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University of Oklahoma Bomber -- New Information, Updated Links
Stingray: A blog for Salty Christians ^ | October 6, 2005 | Michael McCullough

Posted on 10/06/2005 11:48:06 AM PDT by DallasMike

The mainstream media has been largely silent on the Joel H. Hinrichs III, the University of Oklahoma student who blew himself up outide the stadium hosting a football game with Kansas State University on Saturday, October 2nd. We now know that Hinrichs tried several times to enter the stadium during the first half of the game:

One OU senior, Adam Smith, of Oklahoma City, however, said a stadium guard Saturday night told him "a guy had springed off" outside Gate 6 after refusing to let his backpack be searched.

The Enid News writes today:

There still seem to be more questions than answers regarding last Saturday's explosion outside the University of Oklahoma's Memorial Stadium. According to law enforcement, Joel Henry Hinrichs III acted alone and was depressed when he strapped an explosive to himself, sat down 100 yards away from a stadium filled with 84,000 people and blew himself up.

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Yet, this week we have learned Hinrichs attempted to buy a large quantity of ammonium nitrate at a local feed store. We have learned he had other explosive materials in his apartment, and we have learned his Muslim roommate and associates were held briefly by law enforcement immediately after the explosion.

The Oklahoma Daily is reporting that area Muslims did not see Hinrichs visiting a particular local mosque, as some earlier reported. However, news reports have Boren attending a mosque somewhere.

Sources confirmed Tuesday that triacetone triperoxide (TATP) was one of the critical ingredients in the bomb. It's called the "Mother of Satan" by Muslim extremists. The ingredient is not common in the United States but has been used in the past by Muslim extremists, including the case of Richard Reid, the infamous shoe-bomber, who was unable to detonate the material. The material was also used in the July mass transit bombings in London.  Other explosives were found at Hinrichs' apartment.

Blogger Mark Tapscott is reporting that authorities found 13 plastic bottles in Hinrichs' car trunk and small, round holes in a tree near the bomb site:

A Lincoln Town Car registered in the name of OU Suicide Bomber Joel Henry Hinrichs III remained as of 4:00 p.m. EST today in the parking lot of the apartment where he lived and a U.S. Department of Justice inventory of the contents found by law enforcement officials was visible on the seat, Tapscott's Copy Desk has learned.

Among the items listed on the inventory are "13 plastic bottles" in the trunk. The inventory did not note if there was anything in the bottles, their size or coloration. The blue Lincoln was registered in Oklahoma under Hinrichs' name in June of this year, according to state tag records. The expiration date on the tag was February 2006.

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Tapscott's Copy Desk has also learned that a tree near where Hinrichs' bomb detonated displays a number of small round holes and some areas of a metallic substance. The holes and substance are only on the side facing the bench on which Hinrichs was seated when the bomb detonated. The holes appear to be about the size of the head of 16 penny nail.

Gateway Pundit confirms the Oklahoma City Channel 5 News report  and Oklahoma City's News 9 that Hinrichs had inquired about purchasing large quantities of ammonium nitrate, which can be used to form an explosive. Hinrichs was apparently wearing vest with what appeared to be wires sticking out of it.

Dustin Ellison, the general manager of Ellison Feed & Seed on Porter Avenue, said that a man matching Hinrichs' description had come into the store days before he blew himself up on OU's campus. Ellison said the man asked about ammonium nitrate, but couldn't offer a reason why he needed it.

After the bombing, Ellison said he thought nothing of it. However, when he saw Hinrichs' photo, it triggered his memory.

Finally, Channel 5 news reports that Hinrichs' Pakistani Muslim roommate was detained briefly after the bombing:

NORMAN, Okla. -- The Pakistani roommate of a man authorities said died when he detonated an explosive device outside a crowded football stadium was led in handcuffs from a party shortly after Saturday's explosion, the head of an Islamic student group said.

 

Fazal M. Cheema, a finance major, shared a university-owned apartment with Joel Hinrichs III, 21, who died Saturday when a device attached to his body exploded as he sat on a bench outside George Lynn Cross Hall.

 

Cheema and three other Muslim students were led in handcuffs from a party by police after the blast, Ashraf Hussein, president of the Muslim Student Association, said Tuesday. They later were released.

It's time to put some pressure on the mainstream media to begin reporting these things. The more we learn about Hinrichs, the more questions we have about his beliefs and his behavior.


TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: domesticterrorism; freeperresources; hinrichs; jihad; nationalsecurity; normanbombing; okbombing; oubomber; oubombing; pajamapeoplerule; rop; suicidebombing
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1 posted on 10/06/2005 11:48:15 AM PDT by DallasMike
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To: DallasMike

Do you or does anyone know if the bomb had shrapnel or nails ect in it? That would confirm 100% that he wanted to take others with him. It is 99% confirmed already, but that would cinch it.


