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Threat Matrix: Daily Terror Threat - Thread Thirty-One

Posted on 10/01/2005 8:27:27 AM PDT by nwctwx

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To: nw_arizona_granny

Ebola's Dogged Enemies
Team of Fort Detrick Scientists Labored for Years to Develop Vaccine
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That was an excellent article.

A thank you to the heroes!


681 posted on 10/04/2005 6:22:48 AM PDT by Velveeta
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To: jer33 3

Noted, thanks.


682 posted on 10/04/2005 6:33:20 AM PDT by Velveeta
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To: Rushmore Rocks; angcat; KylaStarr; MamaDearest; watchwoman; All

PING

Another odd smell incident, in South Dakota this time.

So we have LA, Seattle, DC, SD, Dallas.

Are ther others?? Probably should keep these in one link. I don't have the time today to go back and find them.


683 posted on 10/04/2005 6:39:34 AM PDT by WestCoastGal (That Dale Jr., he's a heckuva drafter," He's not the mailman's kid that's for sure"!!)
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To: MamaDearest
"It's just a coincidence Ernest. So is the fact that the Pakistani roommate is missing. I'll bet he's just heartbroken to lose his roomie. He's probably off somewhere grieving as we post tonight, or perhaps he's looking for a new vest, a very special vest, one suited for appearances at crowded social events - you know, THAT kind of vest."

Hopefully he can go BOOM by himelf as well.

I haven't heard one thing re: muslim/islam connection on the MSM, has anyone?

684 posted on 10/04/2005 6:42:16 AM PDT by WestCoastGal (That Dale Jr., he's a heckuva drafter," He's not the mailman's kid that's for sure"!!)
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Father Says OU Bomber Wasn't Politically Motivated

NORMAN, Okla. (AP) -- The father of a University of Oklahoma student who died when an explosive device he was carrying detonated says his son's actions weren't politically motivated.

Joel Henry Hinrichs III died Saturday when the device attached to his body exploded about 8 PM while he sat on a bench outside George Lynn Cross Hall.

The blast could be heard inside the nearby Gaylord Family-Oklahoma Memorial Stadium where more then 80,000 people were watching the OU-Kansas State game.

Hinrichs' father -- Joel Hinrichs Junior -- says he's confident his son didn't intend to harm anyone and wasn't motivated by a political agenda.

Hinrichs says his son had an interest in explosives and says FBI agents told him hydrogen peroxide was used to construct the bomb.

Meanwhile, those who were evacuated from the apartment complex where Hinrichs lived were allowed to return home after bomb squad members performed controlled explosions of items connected to the case.

http://www.kotv.com/main/home/stories.asp?whichpage=1&id=91267


685 posted on 10/04/2005 6:50:58 AM PDT by freeperfromnj
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US to deport 225 Pakistanis

As many as 225 Pakistanis who were residing illegally in the US were arrested from various cities and will be deported to Pakistan, Online news agency reported Tuesday.
According to a private TV channel, the 225 deportees will be flown to Islamabad on a special plane within the next 36 hours.

Most of the arrested Pakistanis had been residing illegally in the US for the last many months while others had violated immigration laws and were arrested during last two weeks.

http://news.webindia123.com/news/showdetails.asp?id=128745&cat=World


686 posted on 10/04/2005 7:12:46 AM PDT by Velveeta
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Topeka, Kansas

Explosion at School


An explosive device goes off at an area high school Monday. The small device exploded in a trash can at Topeka High School before 1:30 Monday afternoon.

Law officials were called out to investigate, and the Topeka Bomb Squad found two other suspicious devices. USD 501 spokesperson, Brad Stauffer says, "They were disabeled and are being taken back to the State Fire Marshall for additional study."

No one was inured. Southwest 10th street was shut down during the investigation.
http://www.wibw.com/home/headlines/1879937.html


687 posted on 10/04/2005 7:15:54 AM PDT by Velveeta
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To: nwctwx
I have a hard time believing many of these groups are completely independent at this point.

Stratigically, they are working together after a fashion. However, I don't think OBL called the strike, but JI after their own objectives in the area.

The Bali bombings were similar to London in their design, and simplicity. They are proving they don't need planes to cause a lot of havoc.

An observation that others have made too. I think another factor is the ability to keep the operation off the radar screen longer due to the less preparation and smaller devices/delivery methods.

688 posted on 10/04/2005 7:41:36 AM PDT by Godzilla (I'm not suffering from insanity, I'm actually enjoying it.)
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To: Cindy
"Oklahoma bomber had jihad material Documents found in apartment of student who blew himself up"

So far the primary source WND is citing is from the unspeakable site.

