Evolution and intelligent design Life is a cup of tea

Economist ^ | 10/6/05 | Economist

[taxesareforever]

1. Why is is not wrong to have slaves? 2. How does the idea that is is not wrong to have slaves relate to your religious views?

1.In the U.S. it is wrong since it is against our Constitution. Why is it not wrong in other countries? If there laws allow it, that is what makes it right. 2. No one has been able to show me from the Bible where God says it is unlawful or lawful to have slaves. Therefore I can have my own opinion.

[CarolinaGuitarman]

"When did atheists and evolutionists stop believing in the theory of the evolution of the tooth fairy?

Answer: They haven't."

Does lying make you feel better about yourself? Will it bring you a better seat near God? Or is it just something you choose to do despite its immoral nature?

[taxesareforever]

One of the benefits of not being a literalist is that one can understand the underlying truth of the Bible and not have to twist one's mind into a pretzel in order to defend parts for which understanding is context based.

In other words, since you don't understand or believe it, no one should be quoting from it.

[CarolinaGuitarman]

"If the our government sanctioned slavery I would say it was wrong because it would be against our Constitution."

Too late, you have already said you don't think slavery is wrong.

""My position on slavery? I don't consider it is wrong to have slaves. "

And what if the Constitution was amended to include slavery? Would you have any kind of moral argument against it then?

"What is right or wrong for one country is not necessarily right or wrong for another country. Just ask the people living in other countries."

So you are a moral relativist?

[js1138]

Why does our constitution say it is wrong to have slaves? All the founders of the country were nominal Christians. Why was it OK then and wrong now?

[taxesareforever]

You are equating what the government allows, what is legal, with what is moral. According to this statist mentality, people can do anything they wish to each other if a majority says so. That is the essence of evil.

You are the one twisting and spinning. I did not say slavery was moral just because the government allows it. Abortion is not moral and the government allows it. Besides, abortion has nothing to do with the majority. It is a minority who support abortion.

[PatrickHenry]

... I frequently beat my staff.

Sometimes, it's difficult to maintain an adult demeanor when confronted by such opportunities.

[eleni121]

"For all I know he could be a dumb Darwinian posing as a Christian. Lots of factors involved and so little time and logic on your part."
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He quoted scripture to support his position, not Darwin.
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You honestly don't get it, do you? A dumb Darwinian can selectively use Biblical scripture as well. Anyone can post from the Holy Bible to undermine or support his arguments. If there's no understanding of the Bible it's all so useless and counterproductive.

This give and take with you is useless and counterproductive mainly because we have distinctly different world views.

[taxesareforever]

And what if the Constitution was amended to include slavery? Would you have any kind of moral argument against it then?

Like I said, the Bible doesn't support it nor does it condemn it, so who am I to say it is immoral.

[eleni121]

Are you THX1138's bio progeny?

[js1138]

THX1138 is someone else.

[eleni121]

What a coincidence---1138 I mean.

Could be a mutation of some sort.

[js1138]

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[js1138]

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[CarolinaGuitarman]

"A dumb Darwinian can selectively use Biblical scripture as well. Anyone can post from the Holy Bible to undermine or support his arguments. If there's no understanding of the Bible it's all so useless and counterproductive."

Talk to him, not me. He's the one quoting the Bible.

"This give and take with you is useless and counterproductive mainly because we have distinctly different world views. "

Agreed. I believe in reason and rationality, you believe in mysticism and subjectivism.

[CarolinaGuitarman]

"I did not say slavery was moral just because the government allows it."

Why DO you say slavery is moral then? You have already said you didn't think it was wrong.

"Abortion is not moral and the government allows it."

Why is it immoral and slavery isn't?

"Besides, abortion has nothing to do with the majority. It is a minority who support abortion."

No it isn't; but that's a different subject.

[CarolinaGuitarman]

"Like I said, the Bible doesn't support it nor does it condemn it, so who am I to say it is immoral."

Apparently you are a nonentity.

[eleni121]

I believe in reason and rationality
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Saying it about yourself doesn't make it so as your posts sadly prove.

It's for others to say it about you. Sadly there are too many who do. Then again with time...time is important with the evos - you'll come around.

[CarolinaGuitarman]

"Saying it about yourself doesn't make it so as your posts sadly prove.

It's for others to say it about you. Sadly there are too many who do. Then again with time...time is important with the evos - you'll come around."

Is that what passes as a creationist argument these days? What do you think about your fellow creationist's advocation of slavery?

[Coyoteman]

The posting has been removed. It exists in your memory...whatever that is.

Wrong. The exact text of the pulled post is in #603. I couldn't believe it so I cut and pasted it before it got pulled.