2 posted on 10/06/2005 11:52:25 AM PDT by JLS
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To: DallasMike
I think you misspoke here:

The Oklahoma Daily is reporting that area Muslims did not see Hinrichs visiting a particular local mosque, as some earlier reported. However, news reports have Boren attending a mosque somewhere.

I think you meant Hinrichs.....

3 posted on 10/06/2005 11:53:15 AM PDT by Bush_Democrat (Ex-Democrat since 2001)
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To: JLS

There have been reports of holes in a tree with metal looking stuff in them. The holes were supposedly the size of a 16 penny nail. (is that big?)


4 posted on 10/06/2005 11:54:18 AM PDT by duffthor (GO BIG RED!)
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To: DallasMike

"a stadium guard Saturday night told him "a guy had springed off" outside Gate 6 after refusing to let his backpack be searched."

I guess he meant "sprinted off?"

This stadium guard would seem to need some serious retraining, as to just what the purpose of his job might be, don't you think? Did he bother to report this? Was anyone made aware, outside of his gossiping after the fact?


5 posted on 10/06/2005 11:56:21 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: DallasMike; SJackson

BTTT


6 posted on 10/06/2005 11:57:28 AM PDT by Fiddlstix (Tagline Repair Service. Let us fix those broken Taglines. Inquire within(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: DallasMike

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like nothing new here except the pitch for visiting your blog.

Backhoe already started the same thing yesterday.

University of Oklahoma Bomber- Link Roundup
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1497194/posts


7 posted on 10/06/2005 11:57:46 AM PDT by airborne (My hero - my nephew! Sean is home! Thank you God!)
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To: DallasMike
"and we have learned his Muslim roommate and associates."

N'uff said. There are always these scumbag wierdos hovering around these mindless acts of violence.

8 posted on 10/06/2005 11:59:09 AM PDT by drt1
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To: DallasMike

Try this also - At the top of the page is a link of all OU Bombing threads.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=oubombing


9 posted on 10/06/2005 12:00:56 PM PDT by airborne (My hero - my nephew! Sean is home! Thank you God!)
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To: DallasMike
Thanks.

Other good links at orbusmax.com (the Northwest's version of Drudge) too.

10 posted on 10/06/2005 12:04:58 PM PDT by llevrok (Failure is the condiment that gives success its flavor. - Truman Capote)
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To: airborne

"it looks like nothing new here except the pitch for visiting your blog."

Even though FR is not a "blog," bloggers themselves seem to think FR is a blog, and hyperlinking blog to blog is just the way things work for them.

It does look a little self-promoting here, even though it's entirely normal for them in their sphere.


11 posted on 10/06/2005 12:05:24 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: airborne

While I don't care for the blog pimping, I like this format much better than Backhoe's. I can read this more clearly, andanything red is a link to the source.


12 posted on 10/06/2005 12:05:28 PM PDT by Yossarian (Remember: NOT ALL HEART ATTACKS HAVE TRADITIONAL SYMPTOMS)
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To: RegulatorCountry

College kids dont want their backpacks searched...

Thousands at every football game ...no doubt...

RE: Drugs and alcohol


13 posted on 10/06/2005 12:07:41 PM PDT by joesnuffy
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To: RegulatorCountry
Doesn't matter to me either way. Repetition does unnecessarily use bandwidth.

I'll go where the thread is over 1,110 posts and has people who were there at the stadium.

But that's just me.
14 posted on 10/06/2005 12:09:23 PM PDT by airborne (My hero - my nephew! Sean is home! Thank you God!)
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To: duffthor
The holes were supposedly the size of a 16 penny nail. (is that big?)

Yes, indeed! Almost twice the size of an 8 penny nail.

(Actually, about 4 1/2 " in length.)

15 posted on 10/06/2005 12:09:57 PM PDT by San Jacinto
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To: joesnuffy

"College kids dont want their backpacks searched..."

When they find out what a bullet they dodged, I'd imagine they will find a way to adapt. Maybe they could get their drunk on at a tailgate party before the game or something.

I don't like taking my shoes off in the airport, either, but it's the price I pay to fly these days.


16 posted on 10/06/2005 12:11:46 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: San Jacinto

That would be big. I am hardware illiterate. Upon completing the class, I immediately forgot everything from the mandatory 8th grade shop class.