Waiting to hear from a separate, independent source. But it is still disturbing.

689 posted on 10/04/2005 7:54:59 AM PDT by Godzilla (I'm not suffering from insanity, I'm actually enjoying it.)
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To: Velveeta; Cindy; All

http://www.grandforks.com/mld/grandforks/news/state/12810795.htm

Posted on Tue, Oct. 04, 2005

Associated Press

CASSELTON, N.D. - At least 17 cars of a BNSF Railway train went off the tracks northwest of this Cass County town, but no one was hurt.

Crews were trying to salvage as much of the spilled grain as they could after the accident around 12:30 p.m. Monday.

The railroad said the cause of the wreck was not immediately determined. Officials expected the track to reopen sometime Tuesday.

The grain was being hauled from Finley to Illinois


690 posted on 10/04/2005 8:11:22 AM PDT by jer33 3
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To: appalachian_dweller
Conflicting reports from this link to the link to the BLOG you put up yesterday. Some reports have a massive blast that shakes windows a mile away, others have virtually zero damage to windows in the vicinity or trees or even the sidewalk under the deceased. Yes SOME windows broken but others just a little further away are untouched. Yet other reports have the shockwave shaking folks windows a mile away. Yet, it appears only the bench was damaged. What's with that, if he's going to enter a stadium full of people he sits to ... do...what? Maybe he's waiting for other bombers and they all enter in a coordinated manner? Maybe an errant cell phone or garage door opener signal sets it off? Possible.
691 posted on 10/04/2005 8:25:01 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: nw_arizona_granny; All

There was a bad truck accident here in Nashville this past Saturday evening -- a semi hit another truck, causing them both to plow through the median into oncoming traffic, killing 2 at the scene in the ensuing fire, and injuring 10 others, 2 critically. The driver of the first semi fled the scene, only to return an hour later.

Here's the kicker: I saw live footage from the scene of the accident on the evening news, and the truck which was hit was a tanker; 2 of my drivers at work last night verified this. When I looked for a link to post here, our local media is saying the second truck was transporting corn starch. What did our local lame-stream media have to gain by changing the lading of the second truck?


692 posted on 10/04/2005 8:25:57 AM PDT by liberallyconservative (A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both. - Eisenhower)
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To: Donna Lee Nardo; cowdog77

No, but it is worthy of me...


693 posted on 10/04/2005 8:27:45 AM PDT by null and void (Up to maximum individual freedom consistent with order, or down to the ant heap of totalitarianism)
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To: Godzilla
Hi Godzilla,

>> the primary source WND is citing is from the unspeakable site <<

Haven't heard anything out WMD from the OU incident. As for as the 'unspeakable site'. Since they are pandering to get hits (it's a .com), they will undoubtedly sensationalize this to make $$$.

Damage reports indicate a small to medium sized device rather than the 'huge' detonation first reported. I'm also forming this OPNION that is was a lone nutcase rather than the organized, synchronized, multiple AQ cell attack we've been hearing about/expecting.

While I am somewhat relieved that the facts emerging from this incident seem to indicate a lone nutcase, I'll be staying at my present RED alert level for the time being.
694 posted on 10/04/2005 8:35:16 AM PDT by appalachian_dweller (Get Prepared. Stay Prepared. See my FR Homepage for a list of actions and supplies.)
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To: appalachian_dweller
Haven't heard anything out WMD from the OU incident.

World Net Daily is making this their top story today.

695 posted on 10/04/2005 8:40:54 AM PDT by Godzilla (I'm not suffering from insanity, I'm actually enjoying it.)
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To: Godzilla
Oh. I got confused: WMD as opposed to WND.

My bad.
696 posted on 10/04/2005 9:01:30 AM PDT by appalachian_dweller (Get Prepared. Stay Prepared. See my FR Homepage for a list of actions and supplies.)
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To: All

This is snipped from a Criminal Justice Lecture by OConner, on Counter Terrorism.

If you want to know more about criminal justice and how to work with the facts, there is good information on this website, I have never had the time to read all the lectures and chase all the links and had forgotten it, but it turned up in my first newsletter, I thought the #1, was of interest as to the reasons the media does not publish all the facts about incidents.

