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This is easy - COWARD!! He needs a BCD and time in the brig!
1 posted on 09/29/2005 11:13:39 AM PDT by bkwells
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Surf the link.
Hi status as CO is not going to hold water. He must claim that status up front when "DRAFTED".

http://www.sss.gov/FSconsobj.htm


40 posted on 09/29/2005 11:45:40 AM PDT by grayforkbeard (Precision weapons win battles. Bombing the whole country flat wins wars)
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Judge Lieutenant Commander Klant said to the court: "I think the government has successfully proved that any seaman recruit has reasonable cause to believe that the wars in Yugoslavia, Afghanistan and Iraq were illegal."

This is a typical problem with the JAG corps in the Navy. They are way too easy on criminals like this one. I had an airman that was lazy, a thief, assaulted host country women that were dumb enough to date him. We tried to get an OTH on the guy, but the JAG folks wouldn't go for it. After spending literally hundreds of man hours on pushing the case the JAG gave him a general discharge.

Funny thing was that after being discharged he immediately came back to Japan, ran out of money, and started robbing ATM customers and cab drivers. Now he is doing hard time in a Japanese prison.

43 posted on 09/29/2005 11:48:59 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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I'd have a hell of a lot more sympathy for him if he hadn't seemingly done his best to become a celebrity.


44 posted on 09/29/2005 11:49:19 AM PDT by English Nationalist
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He needs to spend many years in the brig, thus keeping him off the speakers' circuit.

Actually, anybody who signs their name on the dotted line, raises their right hand, and then decides to back out deserves execution, especially in a time of war.

And don't give me the old "it's not a declared war" nonsense. This is the 21st century. We have been attacked, and we are at war. Desert in a time of war and suffer the consequences. The same punishment should apply to those civilians who try to demoralize our troops by praising and aiding our enemies.


45 posted on 09/29/2005 11:49:44 AM PDT by billnaz (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand?)
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Two things: He is a volunteer who readily participated in reaping the benefits of military training, but when he was asked for something in return, he bolted. That is problematic.

Second, even if he does have moral objections to this, he MUST understand that taking that stand will come with severe consequences. The left has so screwed up this whole idea of conscientious objection.

Conscientious objection (in any situation) is not a method of dodging responsibility for, or consequences of, a decision, a get out of jail free card if it were.

It is a responsible method of objection that says—I accept the consequences of my choice because I would rather face punishment than to violate my conscience. A true conscientious objector would never, ever try to duck the punishment or the responsibility.
46 posted on 09/29/2005 11:51:20 AM PDT by pollyannaish
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Navy Coward or Conscientious Objector?

This ole Salt would call him "Shark Bait"


48 posted on 09/29/2005 11:51:39 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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He's just a confused kid, 10 years hard labor will help him sort things out.


49 posted on 09/29/2005 11:52:01 AM PDT by conservativewasp (Liberals lie for sport and hate their country. Islam is a terrorist organization.)
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"I know other people are feeling the same way I am, and I'm hoping more people will stand up," he said. "They can't throw us all in jail."

Wanna bet?

51 posted on 09/29/2005 11:57:35 AM PDT by Exeter (If Life gives you lemons, just shut up and eat the damn lemons!)
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By missing movement, he put an extra burden on his fellow shipmates, since they have to fill his void.

Funny how conscientious objectors pop out of the woodwork only in time of war.

Retired USN, glad I served, and I'll do it again if I ever could.


52 posted on 09/29/2005 11:59:29 AM PDT by stbdside
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"He said he was young and naive when he joined the Navy and "never imagined, in a million years, we would go to war with somebody who had done nothing to us."

He thought all those warships and aircraft delivered blankets and sandwiches to beach parties around the world???

55 posted on 09/29/2005 12:13:22 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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Shoot him. Make his execution a training video all recruits are required to view during Basic Training. Thus, he WILL serve his country, even after he becomes worm food.


56 posted on 09/29/2005 12:21:16 PM PDT by 95 Bravo ("Freedom is not free.")
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"They can't throw us all in jail."

I hope he's wrong.

57 posted on 09/29/2005 12:21:35 PM PDT by Hardastarboard
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Okay, military people, fill me in here. I thought a conscientious objector was someone who was philosophically or morally opposed to killing, but who served in a combat capacity that didn't require the carrying of a weapon, such as being as a medic. I also thought that there were actual steps that had to be taken to receive that status.

If this guy is seeking a discharge, then where's the conscientious part and how the hell can he claim that status?


58 posted on 09/29/2005 12:39:25 PM PDT by MonaMars
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Others have already said it: Conscientious Objector status is for draftees, not volunteers. A true C.O. wouldn't volunteer in the first place.

It's outrageous that somebody would volunteer for military pay, benefits, and training, then pretend he didn't know what he was getting into.


60 posted on 09/29/2005 12:58:03 PM PDT by 04-Bravo
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Hang 'em High.

The fact that he has a media campaign says a lot-- it says he's after his 15. If he's a c-objector, then why the HECK did he sign up for the military? He's a fraud and a pub whore.

I'm glad he's not "fighting" because how many of his fellow soldiers would he get killed?
61 posted on 09/29/2005 1:20:38 PM PDT by ElderEdda
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"I'm going to throw my ID in the water and say that I'm no longer part of the military ..."

Yeah, right, I'm sure the court martial board will agree with you.

63 posted on 09/29/2005 1:33:09 PM PDT by JoeGar
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My son is in the Navy & I hope he doesn't see this crap~ I can honestly say I despise the MSM
I don't care if that does make me childish
Nanner Nanner Boo Boo lol
64 posted on 09/29/2005 1:35:28 PM PDT by Cindy_Cin
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as petronski says, he's a deserter. he should be thrown in jail. or, an even more fun thing, shoot or hang him.


65 posted on 09/29/2005 1:39:36 PM PDT by DTwistedSisterS
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I want to just grab this little $#!+ by the collar and slap some sense into him.


66 posted on 09/29/2005 1:49:02 PM PDT by Junior (Some drink to silence the voices in their heads. I drink to understand them.)
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Coward! Plain and simple.


68 posted on 09/29/2005 1:57:17 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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