17 posted on 10/06/2005 12:12:09 PM PDT by duffthor (GO BIG RED!)
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To: RegulatorCountry

"This stadium guard would seem to need some serious retraining, as to just what the purpose of his job might be, don't you think? Did he bother to report this? Was anyone made aware, outside of his gossiping after the fact?"

Absolutely. However, I expect this sort of thing may happen quite often when college kids realize that they can't sneak their booze past the guards in their backpacks.. (although you'd think most would know better by now since searches are done at all major stadium events AFAIK).


18 posted on 10/06/2005 12:12:24 PM PDT by Trampled by Lambs (I think, therefor I Zot!)
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To: Trampled by Lambs

I just called the ticket office in Lincoln to see if I can bring my camera/camera bag to the Husker game Saturday. There was no problem whatsoever with it as long as it wasn't video.

I bet I have to open my bag at the gate though...I hope I have to open my bag at least.


19 posted on 10/06/2005 12:15:30 PM PDT by duffthor (GO BIG RED!)
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To: Trampled by Lambs

"I expect this sort of thing may happen quite often when college kids realize that they can't sneak their booze past the guards in their backpacks"

If they were made aware that they would be chased down, detained and questioned, I think they'd catch on pretty quickly.

That would be a major buzz-kill, lol.


20 posted on 10/06/2005 12:18:37 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: DallasMike

From the Oklahoma Daily story >>>
“It’s considered very Middle Eastern, the way (Hinrichs) killed himself or tried to kill others,” (Barakat) said.


In the words of an old Dixie Chicks song, "There's your trouble..."


21 posted on 10/06/2005 12:21:58 PM PDT by WestTexasWend
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To: duffthor

"There was no problem whatsoever with it as long as it wasn't video."

Gotta protect those video publication rights. Priorities, ya know.


22 posted on 10/06/2005 12:26:19 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: joesnuffy

"College kids dont want their backpacks searched... "

I have tickets to a another Big 12 football team and backpacks are a big no no. Always have been at a football game.


23 posted on 10/06/2005 12:28:25 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Never bring a knife to a gun fight, or a Democrat to do serious work...)
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To: airborne
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like nothing new here
Nope, links have been updated to give mainstream media confirmations of several items that were unsourced yesterday. One example is the News 9 report that an off-duty police officer who had his suspicions raised by Hinrichs' behavior at the feed store
Joel "Joe" Henry Hinrichs III raised the suspicions of a Norman feed store manager and an off-duty Norman police officer Sept. 28 when he tried to buy the type of fertilizer used in the 1995 bombing of the Oklahoma City federal building.

The off-duty officer, who just happened to be in the store, was concerned enough about Hinrichs’ demeanor that he jotted down his license tag number and called the police department to check his identity, officials said.

"Normal protocol is for that officer to submit an intelligence report when he comes back on duty," said Lt. Tom Easley, spokesman for the Norman Police Department. "My understanding is that when the officer did return to work, he did submit one, but that was after the fact."

The bomb had already gone off.


24 posted on 10/06/2005 12:28:30 PM PDT by DallasMike
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To: Bush_Democrat

If that isn't a mistake, and Boren is attending a mosque -- we've got yet another problem in Norman and another dimension to this scenario.


25 posted on 10/06/2005 12:29:15 PM PDT by Maeve (Praying........)
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To: DallasMike

"The bomb had already gone off."

Well, add another one to my list of dawdlers who contributed to this ... no report was filed by this off-duty police officer until after the fact. I smell CYA.


26 posted on 10/06/2005 12:32:16 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: Bush_Democrat
Yep, it's Henrichs. Sorry.

Original reports had him attending a particular mosque with extremist ties. The understanding now is that he was attending a mosque, but not that particular one.

27 posted on 10/06/2005 12:32:42 PM PDT by DallasMike
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To: DallasMike

And the President didn't mention it during his speech this morning.

I guess it only matters to us in fly over country.


28 posted on 10/06/2005 12:33:02 PM PDT by airborne (My hero - my nephew! Sean is home! Thank you God!)
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To: RegulatorCountry
Well, add another one to my list of dawdlers who contributed to this ... no report was filed by this off-duty police officer until after the fact.

Yep, the off-duty cop noticed the odd behavior on Wednesday the 28th of September. The bomb went off Saturday evening.

Is it normal for cops to have 4-day weekends?


29 posted on 10/06/2005 12:35:37 PM PDT by DallasMike
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To: airborne

"I guess it only matters to us in fly over country."

LOL, it's like we're teleported back to some alternate universe between presidential elections, isn't it?