The last link, will take you to the index.
granny
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http://faculty.ncwc.edu/TOConnor/427/427lect17.htm


CONTROVERSIES

There's no shortage of recommendations for what to do
about terrorism. One of the most consistent themes in the
literature is the principle that there should be no bargaining
with terrorists. For most nations, the standard policy is no
concessions. This position has always been strongly advocated
by the law enforcement community, primarily because of
reasoning that bargaining invites repeated attacks (Elliott and
Gibson 1978). Another common recommendation, often made
by criminologists, is that terrorism should be processed by the
criminal justice system the same way as other crimes
(Crelinsten et al. 1978). The argument here is really that
special squads, units, and strike forces cause more problems
than they solve. Others in criminal justice argue for global
police forces, international courts, and using anti-terrorist
ideology to rebuild coalition consensus (OConnor 1994).
Current controversies involve to what extent anti-terrorism
efforts by political democracies corrupt those democracies
because such efforts are always politically motivated and
impact civil liberties (Turk 1982; Ross 2000). The following
points are lessons from those controversies.

POINT #1: Some of the things that best shape a response to
terrorism are derived from simply knowing the functions of
terrorism. This is one of the approaches first suggested by
Brian Jenkins of the RAND think tank. Since one of the
functions of terrorism (at least the revolutionary type) is to
provoke government overreaction, anything the government
can do to keep itself from overreacting will thwart the
terrorists' objectives. Since another function is to gain control
of the media, anything voluntary or involuntary on the part of
the media which stifles exposure also stifles terrorism.
Bombings make the best pictures, so the more media-driven
the terrorists, the more likely bombings will be the mode of
attack. Another common function or demand is the release of
political prisoners, and this is almost never a true objective.
The real objective is politicization of all prisoners, the winning
over of new recruits among the prison population. And finally,
the best strategy may be one of going after the financial
supporters of terrorism, not the terrorists themselves. Ideology
may be able to sustain them, but not for long once the money
runs dry. It's only with narcoterrorism that this "dry well"
strategy fails, since the drug market doesn't respond to simple
supply-demand forces.

POINT #2: The other thing about terrorism (or at least
quasi-terrorism and the more lunatic fanatics) is that they are
imitators, not innovators. That is, their crimes are copycat or
cyclical. The skyjacking phenomenon of the 70s was an
excellent example of this, where terrorists always waited until
some other group made the first move, and then they "jumped
on the bandwagon." Most of the them do this because they are
sorely trying to imitate military strategy; others do it because
of standardized paramilitary training or textbook lessons in
guerilla tactics; and still others do it to throw off suspicion from
themselves. Anyway, the cyclic pattern is quite predictable,
and in general, conforms to a Wave-Crest-Plateau pattern.



POINT #3: Although it's inevitable that the first few
hostages may die, a thing called the Stockholm Syndrome
works in the favor of anti-terrorist forces. The longer the
hostages stay alive, the less likelihood harm will come to the
hostages. With this syndrome, the hostages come to think of
their captors as protecting them from the police and soon start
to identify with their captors. The captors themselves start to
develop a parent/child relationship with their hostages. Other
syndromes include the Penelope Syndrome, where women find
violent criminals sexually attractive. Hostage negotiation and
rescue are perhaps the most complicated type of anti-terrorist
operation.

POINT #4: In assessing the threat of terrorism (in lieu of
information on group skills and capabilities), it's important to
concentrate on counting the number of incidents. Do not count
the number of victims, nor the value of harm. It's hard to do
this especially after some extraordinary incident in which many
people have died, but the only true comparison is the number
of attacks since terrorists often have no idea themselves about
how many victims will be killed by their actions. Nationalist
groups tend to seek a high number of fatalities while
revolutionary groups tend to seek fewer deaths and more
wounds or injuries. Splinter or spin-off groups seem more
interested in death counts and fatalities. The point is that no
matter how many victims are targeted, the group is only a
threat via its number of attacks as a percent of total activity.

POINT #5: Do count the number of victims saved by any
preventive action. If you manage through some leverage to
get the terrorist leader to stop things with a cease-fire
agreement, regardless of whether further negotiation follows
or not, it will significantly help your agency and your career if
you have calculated how many lives you've saved, and can
report this information to policymakers. Everyone in a
leadership position wins by a cease-fire. The terrorist leader
looks good; your leaders look good; and if the experts that say
terrorist leaders have low self-esteem are right, it should be an
easy job to feed their egos and get leverage on them through
negotiation. After the cease-fire, it's important to also
measure the resumed level of violence and compare it to
pre-cease-fire levels. Does the violence resume at a higher or
lower level? It may be that your short-term (e.g., 30-day)
truce resulted in a 16% short-term reduction in violence (e.g.,
6 months), but in the long-run, you've instigated a more
heinous pattern of violence.

