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Debate on al Qaida's losses in Iraq
World Defense Review ^ | September 29, 2005 | Walid Phares

Posted on 09/30/2005 4:31:40 AM PDT by Sailor6468

An interesting Newsweek story this week – that references CT Blog among its sources – claims scoring a point against what it paints as a “questionable” Bush administration portrayal of Abu Azzam.

In short, the authors of the article, Michael Isikoff and Mark Hosenball claim the Administration’s leaders aggrandized the real importance of the killed al Qaida commander basing their conclusion on a number of non-identified U.S. counter-terrorism officials and a report posted by our colleague Evan Kohlman on the blog. The “charge” by Newsweek is about the hierarchy of the man. Was he or was he not the “number two” of abu Mussab? In fact, the article’s real problem is in semantics.

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1 posted on 09/30/2005 4:31:51 AM PDT by Sailor6468
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To: Sailor6468
This guy was on CENTCOM's most wanted list for months. That is not at question.

Was he the number 2 man or ranked somewhere else? Who cares? He needed killing and that's been accomplished.

2 posted on 09/30/2005 4:36:50 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (John 6: 51-58)
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To: Straight Vermonter

"He needed killing and that's been accomplished."

Actually, what he needed was a hug. (j/k)


3 posted on 09/30/2005 4:40:35 AM PDT by Altair333 (Stop illegal immigration: George Allen in 2008)
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To: Sailor6468

already posted at: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1493976/posts


4 posted on 09/30/2005 4:40:51 AM PDT by Northern Alliance
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To: Altair333

I actually laughed out loud on that one!


5 posted on 09/30/2005 4:43:14 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (John 6: 51-58)
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To: Sailor6468

Michael Isikoff = Gives me the creeps, and overrated as a writer.


6 posted on 09/30/2005 4:49:13 AM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: Straight Vermonter

People in Iraq knew he was number two before the Left-wing MSM could spin him as a non-number two. That knowledge had nothing to do with the administration.


7 posted on 09/30/2005 5:52:37 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (MSM: de facto allies of America's enemies.)
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To: elhombrelibre

If he had narrowly escaped, the lefties would be screaming about how Bush failed to capture this incredibly important Al Qaida leader.


8 posted on 09/30/2005 6:26:14 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning.)
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To: Sailor6468
More comfort for the enemy from al-Ja-Newsweek.

Do we need any more evidence that we have a fifth-column within?

Our boys in Iraq have enough to put up with without having to endure this propping up of those who would kill them.

9 posted on 09/30/2005 6:40:40 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

Agreed. The Left-wing MSM is more interested in spinning the news for their own domestic agenda than to telling the obvious truth. This was a great take down. Nothing they can say can diminish it. When we get Zarquai, they'll figure out a way to say it's no biggie. I remember when it seemed like we might get bin Laden and they began to report that even if we did terror would continue. They'll never say anything to discourage the terrorists or to give them the impression we're in it for the long haul. They are practically cheerleaders for America's enemies. It's totally illiberal, but it serves their desire to get at Bush.


10 posted on 09/30/2005 8:15:38 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (MSM: de facto allies of America's enemies.)
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To: Sailor6468

LMAO!!! I love how when there's good news from Iraq, the likes of Newsweek, one of the most eggregiously left wing rags in America today, immediately sets out to somehow diminish it or explain it away. They just can't stand that the US might have ANY success there. Gawd, these people will do ANYTHING to see America lose in Iraq. They are the rankest of traitors. Isakopf doesn't know sh*t about the situation in Iraq. I will stick with the officers on the scene who know of Azzam's stature and what he meant to Al Qaeda there more than some Washington hack like Isakof. Interesting that Isakoff set out to prove Al Qaeda's own propaganda that Azzam wasn't really that important.

But since Newsweek is suddenly so concerned about accuracy in reporting from Iraq, why don't they point out that the actual number of KIA in Iraq is more like 1500, not the 1900+ they like to report. They lump in over 400 deaths from accidents and illness to battle body counts. But you won't see any concern for accuracy when it comes to reporting the bad news from Iraq from these vile media pukes.


11 posted on 09/30/2005 8:38:20 AM PDT by MikeA
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To: Sailor6468

Michael Isikoff

nuf said for me to ignore anything NewsWEAK says.


12 posted on 09/30/2005 8:41:54 AM PDT by BushisTheMan
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“The real question is whether taking any one figure out will really have an appreciable impact on an insurgency that seems to have shown a remarkable resiliency. For nearly two years now, U.S. officials have touted previous arrests or captures, most notably that of toppled leader Saddam Hussein in December 2003, as developments that would cripple the insurgency.”

Isn't this an amazing thing for liberals and the media (same thing) to say when they CONSTANTLY beat Bush over the head over "Where's Osama?" and "Why hasn't Bush gotten Osama?" as if getting Bin Laden would end Al Qaeda and the war on terror? Yet when the administration touts a high-level capture in Iraq, the media howls that the administration is somehow trying to mislead people into thinking the war is being wrapped up. Good gawd these media manure sacks are an amazing gaggle of hypocrites. They'll run over their own rhetoric and logic to attack this president! Does ANYONE still believe we have anything like a free or fair media in this country??


13 posted on 09/30/2005 8:48:36 AM PDT by MikeA
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To: Altair333
Actually, what he needed was a hug. (j/k)

For a minute, I thought your "J/K" stood for John Kerry. :-)

14 posted on 09/30/2005 9:07:52 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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