30 posted on 10/06/2005 12:36:22 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: amom; razorback-bert; TEXOKIE

PING


31 posted on 10/06/2005 12:37:41 PM PDT by Yellow Rose of Texas (WAR: 1/3 yes, 1/3 no, 1/3 undecided; So began the American Revolution)
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To: RegulatorCountry
Until people start dying in massive amounts. Then our wonderful government moves in, declares martial law, suspends habeas corpus, and finally "protects" us.
32 posted on 10/06/2005 12:39:12 PM PDT by airborne (My hero - my nephew! Sean is home! Thank you God!)
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To: DallasMike

"Is it normal for cops to have 4-day weekends?"

Police have days off, too. But, he would have been highly credible to any dispatcher had he just called it in, right then and there. If it was odd and disturbing enough to have taken note, and copied the tag number, it was odd and disturbing enough to call it in at that time. Day off be damned.

I was feeling hopeful that our guys were on top of it yesterday, and even had begun to believe that they had the little idiot under surveillance, but now I've got a sinking feeling again.


33 posted on 10/06/2005 12:41:24 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: DallasMike
Crosslinking:

-The University of Oklahoma Bomber- Link Roundup--

34 posted on 10/06/2005 12:45:58 PM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: airborne

"suspends habeas corpus"

I'm living in the only state that has never suspended the writ of habeas corpus, even during the Civil War. I'd imagine that that wouldn't be an easy thing to do, here at least.


35 posted on 10/06/2005 12:50:23 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: airborne
Until people start dying in massive amounts. Then our wonderful government moves in, declares martial law, suspends habeas corpus, and finally "protects" us.

Yup... every civilian becomes the enemy.

36 posted on 10/06/2005 12:58:44 PM PDT by johnny7 (ďNah, I ainít Jewish, I just donít dig on swine, thatís all.Ē)
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To: DallasMike

I appreciate the thread. It's easy to follow. Several comments:

Your recap implies "the ingedient" TATP is not common in the United States. In fact, the source document says the ingredients of TATP are common househould items. It's usage, however, is uncommon in the United States. I think that's a significant distinction.

That several people were questioned shouldn't be interpreted, absent more information, as meaning much of anything. My understanding is that the relationship between these people (other than the roomate) was that they lived in the same apartment complex. Given the roomate was Pakistani, it would only make sense these Muslims would have known Heinrich ("our friend Cheeba's weird roomate"). That doesn't mean they had any involvement.

Why would these guys have stuck around if they were involved in a plot with Heinrich? Whether he blew himself up or someone detonated him remotely, accomplices living in the same complex who knew him would likely have scattered after such an incident. Perhaps they figured it looked sufficiently like a not-so-old fashioned suicide that they weren't at risk. More likely, they weren't accomplices.


37 posted on 10/06/2005 1:09:40 PM PDT by hoyaloya
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To: hoyaloya

"our friend Cheeba's weird roomate"

That would hold up if it weren't for several reports of bomb making materials, ammonium nitrate and Jihadi literature in the dorm room. Don't forget, that was Cheeba's dorm room as well.


38 posted on 10/06/2005 1:14:56 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: airborne

it would only matter to the MSM if the bomber had been an anti-abortion activist. then this would be considered important.move along now. nothing to see here.


39 posted on 10/06/2005 1:22:16 PM PDT by Rakkasan1 (Peace de Resistance! Viva la Paper towels!)
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To: hoyaloya
I appreciate the thread. It's easy to follow.
Thanks, it wasn't meant to be a thread to end all threads but rather a simple thread, with links, to what we positively know about Hinrichs as of right now.

40 posted on 10/06/2005 1:23:37 PM PDT by DallasMike
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To: hoyaloya
It's usage, however, is uncommon in the United States. I think that's a significant distinction.

Thanks. That's a good distinction to make. I guess I was thinking that we don't have quite so many suicide bombers in the United States -- yet.

Here's a Wikipedia link to TATP. My first degree was in chemistry and I recall hearing about it and other explosives but nobody was dumb enough to try and make it. Being pyros by nature, we did make minor explosives -- like the ones used in the old poppers!


41 posted on 10/06/2005 1:30:22 PM PDT by DallasMike
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To: DallasMike

Norman Police Investigated Hinrichs
by Ryan Welton, Managing Editor

POSTED: 10:05 am CDT October 6, 2005
UPDATED: 3:02 pm CDT October 6, 2005

NORMAN, Okla. -- Norman police confirmed Thursday that they ran a routine investigation of a 21-year-old University of Oklahoma student who blew himself up on campus Saturday night.

At a 2 p.m. news conference, Norman Police Department spokesman J.D. Younger said an off-duty, plainclothes officer overheard a conversation Joel Henry Hinrichs III had with the proprietor of a Norman feed store last Thursday at 4 p.m. The conversation centered on a purchase of ammonium nitrate fertilizer.