POINT #6: Giving into terrorist demands for political change
only changes the pattern of violence, not the violence itself.
Economic and political reforms aimed at helping the group's
ethnic or religious group and resolving its grievances will win
over some supporters among the general population, but in the
long-run, will create new problems and a new set of grievances
over the precise implementation of policy and the degree of
power sharing. A much better strategy is to initiate economic
and political reforms for all the people of a nation. Economic
development solutions have worked in Ireland, Uruguay, and
Italy.

POINT #7: The thing that works best is reduction of recruits,
supplies, and support. You've got to reduce the number of
active trainee members of the terrorist organization. Capture
and imprisonment works (it's helped to keep Spain fairly
terrorism-free), as well as preemptive strikes against training
camps. The number of terrorists captured or killed should be
counted, and this can be put as the denominator in a fraction
with the number of government security forces killed in the
numerator. You've also got to keep weapons, ammo, and
supplies out of the hands of terrorists. Destruction of their
"stash" houses is the best preemptive strategy. Unfortunately,
many religious terrorist groups operate under the cover of
religion and it doesn't look good to blow up religious buildings.
Whenever a dragnet or raid takes place, the number of
weapons found should be counted. Finally, cutting off support
should be done with precision and not indiscriminately. Too
often, governments are willing to engage in "collective
punishments" against all (suspected) aliens, all unfriendly
foreign powers, and even its own citizens, in what are all only
symbolic efforts with no discernable short-term or long-term
effect. A more precise focus would go beyond identifying
support countries by name, and identify support by type,
amount, seasonality, and displacement. The latter two mean
that cutting off support at certain times of the year will have
more effect than a random cutoff, and that cutting off two or
more sources of support will be effective since groups may
simple displace or find new sources of support once old ones
dry up.

POINT #8: Things that don't work, or have questionable
value, include the notion that swift and harsh retaliation is the
best policy. This is a popular notion, but the degree of moral
certainty and justification empowering terrorism does not
respond to displays of overwhelming force or "lines drawn in
the sand." The standard doctrines of deterrence as
punishment (that punishment be swift, certain, and severe)
don't apply to terrorism. Justice has a longer timeline in this
context. If you're going to play the retaliation game right,
wait until things have cooled off and hit them when they least
expect it.

POINT #9: Terrorism doesn't respond to coalition-based
sanctions which are intended to express the international
community's disregard for them. Terrorists are people who
have long ago felt rejected by mainstream society. In fact,
their desire is often to be further rejected. If they are broken
up from receiving any psychological rewards or sympathy from
their social support groups, this strategy might work.
Terrorists long ago crossed the line of ethical and moral
restraint. Rebuilding this in all the diverse places of the world
is going to take some time.

POINT #10: Sharing of information and intelligence by
counterterrorism agents is essential. Unfortunately, turf
battles, credit claiming, stovepipes, and unnecessary secrecy
permeates the counterterrorist community. Agency
cooperation, however, also fragments the jurisdictional
grounds and/or changes the perceived level of threat, so there
tends to be more intelligence/policy disconnects. Law
enforcement agencies typically separate terrorists into
criminal, political, or mentally unstable categories, and this
may be too simplistic a classification. Terrorist behavior differs
from that of ordinary criminals. Criminal investigation
techniques must be modified to reflect these differences when
examining terrorist cases.


697 posted on 10/04/2005 9:05:08 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (Lavender Essential Oil, should be in first aid kit,uses: headaches, sinus,insect bites,sore muscles)
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Six dead of unknown illness in Canada

10/3/2005, 6:00 p.m. ET
By BETH DUFF-BROWN
The Associated Press

TORONTO (AP) — An unknown respiratory illness has struck an Ontario nursing home, killing six elderly patients — including two announced Monday — and infecting at least 79 residents, employees and visitors.....

http://www.nj.com/newsflash/health/index.ssf?/base/international-2/1128377349305901.xml&storylist=health


698 posted on 10/04/2005 9:09:42 AM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: nw_arizona_granny

#697 Excellent post Granny. Great info. Thanks!


699 posted on 10/04/2005 9:38:58 AM PDT by appalachian_dweller (Get Prepared. Stay Prepared. See my FR Homepage for a list of actions and supplies.)
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To: All

This is beginning to sound like a "when", not an "if" scenario.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051004/ts_nm/bush_birdflu_dc


700 posted on 10/04/2005 10:13:48 AM PDT by freeperfromnj
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