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To: clyffehall; BykrBayb; floriduh voter
Still at the word games, I see.

Well, that settles that. You are not a college kid but are older, enough so youth can be ruled out as excuse for naive approach and there goes your defense.

You know, in church we only give the side of the Lord and do not give equal time to His opposition. Here, the issues are already well hashed out and established, as facts and truths counter to the dark side, those who value life against those who favor the contrary.

You bring your secondhand arguments to real eyewitness on the scene, who know the fine family of Schindlers for who they are, outstanding Christians, as opposed to your derisive statements echoing only what others said. Many of us have seen firsthand the evil of those who wanted Terri murdered. We have seen actual documents and we know better. You are simply following the footsteps of those who have tried detractions in the past.

You have shown no issues, merely rehashed that which has been disproven before, your loud protest to the contrary notwithstanding. What you have shown by appearing out of nowhere and focusing only on the dark side of the Terri atrocity is that you have an agenda. You are gradually exposing it. Thank you for that.

We have plenty of issues to discuss, living wills, judicial tyranny, and topics of interest to conservatives on this forum, but you are here to try to revive the old arguments long since exposed for what they are.

To steal an old phrase, "Who you are speaks so loudly we cannot hear who you say you are".

Tell us more about your motive for jumping in. Who or what sent you here?

Thanks for the bumps. I will read all your posts and will gladly respond.

490 posted on 10/24/2005 11:37:24 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jesu ufam tobie..Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser
Sir:

Despite your continued (though groundless) animosity, I will try to respond to you civilly.

Still at the word games, I see.


Perhaps you would enlighten me as to what it is in my post that you consider "word games". I have endeavoured to be as clear as possible. I have said plainly what I am about. If you will tell me which part is puzzling you, I will try to be more clear.

You know, in church we only give the side of the Lord and do not give equal time to His opposition. Here, the issues are already well hashed out and established, as facts and truths counter to the dark side, those who value life against those who favor the contrary.


Are you saying, then, that you do not wish to discuss the matter further with anyone who holds a different opinion than yourself? If all you desire is to join in a chorus of others who echo your own position, please say so plainly, and I will respect that and direct my comments to others. (And really, now--"the dark side"? :^D You don't live in a comic book, do you? LOL)

You bring your secondhand arguments to real eyewitness on the scene, who know the fine family of Schindlers for who they are, outstanding Christians, as opposed to your derisive statements echoing only what others said. Many of us have seen firsthand the evil of those who wanted Terri murdered. We have seen actual documents and we know better. You are simply following the footsteps of those who have tried detractions in the past.


While you are certainly entitled to your opinion of the Schindlers, I am certainly not required to agree with you! I am sure it is true that others have made the same arguments I am making; that doesn't lessen their validity or the earnestness with which they are offered. Your arguments are scarcely unique, save in the bitterness with which they are made. Yet I am still willing to discuss with you how you came to this position.

I do not see how your having harassed people outside of a hospice facility gives your opinion more credibility than mine. And if all you are getting from my posts is that I am "trying detractions" (detracting what? from whom?), then why bother responding to me?

You have shown no issues, merely rehashed that which has been disproven before, your loud protest to the contrary notwithstanding. What you have shown by appearing out of nowhere and focusing only on the dark side of the Terri atrocity is that you have an agenda. You are gradually exposing it. Thank you for that.


Something's having been discussed before does not keep it from being an issue. I disagree that the issues I have raised have been disproven; disputed, yes; disproven, no

. I suppose most people when they first begin posting can be said to have appeared out of nowhere, but that's really rather nonsensical, isn't it? I mean, before one makes one's first post, one has not been on the board. If one is posting on the board, one has already made that first post. Round and round you go, but it doesn't make any more sense. As for focussing only on "the dark side" (ooo, comic book land again :^D ), I, like everyone else here, am focussing on my own viewpoint. I leave others to state their own positions, which they do, without focussing on mine. See how that works? You say your piece, I say my piece, and we compare notes. No one is compelled to make another person's argument for them.

You seem to be obsessed with the word "agenda", and since word games are another of your favorite topics, I'll play along on this one. Here's my agenda: I want to discuss these issues and find out how you came to believe the things you do, and why there is such an emotional tinge to your words. How was that? Did I play right? :^D

We have plenty of issues to discuss, living wills, judicial tyranny, and topics of interest to conservatives on this forum, but you are here to try to revive the old arguments long since exposed for what they are.


Great! Let's' discuss the topics! (Now where have I heard that before?)

To steal an old phrase, "Who you are speaks so loudly we cannot hear who you say you are". Tell us more about your motive for jumping in. Who or what sent you here? Thanks for the bumps. I will read all your posts and will gladly respond.


Since I am exactly who I say I am, I imagine you hear me pretty clearly. I don't know how much more plainly I can say why I joined the discussion here. Why does it matter to you so much?

And, if you would be so kind, please explain what's the deal with "bumps"? Why is that important to you? Do you get a prize or something for a certain number of "bumps"? Is there any way I can help you further?

Peace to you,
Clyffe
491 posted on 10/24/2005 2:06:12 PM PDT by clyffehall (Some people claim that there's a woman to blame ... J. Buffett)
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