"I think it's important to note that it's not a criminal activity to purchase ammonium nitrate fertilizer," Younger said.

However, he noted that the context of Hinrichs' conversation with a manager of Ellison Feed & Seed was suspicious. Younger indicated that the off-duty officer reported that Hinrichs asked about different types of fertilizer and the concentration of ammonium nitrate in each.

Ammonium nitrate was the primary ingredient in the bomb that killed 168 people in the explosion that brought down the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Builsing in Oklahoma City in 1995.

The officer, according to Younger, took a mental note of the conversation and its context, and then followed Hinrichs outside. The officer took down the student's license tag number, contacted Norman's police department dispatch operation, had Hinrichs checked for outstanding warrants -- but, alas, found nothing.

The officer continued his investigation Thursday night, but could only conclude that Hinrichs was an OU student and lived in university-subsidized housing. The officer did contact a Norman bomb squad technician; however, the plan at that time was for the off-duty officer to complete a written report for submission the following Monday.

Hinrichs died when a bomb he allegedly created exploded as he sat on a bench next to the George Lynn Cross Hall, about 100 yards from Oklahoma Memorial Stadium, where about 84,000 people were watching the Sooners play Kansas State in a college football game.

When asked whether or not the officer could have done something to prevent the explosion, Younger said the off-duty officer actually went "above and beyond" the call of duty to act as he did.

"I think we're fortunate to have an employee go that far," Younger said. "We don't know what would have happened if the officer hadn't been there."

If Hinrichs had not died Saturday night, the Norman officer -- according to Younger -- would have filed the written statement, which would have eventually been submitted to federal authorities. The lead investigative agency in the Hinrichs case is the FBI; however, Younger noted the Norman police department would help as needed and requested.

"I feel confident that we're doing what needs to be done," he said.

Younger had no other comments as to other aspects of the case.
Copyright 2005 by ChannelOklahoma.com. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.



42 posted on 10/06/2005 1:31:02 PM PDT by Nancie Drew
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To: Nancie Drew

"If Hinrichs had not died Saturday night, the Norman officer -- according to Younger -- would have filed the written statement, which would have eventually been submitted to federal authorities."

Note "would have filed." He didn't file a report. CYA time for sure. "Eventually submitted." Dawdling, more CYA.


43 posted on 10/06/2005 1:37:00 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: Rakkasan1
it would only matter to the MSM if the bomber had been an anti-abortion activist. then this would be considered important.move along now. nothing to see here.
Heh. Just imagine if Henrichs had attended church at Valley View Christian Church here in Dallas where Harriet Miers is a member. It would be open season on Christians in the mainstream media. It's interesting how the press is downplaying or ignoring any evidence concerning Henrichs' religion.

44 posted on 10/06/2005 1:45:05 PM PDT by DallasMike
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To: RegulatorCountry

Why the hell did this not make any major news outlets?

Why not at least Sports Center?


45 posted on 10/06/2005 1:49:49 PM PDT by richconklin (A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes. - Mark Twain)
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To: DallasMike

"It's interesting how the press is downplaying or ignoring any evidence concerning Henrichs' religion."

I assume he was an accolyte of Islam, myself. Is this what you mean? To what religion did he belong, if any, prior? It would have been a very weak association, in order for him to have turned as he did, so any prior religion would likely be immaterial.


46 posted on 10/06/2005 1:51:34 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: richconklin

"Why the hell did this not make any major news outlets?"

The primary theory here seems to be that coverage has been effectively squelched from on high, Homeland Security or above. Why? That's up in the air ... too much information might jeopardize ongoing investigations, it might cause a panic, it might cause economic problems at a somewhat precarious time for the country. It could be a case of denying "glory" and recognition to terrorist organizations, who seek such infamy. Nobody is completely certain.

It's not the first time terrorist activity has been denied for as long as it could plausibly be denied.


47 posted on 10/06/2005 1:55:22 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: DallasMike

It just proves that if you're a member of a cult (Islam) you can get a free ride in the media. I'm all for profiling when it comes to security. Although it can be difficult to look at someone and tell if they are islamic. Except for the bulging around the midsection with wires attached.


48 posted on 10/06/2005 1:57:42 PM PDT by rfreedom4u (Native Texan)
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To: DallasMike

as with most US college papers- they're living in a pre-9/11 world and have not a clue.


49 posted on 10/06/2005 2:21:45 PM PDT by Rakkasan1 (Peace de Resistance! Viva la Paper towels!)
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To: rfreedom4u

50 posted on 10/06/2005 2:30:02 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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