roberts has won the argument. Law writer Stuart Taylor Jr., in an Aug. 1 Legal Times article, indicated he had changed his mind and now felt that if Democrats "ever succeed in forcing nominees to detail their views, it will not only corrupt the integrity and independence of new justices. It will also, perhaps, open the way for presidents to pack the court with people who have virtually pledged their votes on a long list of issues."

Demonrats thrive on corruption, so it's no wonder Chuckie tried to sell a vision of a SCOTUS as nothing more than a tool of leftists to use as they please.

Roberts strikes at the very heart of their scheme, and may well be remembered as one of the greatest for disabling rampant judicial activism most notably marked by decisions involving gay rights, the Pledge, and private property. The fact that he's soooo brilliant scares the living hell out of them, because only a man of his intellect can tear them apart at their very roots. It's going to be a thing of beauty to behold.

14 posted on 09/28/2005 12:35:17 AM PDT by Kryptonite
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To: Prophet in the wilderness
I tried to explain that to a liberal friend of mine at work one day.........I said listen the Republicans voted, what was it 99 or something in favor of that witch Ginsberg even though she was from the ACLU,wanted legal prostitution, believes a girl could be 10 or 11 and go get an abortion without a parents consent and the list goes on ......Listen I said that goes against virtually all Republican beliefs about how things should be and they they still voted for her cause they believed she would make a good judge. Thats all this should be about.........He shouted back ''Yes but progressives are taking the world forward while conservatives will take the court back a 100 years. Liberals can't let that happen. I argued'' conservatives ARE taking the courts forward,''.........buts thats the rub isn't it.Fundamentally these people feel they are doing the world good and we(the conservatives) are evil and backward in our thinking.......I hope the president picks a solid Conservative like Janice Rodgers Brown or Luttig and sticks it to these creeps!They make me sick!
15 posted on 09/28/2005 12:39:48 AM PDT by Bush gal in LA
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To: Bush gal in LA
Yes, The Liberals are taking the world forward alright, forward and father down the slippery slope of destruction.
Conservatives want America they way we use to remember America, not some 3 rd world dis pot country.
We want judges to interpret the law and constitution, not make up new laws on their own, and by pass " THE PEOPLE " .
16 posted on 09/28/2005 12:45:49 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: Bush gal in LA
My guess is ? it is going to be Luttig, but, if I am wrong, I am wrong.
I see President Bush and his staff going the road as they did with John Roberts, trow a few names out their to get the pigs ( the MSM and the Liberals ) yapping and gossiping, and BINGO, catch them all by surprise.
17 posted on 09/28/2005 12:53:25 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness
opps, sorry about the typo.....

Correction:

Yes, the Liberals are taking the world forward alright,,, forward and farther down the road of the slippery slope of destruction.
18 posted on 09/28/2005 12:57:57 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: Fun Bob
"...The Democrats have so hardened their posture that a unanimous Judiciary Committee vote by them against Roberts is probable. In the full Senate, the most that Roberts can hope for is probably eight Democrats, or 63 total votes. Schumer said at the beginning of the hearing he would accept Roberts as a "mainstream conservative" but not an "ideologue." Is Roberts more of an ideologue than Justice Antonin Scalia, who was confirmed with 98 votes? Is Roberts more of an ideologue than former American Civil Liberties Union counsel Ginsburg, who got 96 votes? Chuck Schumer did not make his case..."

Good catch, Bob!

And Kennedrunk shouldn't even get a vote..............FRegards

19 posted on 09/28/2005 1:03:16 AM PDT by gonzo (K-Y Jelly???.........Nope! I can't think of any other use for it!............)
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To: Steely Tom
Dang! Good to see ya, Tom! we're lost in a sea of Freepers now, but that's a good thing! Take care, pal..........FRegards


20 posted on 09/28/2005 1:55:52 AM PDT by gonzo (K-Y Jelly???.........Nope! I can't think of any other use for it!............)
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